Smutty YA Romance Novels

I want to write a novel, and it seems like the only thing that sells are YA romance novels aimed toward teen girls.

I'd be willing to write that. It would be easy, really.

What I'm really wondering is, how smutty can you get without losing the YA tag? My novel would work much better with a healthy dosage of detailed lust, and a few graphic sex scenes between the main lovebirds. Can you get away with this in 2017? Otherwise I'll have to add more plot elements, and honestly I just wanna shovel something out the door for the experience of it.

Pic mostly unrelated.

Yes you can write the YA novel bridging the gap between the fault in our stars and 50 shades of grey

>that picture
yeah, that's about the time I stopped sitting on office chairs.

Eh. don't write about his quivering manroot and her moaning lusthole and you should be fine, I think.

I didn't read those, so could you be a little more descriptive?

Do you think graphic sex scenes are fine? Where do you draw the line? Is "He entered me" too far? Not far enough? I want to push the line but my fall over it.

>that photo
Why would anyone ever do this

>seems like the only thing that sells are YA romance novels aimed toward teen girls.

Cite sales figures and sources.

>I'd be willing to write that. It would be easy, really.

Really? So you can get into the head of a ditzy teen and write something that appeals to them that is also completely sincere?

>Really? So you can get into the head of a ditzy teen and write something that appeals to them
Yeah.

>that is also completely sincere
Unnecessary.

"He entered me" sounds about right.

>Unnecessary.

Yeah? Let me clue you in, there reason twilight and fifty shades of grey and all that bullshit became popular wasn't because it was written by some jaded mediocre writer who figured he could write this kind of stuff and make a ton of dough. They were written by genuinly stupid people who were bad writers, but at the same time they completely believed in what they were writing, and had a genuine passion for it that translates to the reader.

If you think you can reproduce that, go ahead and try. If that were the case, don't you think pretty much every writer out there would have their own shitty ya blockbuster?

I imagine detailed sex scenes like that would mean the book is no longer for YA. That's more for adult girks.

Meeh. Why again? Just use a lot of obvious metaphors. Don't use moist or dripping, or obvious entering. I've read a couple YA where somebody has sex, and one that was entirely about masturbation (there were crazy fallen angels tricking people into killing people who "sinned". Basically magical radio preachers) So it's not like the topic is off limits. Just don't make it obviously porn and you should be fine.

Any advice how I can optimize my smut without taking it too far? I'm thinking about the boy being really obsessive over little things like the girl's hair and eyes and ass and just talking about how she drives him mad.

And yeah I'm gonna write it from the boys perspective mostly. Just trust me it will work

Yeah, but I'm really a good hack when it comes to things. I can dissect stuff real easily and cheese my way int success. Honest.

Do you remember any of the tiles by chance?

Evil? by Timothy Carter

This is the goodreads synopsis.
Book of Stuart, Chapter 1:10. 10 And, yea verily, Stuart did commit the Sin of Onan in the shower. And this was witnessed by his own brother who did cry out unto their mother. And there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth. 11 And the townspeople rose up against him and all Onaners, calling upon one another to tear the youthful sinners limb from unclean limb. And there was much pants wetting. 12 And lo, Stuart did join forces with the demon, Fon Pyre, and together they did set forth to discover the cause of the town's trouble. 13 And, hark! A pair of fallen angels would plant seeds of hatred unto the townspeople. And on the seventh day, Stuart did vow to rip the fallen angels a new one and layeth upon them an epic smacketh-down.

Yeah I'm reading up on it, is it really considered YA?

Yup. It really is. I'd even consider it for the younger end of ya, but I don't decide these things.

OP, you're just going to have to write the damned thing and scale it down/up as needed. You can't ask us for advice on this as if you're just going to lay out in advance what is and is not an appropriate sex scene for a not-yet-written novel meant to appeal to a hypothetical group of teenagers. The context makes or breaks any scene in the novel, but, since the novel isn't written, there's no context and yet you want us to plan your scenes for you. It's like planning next week's meals with no information: "Hey guys, I don't know how hungry I'll be next Tuesday or if I'll be working out or just sitting on my ass, and I also don't know what I'll have in the fridge, but can you tell me what's good to eat?"

Just write the damned thing first.

I just started writing it. Speeding through it at a couple thousand words an hour. But this is really gonna affect my decisions going forward. Like I said, I'd really like it to be mainly about smut and sex and lust, but if I can't get away with that I'll have to add some other plot elements. That'll slow me down considerably.

Where on the internet can I read this fine piece of art? Asking for a friend.

Girls don't like the physical stuff as much as guys do. If you're aiming for a young female audience, focus on emotions and imply the fucking. It's your own choice in the end but this is what I'd do.