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Firespawn
Firespawn

spacetelescope.org/news/heic1806/
Dark matter denialists BTFO!!!!

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space.com/33850-weird-galaxy-is-mostly-dark-matter.html

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Scientists discover Galaxy without Dark Matter
Wait, how the fuck do they even know that when we don't even know what Dark Matter is supposed to be?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

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yikes...

JunkTop
JunkTop

We don't know what dark matter is but we can measure its effects.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Клёвый peвepc бpaтaн.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Give me one good reason why dark matter is not exactly like luminiferous aether (i.e. fake)

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Because its effect have been measured over and over. Attempts to detect the effect of aether failed every time. Read a book, retard.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Give me one good reason why Dark Energy isn't just Zero-Point Energy

takes2long
takes2long

There isn't enough energy in Zero-Point Energy.

idontknow
idontknow

Because the predicted gravitational effect of vacuum energy is much greater than the observed effect of dark energy.

Evilember
Evilember

Give me one good reason why Dark Matter isn't just the Aether reloaded?

SniperWish
SniperWish

dark matter is real because you touch yourself at night

whereismyname
whereismyname

youtu.be/_P1xKh_kZFU?t=599

farquit
farquit

I thought dark matter was auppose to explain how a galaxy can even stay together. This new galaxy does not challenge the idea at all so whats the autism about?

If there werent a force keeping it together, it wouldn't even be a blob. In fact it probably should have more dark matter than not.

Alternatively it could be a galaxy who's black hole had evaporated, thereby ejecting everything that has ever fallen into it. This seems suspect though, since it would have needed to be a small galaxy initially, as galactic black holes are predicted to last [math]1 × 10^100[/math] years, not really within the timescale of even the current age of the universe.

So what, is it more likely this is just an extremely young galaxy that does not have a noteable galactic center?

Or more likely its just fake nasa photoshop bullshit like all the other times it's always been because liars are fucking shit at keeping their stories straight.

StonedTime
StonedTime

I thought dark matter was auppose to explain how a galaxy can even stay together. This new galaxy does not challenge the idea at all so whats the autism about?
If there werent a force keeping it together, it wouldn't even be a blob. In fact it probably should have more dark matter than not.
Sorta.
You could look at this galaxy as even more evidence for Dark Matter as the galaxy hasn't congealed. It's lacking a lot of mass that most other galaxies have which means it is also lacking a lot of gravity. Because the force of gravity is much weaker than usual the galaxy hasn't pulled together, and is an example of what other galaxies would be like if there was no Dark Matter that was adding to their mass.

TechHater
TechHater

Dark Matter is just the label for the gravitational effects we can see in galaxies that are not covered by the amount of visible mass we can see. Just recently, like this last week, there have been announcements that a galaxy with almost no Dark Matter effects has been found, along with a galaxy that shows, like, 99% of it is dark matter. SO... the big point of this is... it seems on the surface that it is not missing mathematical term in our current physical equations. It may really be something that is physically present (or missing) in galaxies that we just haven't been able to detect with our instruments yet.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Both ends of the scale are being represented now. New mysteries, new clues!

a galaxy with almost no dark matter (march 28, 2018)
space.com/40119-ghostly-galaxy-almost-no-dark-matter.html

a galaxy whose gravity is almost 99.99% dark matter (august 26, 2016)
space.com/33850-weird-galaxy-is-mostly-dark-matter.html

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

This new galaxy does not challenge the idea at all so whats the autism about?
Why don't you read the fucking article before commenting, you retarded faggot?
Although counterintuitive, the existence of a galaxy without dark matter negates theories that try to explain the Universe without dark matter being a part of it [3]: The discovery of NGC 1052-DF2 demonstrates that dark matter is somehow separable from galaxies. This is only expected if dark matter is bound to ordinary matter through nothing but gravity.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

it seems on the surface that it is not missing mathematical term in our current physical equations. It may really be something that is physically present (or missing) in galaxies that we just haven't been able to detect with our instruments yet.
Precisely this.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

someone get mike mculloch some tissues he's going to be butthurt after this

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Our models and empirical observations have no relationship to each other
let's just make up numbers until they do

King_Martha
King_Martha

We'll there's nothing wrong with postulating theories user...

Methnerd
Methnerd

are you telling me there is a galaxy with three orders of magnitude more gravity than it should have by current models?

RavySnake
RavySnake

Only real scientists like me can see this is a real image, way too hard to fake trust me.

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DeathDog
DeathDog

This is really strange. Seems like the next thing to do would be to index galaxies by their ratio of normal matter to dark matter and start looking for correlations.

FastChef
FastChef

Is there a black hole at the "core" of this galaxy?

takes2long
takes2long

Of course.
A super massive one at that.

idontknow
idontknow

I mean that's what DM is, a fudge factor that's literally the difference between what we predict vs observations. It's entirely plausible that our observations are at fault, not the models.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

It's entirely plausible that our observations are at fault, not the models.
It's entirely plausible that our observations are at fault because we cannot observe some of the material yet.
And now we're back to dark matter.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Yes, pretty cool, eh?
Yours is an excellent idea!

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