I was going to give up coffee today but the a huge wave of loser feelings washed over me at my wagecuck office when I...

Narcotics speak with your lips.

You should add vodka or rum to your coffee that will help with the coffee abstinence.

Cause there's nothing to lose.

Sounds like a lot of wanking and sleeping I'll be losing actually

positive utility isn't a myth (remember to define your boundaries on a scale that makes sense for human life, not on a cosmic scale) and the death of god only matters on a institutional level not an individual level.

you are simply repeating depressive mottoes in order to excuse your laziness, which you are childishly attached to

grow up

>positive utility isn't a myth
>If you arbitrarily frame all your considerations in a narrow illusory perspective that might (but still doesn't) render this true

So this is the power of life affirmers...

>tfw quit drinking, weed, cigarettes, caffeine, women, work, porn
>only drink water, eat whole foods, exercise and read
>fasting
>meditation
>solitude
>simplicity
>tap into blue sky mindscapes of purity

join me on the higher plane, lads

unironic gj senpai

I drink coffee all day only because I'm bored. I don't get much kick from caffeine, and the office coffee tastes like hot garbage. But it is some sensory stimulation to keep me from just watching the clock all day.

I've done this without even trying, its called being severely depressed

>tfw quit drinking, weed, cigarettes, caffeine, women, work, porn

I don't believe you

>a human framing things on a human scale is arbitrary

Why not?

what album is this?
googling the image gives me photos of ironing boards

>a human framing things on a human scale is arbitrary

Of course it is, there's no such thing as human scale, its just a nice sounding way of saying stick your head in the sand and believe in fantasy.
As if even neanderthals could not see the sublime horror of the cosmos above their heads everynight

When you get depressed you live a healthy lifestyle?

If you count shutting yourself away in isolation, not eating or taking pleasure in anything as healthy

Maybe that's part of the problem

bro you're just making grandiose excuses for your failures

all of our measurements are based on their relation to the human body and the human situation. Of course there is such a thing as human scale.

getting all faggy about large numbers is a sign of weak character

Solitude can be very beneficial and fasting for controlled periods of time is mentally and physically good for you.

I never said I didn't take pleasure in anything.

Monkey bollocks, never mind large numbers, a few weeks after we're dead it will be as if we were never born at all whether you live a life as a NEET or go through this useless rigmarole. You'll be forgotten soon enough

>self help faggotry

try literature, m8

The Exploration - Summer Demo

This is patently untrue and a gross misrepresentation. You already know that though. You know how the cards lie, why people act the way they do, and what the ultimate outcomes could be. They treat you with scorn because you're a gadfly, a threat, and upjumpef many positions to a higher pay, cozy one. You also have the capability to litigate. They only hate you because you AREN'T pathetic, that's the irony of these posts.

how long did it take? and how? what was your motivation. I'm trying to quit all of the ones you listed too, but to no avail

>Perterson poster feels like a beta
checks out

Miss those guys :(

I don't know why I do this. Being ugly doewnt mean shit. Truly ugly people have terrible hygiene. Most people are average because thats what average means.

Your concept of beta is from a stupid image board full of bitter lonely self hating fucks who think you can figure out life without experiencing it. Change your shit sort yourself out or an hero. Either way get the fuck off my Veeky Forums with this faggotry

>who think you can figure out life without experiencing it.

lel what the fuck does experience even mean. Pure normie imagination

Are you me?

thanks mate

that's no reason not to live life as best you can while you're alive

also you're objectively wrong, all you have to do is raise children.

I wanted to be free from obligation.

Work is the worst in that sense, so that one I was most motivated to quit. Then I realised maintaining a romantic relationship was more of a job than anything else as well, so I decided to do without. I think I've been celibate for seven years now or so.

With addictions like cigarettes and coffee I realised that they too were just another job, a useless obligation to be fulfilled every day in order to stay functional. So I weaned myself off of those to be more free.

Weed and alcohol are fun at first but in the end also turn into just another job, a habit that you engage in without any real pleasure. So when I realised they were more of a negative contribution I started working on those as well.

Porn was the easiest of all since numbed, sleazy mindstate it puts you in is evident and clears up noticeably when you quit.

Ultimately it's not so much the vices themselves but the habits and being dependant on them. I'm not saying I'll never drink again or never have a cup of tea, but as soon as you start needing them in your daily routine it's time to let go again. And by letting go of them again and again you seem to exercise your general ability to detach, as if asceticism is a skill in itself that can be trained.

The goal is to be as independent as possible beyond the necessities of life, at least for me. It gives peace of mind and makes you more prepared for hardship.

>also you're objectively wrong, all you have to do is raise children.

lel yeah repeat the pointless cycle for your own futile narcissism all you do is delay the inevitable.
Just visit any retirement home in America to see what worth people see in their parents.

>Just visit any retirement home in America to see what worth americans see in their parents.
ftfy

You're too dumb even for Veeky Forums.

I see, thanks for the insight

>drink coffee, energy drinks, take caffeine pills
>feel nothing but jittery
How long do I have to take caffeine before I feel anything but a headache and jitters? If this is all you guys are doing and being blown away by it, a vicodin and an adderall would change your lives

Also turning the water as cold as possible for a few minutes at the end of your shower will make you feel like a million bucks.

I've done lots and lots of drugs and still have a healthy respect for caffiene. An energy drink won't do much but try doing a line of pure stuff. Similar to coke but makes you feel dirtier.

How can a grown man believe in this magic ritual bullshit. This is Pajeet tier

>america is everyone
>retirement homes represent how everyone treats their parents
>the point is how you are treated in old age rather than the quality of life of your children
and you're calling me a selfish narcissist? L M A O

if you're that depressed why haven't you killed yourself already
or do one better and go full genocidal maniac - do the world a favor. You're just a larper.

the fact is that to kill oneself is a tragic act of arrogance and cowardice.

life is fundamentally chaotic.
this means no matter how bad things get there is always the glimmer of hope
there is always the possibility of a better life
there is always the possibility of a rapid ascension into paradise beyond your wildest dreams

there is likewise always the possibility of a rapid descent into a deeper darker hell than you can even conceive of, and this is probably the greater possibility

but that is what it means to be a man
to risk it all on the toss of the dice
to bet it all again and again
to face the screaming infinite chaos and be moulded forever in its image

T H I S
H
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S

>cold water therapy
>superstition

Read more, user.

Its the other way around, killing yourself is the only real act of conviction and bravery. I'd have done it myself by now if I was a stronger man.
What you're telling yourself is laughable, you know full well God isn't going to jump down to Earth to get your dick wet and I see the potential pleasure of heaven itself as ultimately meaningless and futile.

Pretty much thrown the baby out with the bathwater in the case this isn't weak bait

Give up coffee, it's too delicious, takes too long to make, costs more money, etc., etc.; buy caffeine powder in bulk and just feed your addiction that way. Works for me at least. 250g got me thru a year or slightly more, costs less than 5 starbucks drinks probably, too.

>No u
No u

how do you maintain the necessities of life though? how do you get money for food, a place to live?

so you don't have a girlfriend, but do you have friendships? friendships are more of a job than a girlfriend, who should be your escape, your comfort. dating is probably what you're thinking of, which is sort of like making friends, which is a job for sure.

again, having money and a network of friends and most importantly a loyal partner in life seems like they would help a lot more in a situation of hardship than having none of those things.

Only if you consider drugs, sex and wage labour the 'baby'.

Welfare.

Most friendships have faded, but I care for my family, that's network enough for me.

>he thinks caffeine provides any energy to the addict

Im not that user but i go through something similar

I just get really tired and dont want to do anything and convincing myself anything is worthwhile to do is a struggle, become really isolated and dont want to stop the feeling of being depressed

Cyclical

>suicide
>tragic

In what city do you live where welfare provides sufficient, permanent income?