Al/ck/oholics Anonymous

we don't. I'll do anything to try to turn it off. Too much anything works.

i thought it was going well but i'm really struggling now

i just blocked my front door as a deterrent to leaving and buying alcohol

>tfw sobered up all week and went through hell with withdrawals to fly out and see my fiance today
>know I'm just going to fall back on the wagon once I come back

What's your fiancee's thoughts on your alcoholism?

You have no reason to be an al/ck/ie if you have a fiance

She hates it, but she's one of those people who are so loyal it's unreal. And she always tells me she's seen who I am without it and she'll stick by me.

Basically I constantly feel like a piece of shit. I'd probably never drink in my life again if we weren't LDR right now.

Long distance honestly sucks. But she moved back home for now to help take care of her mom who's going to chemo. I couldn't have asked for a better person and I don't deserve her.

>marriage
>long-distance relationship
>alcoholism
uhhhh

animeposters aren't known for their intellect.

I’ve been on the moderation train for a few weeks now.

I find that with red wine I can pace myself but I can’t with beer or liquor. I just get one or two bottles for the weekend now and sip slowly. Hope I can make it last like a proper normie.

Glassware matters as well I find, a fancy wine glass almost forces sips where a tumbler just makes you gulp.

does "she" know you're an anime fag?

>fiance
>thinks hes al/ck/

Lel.

why are y'all like this? the fellow clearly is transparent and communicating with his partner about their relationship. not saying it's a great place to be but c'mon guys.

4 day binge 2 day recovery repeat infinitely.

as soon as the sweating stops and have had about 12hrs sleep i make my bed, shower and get more booze.
broke my fucking leg last month just getting up to take a piss.
i live in a share house and interact with no one. i sleep at 6 or 7am and wake around 5pm, go shop or whatever till about 8 and wait till around 11pm to have 'lunch' then 'dinner' about 4am all the while begging god not to run into anyone lest i have to force a smile or a conversation.
incase they didn't think i was weird before i don't want to know what they think after them hearing me scream, gasp, sob and moan in the middle of the night after falling in my room.

You're depressed. Alcohol doesn't cure depression, it worsen it. Antidepressant and/or seeing a doc are a better solution (not long term, you use them to feel good enough to get yourself in a situation where you won't be depressed.)
PAWS are a bitch and possibly one of the causes of your depression. They take way longer than a week to go away, you're at the worse of them after a week sober.

They want it to be le secret incel drinking club

God that movie was so right about addiction.

you have top go back

The first 2 days were probably the worst for me. Just because you know how easy it is to go, ahhh I'll try just have one more bottle and start from there. Holding off on buying that bottle when walking home from work was the challenge.
So I just browsed Veeky Forums, looked over the alck threads and saw people that were at 2 weeks, 30 days, 2 months etc abd thought fuck it, if they've done it so will I.
Since then to avoid the boredom I've been cooking healthy dishes that I know take a long time and tried to focus on improving cutting skills and knife handling.
Listened to podcasts, played alot more video games.
Started learning the guitar again.
17 days without a drink now and dont feel like I need it at all, lost a good bit of weight couple with eating healthy aswell.

Just as long as you get the initial "fuck this" mentality passed and nail down some form of hobby, it helps a tonne.

Really good book too, but he types out the Scottish dialect a lot of the time and that takes some getting used to.

I met a heroin addict described her addiction in food terms that I found helpful. Whether or not to get high is a "choice" in the same way that a starving person could eat a candy bar by choice. Sure, you don't have to eat it, nobody is forcing you, but it's much easier for someone who isn't hungry to not eat a candy bar. Addicts have fucked their dopamine and glutamate pathways to the extent that their brains think they are starving if they don't get their drug

Sober life blows but it's probably better than a dirt nap

i dont wana read the word "incel" one more GOD DAMN time

either they're drunk or it's gatekeeping, ignore it

normies need to be weeded out and forced back to lurking for a few years. white knights like you need to go back to r/incel

I started a new job and they didn't give me nearly enough training before throwing me out to the wolves, so every day is stress as I try to figure shit out on my own and not fuck up too much. The worst part, though, is that the job involves a stupid-early shift so I'm home by noon, stressed, and desperately trying not to just fucking dive into a bottle for lunch. I'm managing to hold out until dinner so far but it's getting harder.

>he types out the Scottish dialect a lot of the time and that takes some getting used to
that's alright I follow Limmy on twitter

r/incel got banned last i heard

This isn't /r9k/. Veeky Forums is a board for normies.
You know the way out, knight.

al/ck/ has always been /r9k/ tier you idiot. This is a place for the lowest of the low. You won't find positive/happy people here. You really need to go back seeing as you have no understanding of these threads

>i was here since 2012, I know Veeky Forums culture i'll tell you hwaht!

out the door newfag

I dont think I read Trainspotting, but I read a few other books of his. You are right about how he types, and I learned to appreciate it.

Being sober sucks for at least a month. I have gone weeks sober this year, multiple times, and feel completely flatlined. Theres no fucking reward for being sober.

These threads have nothing to do with everything else that is Veeky Forums, newfag. The mods only allow it because just like what happens when you get rid of /pol/, the people in the containment threads/boards pollute all the other boards. If you have lurked these threads for even a week you would know that the vast majority of people here despise women. This isn't the place for talking about having a fiance/wife unless you want to be harassed by a bunch of bitter drunks

But that's wrong you piece of shit. Women post in this thread too, and any time they even hint toward their gender they are just treated like any of the other bitter drunks in this thread. If you have lurked these threads for even a month you would know that. The reason this thread exists here is because alcohol is food, and alcoholics fall under the category. You can't just remove the thread without solid proof that it is completely off topic, which it never is. The vast majority of people in this thread talk about alcohol, which is more than enough to qualify it.

Now you're just blatantly lying you retarded incel. Go in the archives and link one time a woman posted saying she was a woman in one of these threads and not being ignored or told to show their tits/pussy. I'll be waiting.

I am not him. I am a completely different person. had one, and several of the ones before had some.

You confuse whores with regular girls, and you jump on the bandwagon of women hating because you're too retarded to think for yourself.

>linking me a thread with 314 replies
It's on you to prove it. Link a post from that thread. And all women are whores. There is no difference. I say this having 2 ex wives. Part of the reason I'm an al/ck/ie

user, you have two ex wives because you are a lazy retard. I bet they were the ones who asked for the divorces.

Yeah, after a while you fall into the rhythm and it's fine, but I imagine a lot of people gave up on the book because of it and that really is a shame.

I think the "show your tits" retards are just a very few vocal idiots. Possibly just the trolls from /pol/ who have convinced themselves that shitting up the cooking board counts as political activism.

yet if someone took an MRI of your clitoris while showing you gay male porn you would still get turned on, just like every other "lesbian" on the planet. The vast, vast majority of women want to be dominated by a big strong man, regardless of what they say. Because they evolved for thousands of years to expect to be raped, pillaged and taken as war prizes
Just like I said you dumb roastie. Second post she wrote, this was the response. Women are hated here. Accept it, and then go back

You know, I have a feeling you are that poster. A single bitter idiot. Glance at the replies to that post you just linked. No one defended him, and he was considered a retard.

Learn how to format your posts, by the way. This isn't Reddit. Quotes don't just magically appear.

First wife was my highschool sweetheart who cheated on me despite her working at Kohls for minimum wage while I was getting my welding certification to teach at the local tech school. For no other reason than "she wasn't thinking and it meant nothing!" Second serious woman in my life I met at age 29. Married her at 31. Despite me owning a fairly nice ranch house and 9 acres of land on top of bringing in almost a $90,000 salary and spoiling her, she cheated with an old ex. They literally cannot help themselves. They could be married to a billionaire celeb and they would still cheat. It's insane

By white knight redditors. hence the name of the thread, you fucking moron

>For no other reason than "she wasn't thinking and it meant nothing!"
That's the "reason" she told you, sure. But use your brain and find the real reason. Was she not getting enough attention from you (likely if you were both working AND taking your tech classes)? Were you not taking care of her sexual needs?

Ditto for your 2nd wife. What was it that she was getting from the man she cheated with that she wasn't getting from you?

>>They literally cannot help themselves
Keep telling yourself that.

They both sound like the exact same type of woman, which is probably why the exact same thing happened. Don't date airheads and obvious whores. Don't marry the girls you probably only got with for sex.

You're rather bad at this whole replying thing. You could have just quoted both posts.

I knew them both for years before I married them. They both changed literally within a month of me marrying them. I guess women just drop the respectable person act when they know they have you and revert back to whores.

If you actually knew them, it would have been obvious. All it really takes is a quick glance at how they behave in social situations, unless you're literally autistic. Actually, strike that. I am a diagnosed aspie and even I would be able to pick up on that shit. You're literally dumber than an aspie.

Easy to say that when you're probably a KHV. They were both reserved and didn't party. I'm not stupid. I know red flags. I would never date a woman with a large group of friends/goes to parties/smokes/dumb tattoos/sketchy family. You should know, even if you're a billionaire and the most famous person on earth, your wife will still cheat on you. It's just what women do.

>I'm not stupid.
Says the guy lumping all women into the "whores" category.

>I saw an incel once and robots twice, it means they have taken over
No.

>I'm a failure at life, but it's because all the women are whores
Tell that to your mommy.

>Women aren't prostitutes because you can't buy fidelity, it means they're whores.
Are you legit retarded?

>If you discard people who don't agree with me on the base that they don't agree with me, everybody (the aforementioned incel and 2 robots) agree with me
Technically, you're right. Congratulation, you're winner !
Now take your price and fuck off.

Take a good look around you, retard. There are plenty of people with happy marriages and relationships. If something is wrong in the relationships you have been in, then the problem is either you or the other person.

To generalize all women is the same as generalizing all men. Are robots the same as Chad? Is a Christian the same as a Muslim? You could draw comparisons until your fingers bled, but in the end there are distinct differences and areas where things branch off too much for them all to be the same.

Try your hand at dating different types of women, and maybe changing yourself if all else fails.

Cool, you're an actual retard. Good to know.
>I'm a failure at life, but it's because all the women are whores
I'm an alcoholic with 2 ex wives, but I'm not a failure. My earnings put me in the 1%. I've learned by trial and error that all women are whores, so I won't be wasting any more time and energy on them. I'm focused on improving myself. I'm set to retire by age 43. Life is good. I just need to cut down on my drinking now

it's not a word, it's made up baby talk

Almost a 70% divorce rate in America. Yeah that's totally healthy and normal and a great basis for your argument.

>I've learned by trial and error that all women are whores
No, you've learned that two of them were. You sure as fuck haven't learned statistics.

>> I'm focused on improving myself.
I find that difficult to reconcile with your constant willful ignorance on the subject of "all women are whores".

I've married 2, but I have plenty of people I know who have gone through the same. I'm the son of a whore. Mom had me at 15. My grandma constantly talked shit about my vietnam vet grandpa who took care of her, so she was probably a cheating whore. Aunt cheated on my uncle multiple times. First wife's mom had 3 husbands and was a massive golddigger. Only found out about that when we were getting our divorce. Pretty much everyone I work with has been cheated on or know a life ruined by a women who couldn't keep their legs shut. I would say that my basis for my statements are founded.

40 to 50 percent, actually. Try actually fact checking, you fucking retard. There are multiple reasons for a divorce, too. Not just "oh, the woman probably cheated". Men cheat, women cheat, people fall out of love, and there are even situations where marriage isn't a good idea and people regret it.

>The National Health and Social Life Survey found that 4% of married men, 16% of cohabiting men, and 37% of dating men engaged in acts of sexual infidelity compared to 1% of married women, 8% of cohabiting women, and 17% of women in dating relationships.

There's a relevant statistic for you.

Your social circle really suck dude. I'm sorry you don't know any decent human.

The average rate for a divorce is over 50%. For subsequent marriages it jumps up to around 70%. And believe it or not, the fact is that the majority of marriages end because of a woman cheating.

I'm not friends with non-decent people. They are all hard working and respectable. Sadly these are who women treat the worst. At least until they hit 40 and the makeup can't hide the wrinkles anymore and they have gone nowhere in life and desperately try to find one of these hard working men to take care of them.

apa.org/topics/divorce/
divorce.com/worldwide-divorce-statistics/
divorcestatistics.info/latest-infidelity-statistics-of-usa.html

You're a fucking idiot. The divorce rate in America is 53%, as the highest out of all the sources I have checked. Men cheat more than women, infidelity is the number 1 cause for divorce but definitely not the only cause, and your perceived reality is not the objective reality.

You are statistically incorrect, and any argument to the contrary just goes to show how much of a dipshit you are.

Blacks commit 91% of all violent crime in America. 1/9 will end up in prison for a violent crime. Usually domestic. I bet you would defend niggers just like how you defend whores. I bet you also want open borders and that you voted for Hillary. Am I correct?

You are incorrect, because the two issues are separate. Let me guess, you oppose everything the alt right opposes and agree with everything the alt right agrees with regardless of your true beliefs. Correct?

Nope, I'm not anything. I want nothing to do with politics and have never voted. I do know that the west is becoming a degenerate shithole and that a lot of big changes need to happen. My views are fairly libertarian (not to be confused with being a liberal or on the left.) There has never been a presidential runner fit for my vote yet.

I can understand your frustrations
No one likes to see something they hate
Could it be it's you with the problem tho?
Every thread will you hide posts with incel in?
Learn to deal with it mate

There are never any good answers during the presidential elections. A country is only as bad as those who lead it.

> My views are fairly libertarian (not to be confused with being a liberal or on the left.)
Holy shit get a load of the 12 year old

So wI'm in a new country and I drank moderation for 8 weeks. Now I'm fucked and I wanna go ato a bar to buy som,e cigs and socialize, but I'm amfraid people hree are judgmental cunts, because this is the rochest country in the world/

Anybofy wanna chat?

>I do know that the west is becoming a degenerate shithole and that a lot of big changes need to happen.
I found the solution for you : convert to Islam and buy a wife in some Arabic country.
You can beat her into faithfulness, it's more effective than buying her gifts.
And don't forget : if you join Isis, you can be part of the big change! And have a free wife!

Where's that from again? I'm curious about where last French presidential candidates are.

Treat yourself a bit better.

Congrats on your efforts.

You're afraid they'll be judgmental because you aren't rich, and they are? Honestly, if you're that self-conscious, going to a bar by yourself probably won't be fun.

Going to a bar alone isn't fun unless you're confident/don't give a fuck about what others think. Actually, not that fun with friends if you're not confident/etc.

It's not just about the money, I just feel like a stupid autistic drunk alcoholic. Funny thing is I can usually pretend my way into a normal human usually. People even seem to like me, guess because I know so many random trivia. Like talking about Black Metal with Norwegians and shit like that.

Anyways, I guess, I'm just gonna go there for a cig, I watched a half episode of Sopranos and I;, felling prettyy good

>this is the rochest country in the world
Rich people aren't necessarily judgemental arseholes. Some are though.

It's amazing how alcoholism can turn you into such an amazing liar. I was always a terrible liar and it was really obvious when I was lying. Now, my friends and family all believe I'm one year sober when really I lasted 4.5 months and went back to drinking, just hid it way better. Feels shitty when they're all so happy for me, and I lie and say I'm doing amazing

>watched The Sopranos
nice, you can't be too much of a retard if you're enjoying some Sopranos.

I just bought a Fosters oil can of Ale. What should I expect?

>Where'd the fucking time go?
Black out time.

Working 70+ hrs is the only way I can stay sober. One job was never enough too much idle time, boredom which lead me to drink. I’m saving so much fucking money feels good.

whatever floats your boat, nugguh.

you're a woman,are you?

>2017
>not being female
I shiggy diggy don't.

oh god. how feminine is your penile apparatus?

Woo. It's my 1 month sober day. Over 10 years of constant drinking finally ended. It was way easier than I thought.* Only thing is I'm still getting moderate withdrawal type headaches. I thought they would go away by now but no...

* I'm cheating though. I told my parents and moved back home for awile. Super easy to stay sober for now. I'll probably relapse as soon as I move back out and am sitting alone and bored in my own place...

>animeposters

You do realize that libertarian is what the founding fathers were, right? Not this modern age radical left calling themselves libertarian. Libertarian is all about freedom. It's the most American thing you can be

>reddit transplant

I prefer Marquis de Sade's libertinism anyway.
All about freedom too.

there's no real exact timeline for that. it depends on your lifestyle changes that occur during sobriety. the more extreme that the changes are, the sooner you can become 'normal' (sort of anyway, depends on how long you've been an addict and a lot of other factors). it also depends on if you've been normally depressed in the first place. did you already have chronic depression before your drinking began?

Haven't had a drink in 2 weeks (not because I have a problem, but my mom does and I'm visiting her so don't want to trigger her / give her an excuse).

Don't feel any different EXCEPT I'm having dreams every night, something I thought I just grew out of years ago. Weird. Not sure I like it.

Its amazing but so shameful