How do I deal with having a higher IQ than 99.9 percent of people, Veeky Forums?

So, how does it feel to be clever? Where do you notice any difference ?

Good, they're a waste of time and energy as far as I can tell.

So go live your life like an hermit.

No that doesn't sound right.

What a terrible analogy. We are all fucking apes. Smart people are flexible, adjust themselves in every ambient.

Smart people shouldn't need to make themselves worse in order to 'adapt'. If they are smart, they will find another way around it.

So hunt down people with the same interests.
Or stay shitposting here.

I read in between the lines of every interaction and find it easy to manoeuvre myself into a better position, though I do not do this since I find it inauthentic

I do, sometimes, but I don't think this is a good thing

Adjusting yourself is to allow yourself to be corrupted
I am not corrupted and refuse to bend for anything

There is no other way around it
>For nonconformity the world whips you with its displeasure

Are you fucking retarded user? In this case it is a perfect analogy, OP is clearly superior to his competitors, he's conquered all of his peers, why would he need to stoop to their level just to delight in their plebeian tastes?

A Homo Sapien wouldn't adapt to the life of a chimpanzee, would it?

Well, in society is very difficult to be yourself (assuming you are intellectually superior than anyone) and get the results.
I think the easier way to get what you want from stupid people is to pretend you are just like a normal idiot person like them.
Intimidating people with knowledge frightens and bores them.

Just build AI friends

Do you need something from a chimapnzee? Then it's not necessary.

No, I find it easy to be myself. I am only myself, I can only be myself.
My issue is: I am not willing to cave, or corrupt myself as other plebs do.
Other smart plebs probably pretend, dumb themselves down... this is something I have no intention of doing and cannot do even if I try.

See:

I don't understand what user needs from the plebeians, I suppose if he stooped to their level to take advantage of them for his own personal benefit it would make sense.

It's not that I want to call you out for being a pretentious douchebag, it's just that someone who loves himself is often blind to his own shortcomings. There's no reason to fake humility, but this self-aggrandization is not conductive to personal reflection.

Your incapacity to bond with people in a meaningful way has likely little to do with your so-called superior intelligence. Speaking from personal experience, as someone "off the grid", authenticity and integrity of character are extremely useful traits to attract interesting characters to your life, granted that you yourself are interesting.

You should also cultivate traits like trust and charisma that allows people to open up to you – I've met many people who are appear to be average, but are strange as fuck when you get to know them. It is most likely a mixture of the social stigma of standing out and the introverted nature of weird types.

On a final note, it is difficult to understand what you mean by "smart", as there is a great variety of fields that require different forms of intelligence. IQ tests are mathematically biased, primarily testing your ability to think in structures and patterns. It has little to do with your ability to write an epic poem that captivates people for centuries, to create music that sings to the innermost chambers of the soul or spinning graceful tales that cracks people up with laughter

I've noticed that drinking helps

So the only option is to ignore (or treat with disdain) every fucking people which is not near from your intellect.

>every fucking people

No, that is wrong on all levels

SeeI am beyond "pretentious", this means nothing to me. When you are on the edge, raw emotion and energy, everything you do appears pretentious.
Again, I do not want to manipulate people, or trick them in any way. I am open and honest (probably too much), and so you see my problem.

>I've met many people who are appear to be average, but are strange as fuck when you get to know them
I think everyone has some hidden deviation from the mythical norm. You need prolonged contact with people to realize no one is quite normal. Even the most boring individual is weird as fuck in another context.

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Should be "every fucking person".

oh, yes. thanks for correcting me.
i'm not a native speaker and i'm typing fast while i'm listening to music and watching a soccer game on tv.

I did read that post and my points still stand – in particular, I wish to highlight once again that there are different forms of intelligence and as said, people are stranger than you think.

I do have a couple of considerations in regards to your situation, but let me ask you this: what do you consider to be the nature of friendship?

someone screenshot OP's posts and post them to /r/iamverysmart or something

I find no value in friendship. I do not need, nor want it.

Go for it, but I really am

This guy is actually a redditor
reddit.com/r/iamverysmart/comments/6mb0jo/lit_is_lit_fam/

>guy thinks he's special because for being a manipulative asshole
doesn't realize this is normal and undesired

If it was exclusively surrounded by chimpanzees all its life it would

>being this much of a faggot

That's what wrong with society unfortunately, smart friend. You have to conform in any possible way to really fit in, not breaking the law is not enough. But rejoice: society is fucking overrated anyway.

No, read the thread. I specifically stated I am not manipulative since it's wrong.
If you actually read, you would have seen it.
See

no that's just even more pathetic.
instead you are paralyzed in that kind of narcissistic thought cycle.
like i said, it's undesirable.
a smart person manipulates others with respect.

>I find no value in friendship. I do not need, nor want it.

What, then, is your problem?

I am not narcissistic at all.
>pathetic
Why is choosing not to manipulate for personal gain a bad thing?

...That I don't need it, nor want it

It's a waste of potential. You're sitting around using your intelligence to spite the world when in reality all you do is spite yourself.
It's actually very dumb.

>...That I don't need it, nor want it

Can you live a happy life without friendship?

What is? You aren't making very much sense

I don't know. How can anyone know?

>doesn't understand basic logic
i guess you must be dumb.
in fact, i know you are.

Okay, if you believe so. Though you explained nothing, and went off on a tangent about something unrelated. Are you confused?

>unable to make abstract associations
literally retarded.
you're worrying me.

You still haven't cleared anything up. Are you here for discussion, or just to bullshit?

Okay I'll spell it out.
You're dumb because:
A) You needed to make this thread
B) You claim to be self-aware and yet continue to actively engage in a self-destructive process you're also aware of
C) You blame others for your own faults
D) I had to explain this

>I don't know. How can anyone know?

Which leads me back to my first post;

>..someone who loves himself is often blind to his own shortcomings. There's no reason to fake humility, but this self-aggrandization is not conductive to personal reflection.

Your problem, then, is self-knowledge. You are obviously conflicted and do not seem to understand your nature. You have here a kairotic moment to benefit from Plato.

>You needed to make this thread
I didn't need to, but I wanted to.
>You claim to be self aware and yet continue to actively engage in self destructive
How so? What do I engage in? You are simply making stuff up now, or are confused.
>You blame others
Again, how so? Where and when have I done this?

I believe you are confused

No, I disagree.
>Do not seem to understand your nature
Does anyone? Really? I don't believe so. How could they?

>How?

Ask Socrates

IQ is the intelligent failure's last source of pride.

again, pathetic evasions you chalk up to your "intelligence" aka an elaborate delusion.

I can't, he's dead

I disagree because it's obviously not true
Do you think genius' writers, artists, philosophers, etc, didn't know they were different to their peers, honestly?

You still didn't clear anything up. You're just name calling. I'm trying to have discussion here

I'm sure they had knowledge they were different, but they certainly didn't think that made them any inherently more valuable.

Ability is culpable if never cultivated. For every great there's 100 who burned out in lack of will, and reason. Being a narcissistic fuck about your intelligence is the gateway to self-destruction.

OP, other people are useful and interesting if only you knew how to properly socialize and compartmentalize your interactions. Read a book or two about interpersonal communication. Go figure out that it's a chess game and every action, verbal or nonverbal, has an immediate reaction and a long term context to your relationship with that person. Smart creative people feed off of others for inspiration and entertainment. Even Sherlock Holmes had a friend and used his intelligence to interact with other people and bend them to his will. This isn't even an ethically bad thing to do in most situations. People only interact with others for a handful of reasons and a handful of ways. There is something wrong with you you can not constructively look within yourself to see that this is how society works and in order to accomplish any goal you set for yourself you must play to those around you. It's quite fun once the magic of socializing is taken away. There are applicable communication theories for most any interaction. Why not apply your brilliance to something you despise so you can get over yourself?

> it's a chess game and every action, verbal or nonverbal, has an immediate reaction and a long term context to your relationship with that person. Smart creative people feed off of others for inspiration and entertainment. Even Sherlock Holmes had a friend and used his intelligence to interact with other people and bend them to his will
You know he's not a real person, right?

Again, you misunderstood my post and the point of this thread. I don't have any issue with socialising, If anything, I find it easy.

Agree with second part, but there is no way Plato didn't KNOW he was more valuable than some random nobody. He knew!

This is the oldest kind of baits in blue boards, I don't know why the fuck some people still fall for it. It's just some lonely neet looking to spark up a conversation but have no real interest of the topic of the board they're in.

Those with high IQs realize that it is their duty to enact the policies of the Authoritarian Right. It is the only logical conclusion of principled intellectual exclucivity.

Guess we got a genius over here huh

Manufacture a virus that only kills baby boomers very, very quickly.

These threads have always existed on user forums. It is basically the perfect troll thread because every person on this board has thought, in their teens, that they were too smart and couldnt relate to people. Now that they know they were wrong and being stupid, they boil with rage at seeing a reflection of their personal failings, which they still harbor a piece of today deep in their mind whenever they fail to mingle successfully with people

No, I just really am a genius

just clean your room lol

Leave your basement
The feeling will pass quickly

It was an example of a character for you to relate with because you obviously can't relate with anyone of a normal stature.

Socializing isn't easy if you don't enjoy the control and you don't like the thrill of the hunt. Whats the fucking point if you hate it but think it's easy? You got a lot of introspection to do brah.

Underrated post.

Dunning Kruger

>>If you were really smart, you could, at least, pretend to be like a normal person
Actually, you can't.

Try to write something in a way someone with less than 85IQ would write it. Just a paragraph or two. You'll do fine at the start, but in a few sentences, you'll see that something betrays you as too intelligent. It just doesn't work, your brain can't function like that.

Btw, a 30-40IQ difference is more than enough for two people to operate on entirely different levels, and can't properly understand each other. If you have average IQ, imagine trying to talk to a chimpanzee and to adapt to their society, live by their customs, somehow prosper in it... they'd tear you to fucking shreds.

>I assume you're a member of Mensa, speak to people on Mensa chatrooms or local meetups.
They're really terrible nowadays, 10 years ago it was mostly normalfags prowling for nerd pussy, but now it's been taken over by feminists/SJWs.

Great post user, and great frogs too.

The guy who argued against OP argued his point very well btw.

Sarcasm or not, sincere or not. Some valuable advice.

I'm a pretty smart bloke, would never admit so non anonymously. Grew up in a very working class town, shit economy, etc, etc. To cut to the chase my friends are all average, or just below average intelligence, some with a high degree of mechanical aptitude, some without. I'm not friends with them because of how smart they are or arent. I'm friends with them because we share similar values, ideas, hobbies and enjoy each others companionship. Literature, reading, writing I explore by myself. I drink beers, build stuff, go fishing, talk about social stuff, news and current affairs with them and I wouldnt have it another other way

The answer, unironically, is to read books. Sure, you might not meet many people worth talking to but you will find people worth reading, even if you have a genius IQ.

Bait or not, I know there's people that think like this out there.

If you can't explain a complex subject simply then you need to study it more.

>If you can't explain a complex subject simply then you need to study it more.
Ok, explain the concept of "promise" to a chimpanzee.

Did you know that they can't even explain concepts like that to Africans?

>unironically being a reddit user

kys

me too

Have you ever considered that dumbing himself down is something that he would consider degrading and normally "not worth" the gain he would get from befriending normal people? I don't mean dumbing himself down in the sense that he never references Ulysses in conversation, but rather dumbing down everything, like his behavior and his interests, simply to get along. He very well may be "capable" of making friends with normal people, but may consider the behavior he would have to adopt a form of debasement. Remember, he said he can "only be himself", and if being himself (assuming he's otherwise well-adjusted, just erudite) makes him an outcast, then we're stuck in a quandary. How do we promote the best possible experience without debasing ourselves?

Consider for a moment that it not his appeal to other people that is the problem, but the appeal of other people to him. Especially if you're a moralistic type, it's a tough proposition to find things in common with other people, given the multitude of hedonistic ways people have been encouraged to destroy themselves and their potential. Unless you can offer a compromise of how to make the best out of our interactions with other people, then I think this conversation will just get derailed with the standard "stop being pretentious" response, which is sometimes applicable to narcissists, but not generally applicable to upstanding people. Is having standards "pretentious"? I hope not.

He can still be intelligent and misguided for all we know. A lot of us became jaded during formative experiences. Let's talk about how to unleash our potential instead of bashing each other over perceived or real behavioral pathologies. We wouldn't be making these threads on an anonymous forum if we didn't want to improve ourselves, even if we do provide some pushback at first.

(don't be intimidating)
(OP - easy to be myself, don't want to not be myself)
(be self-aware)
(OP - I don't want to manipulate others)
(don't be a narcissist, manipulate others respectfully)
(compartmentalize interactions, learn "the social game", apply brilliance)
(pretending to be dumb is a losing proposition with sufficient intelligence)
(an example of good balance, method unknown)

Now, what if we're dealing with a person with either low self-esteem or high self-awareness, who also happens to have high moral standards, who doesn't know how he SHOULD interact with other people. He admits that he can manipulate well, but doubts whether that is in good character, or whether that truly can cover up the degenerate way the world is.

Do you know what the only solution I'm seeing to all of this? Being a shining exemplar who can bring the best out of people they didn't even know they had. And that's incredibly difficult for anybody, but a commendable goal to strive for. Is anybody else seeing where I'm going with this? Why not have a more positive and sophisticated thread for once?

Fuck off icycalm

Why don't you troll people if you're so smart?

Because he finds it miserable because he doesn't like being a cunt when it isn't necessary.

>I can't, he's dead
Lmao, 8/10

Where did you all get the idea that dumb people don't like clever people? Just be witty and amicable instead of dry and technical.

Also, can someone give an example of a social interaction that someone else might do but would be too manipulative for OP? We all seem to have taken this for granted, and I'm sure there's ethics of social interactions but really in my daily experience it's very easy not to run afoul of them.

eh

John von Neumann could converse with small children like they were equals. You aren't as bright as you think you are if you can't figure out how to relate to huemans.

Ok, but people sometimes point to that to ask if everyone was a child to John von Neumann. And I think there's a bit somewhere about not living among the Kindermenschen.

you're not as smart as you are arrogant

Babies are easier to talk to than degenerate adults. If you want to have any camraderie with your average hedonistic pleb, you need to be willing to debase yourself aesthetically, intellectually, and morally. Manipulation is the only option because engaging at their natural level, without steering them in a certain direction, is a cancerous exercise.

>Ok, but people sometimes point to that to ask if everyone was a child to John von Neumann

that doesn't refute my point at all. if anything it reinforces it

What if you find it degrading, undignified, and immoral to treat adults as children? If this were a subject about dating, and somebody claimed to have solved all relationship issues by treating/disciplining their girlfriend or wife like a teenaged daughter, then this board would up in arms and crying out "/pol/ get out."

as a left-wing person i actually think that's somewhat acceptable in practice, but maybe not in writing. Women don't really grow up in some ways, it's in their wiring, helps them relate to children. It's something most men know but out of respect for their differences, really dont find it necessary to mention.

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