/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General Thread

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>tfw found the secret thread

So we can all agree that sci-fi > fantasy right?

sff books have the fucking worst covers

Echopraxia is shite.

I just finished "a fall of moondust"

It was shit, SHIT

????

good graphic novels?

I haven't read any children's books in a while, sorry can't help you

I just finished "space odyssey 2001"

It was meh

Should i bother with Rama?

was this supposed to be a neg at me?

elaborate

I agree it's no BS but I really enjoyed it

It's just filler book. Nothing happens.

Tell me what you like or have read or want and I'll sort you..

Finished the first law trilogy some nights ago, I want more. So good. I have the other three side books as well, but I wanted to read something else in between these. So I read leviathan wakes from the expanse series. I watched the series as well but the book is kinda different but not that different. Miller is perfect in both though.

Yes

Quit playing coy and kiss already.

Wouldn't be more likely to have anons knowledgeable in this area?

Watchmen is much better than the movie. Same for V for Vendetta - movie is trash comparatively.

Sandman series was a bit convoluted at times but a good read.

No.
The Light of Other Days

Y The Last Man

Can people post the five most entertaining fantasy books they've read? I'm looking for something fun to read while on vacation. Five because I can go through a few books in a week.

1. Narrenturm - Andrzej Sapkowski
2. The Chronicles of Amber - The Corwin Cycle
3. City of Saints and Madmen: The Book of Ambergris
4. Quicksilver - Neal Stephenson

Any interesting fantasy books in high fantasy medieval styled world that came in recent years ? (up to 6 years ago) I am looking for something interesting

>City of Saints and Madmen: The Book of Ambergris

I'm about halfway through (just finished the squidology story) does this get better and less randumb? O really liked the first story about the missionary but I feel like it peaked there and although the painter one and history book we're pretty good, has steadily declined.
really didn't care for the literal self-insert and it's starting to get obvious that every character is him and his parents since they all have a religious mother and autistic father

My favourite is "The Transformation of Martin Lake".
>does this get better
It's already good and fun
> and less randumb?
No.

Reading the second volume of Malazan right now, halfway through at the moment.
It's decent.

Man have I got something for you. Granted, I'm only about halfway into the first book and I'm still not sure if this is 'serious' or if the author is taking the piss, but I'm enjoying it.

Imagine the densest harem anime protagonist - except he's super good looking, incredibly built, tall, educated and has been trained to be a super unbeatable stealth assassin ninja knight antiwizard. Except he literally doesn't have any inherent social skills apart from what he's been taught to do in certain situations and when he set out into the world he fatally misunderstood his final orders.

It won't win any literature prizes but it's a pretty fucking fun read so far.

you mean best

wtf I love assassins now

Will only get better. Have fun.

>Aurang, the ancient Horde-General, Shaeönanra, the ancient grandmaster of the Mangaecca, gone forever. They are literally not coming back.
Hold me.

for fantasy/sci-fi or just in general?

>Fantasy
Bone
Cerebus
Conan (Dark Horse)
Sandman/Lucifer
Locke & Key (modern day with fantastic elements)
The Autumnlands
From Under Mountains
Fables

>Sci-Fi
Old City Blues (available for free online)
Eden: It's An Endless Word (manga)
Planetes (manga)
Transmetropolitan

>Medieval/Historical
Northlanders/The Black Road
Vinland Saga (manga)
Wolfsmund (manga)
Crecy (this one's a really short read)

there's also an ongoing by Greg Rucka called the Old Guard, about a group of immortals who work in the modern day as mercenaries, the oldest one in the group being a Scythian. kind of a nice mix of fantasy and history.

First Counsel Janus bet Vhalnich Mieran is my autismbando!

I began reading Jack Vance's Demon Princes series with Star King, which I just finished. It's essentially a revenge plot; as a child, the protag witnesses the massacre of his home town by the hands of five 'demon princes' i.e. arch-criminals whom he vows to kill. After training and reaching adulthood, and years of searching the galaxies, he finds a lead towards the identity of one of them by chance. It's a surprisingly hard-bitten narrative, at times like a detective novel, as we follow the protag's thought processes and cunning machinations in his pursuit of his mysterious and powerful nemesis.

This is interesting to compare to his Dying Earth books - the same wry prose, eye catching visual writing and witty dialogue is still here, but the tone is more tense and violent, and in a SF father than fantasy setting. The pacing feels good, and there is a satisfying mixture of intrigues, exotic locations, and revenge porn.

Heroes are fucking perfect. I'd go and say that it is my most favourite book ever. Abercrombie is the new Gemmell

First Law Trilogy (7-8/10)
Side books
-BSC 8/10
-Heroes 11/10
-Red Country 6-7/10
Also Slavic Fantasy books

Veeky Forums noob here.

I read Dune. It was great. What's next?

Use the links in the OP
also reading the rest of Frank Herbert's Dune books wouldn't hurt

>also reading the rest of Frank Herbert's Dune books wouldn't hurt
It would

Yeah, I've seen the links.

The problem is I feel some books, though great I'm sure, aren't for relatively new literature readers.

They have lots of established 2deep4u lore with lots of weird names that you can't even pronounce and they throw you into a situation where you have no idea what the hell is going on.

Any book recommendations that aren't like this?

Mistborn

I liked them. Why do you say that, user?

There are plenty of great and easy to read /sffg/ stories which aren't just alternate universe encyclopedias for the autistic.
>The Last Unicorn
>Childhood's End
>Starship Troopers
>The Stars My Destination
>Legend
>Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
Lots of quality entry level stuff. But don't read Mistborn, it's written by a literal autist.

If I had to suggest five books for a fairly new sf+fantasy reader, then: 1) A volume of HP Lovecraft short stories; 2) GRRM's Game Of Thrones; 3) A Robert Heinlein 'juvenile', i.e. Red Planet, Citizen Of The Galaxy, etc; 4) Gateway by Frederik Pohl; 5) The Man Who Fell To Earth by Walter Tevis. These are accessible and entertaining books with a popular appeal, and some depth.

IMO books like Dune and Foundation are poor introductions. Dune is stodgy, Foundation offers little of the expected adventures and spacefaring thrills and is more of an extended history analogy.

>reading scifi/fantasy
>unironically calling someone a literal autist
well alright then

The "crash course" chart intentionally avoids difficult books. And frankly SF isn't a particularly esoteric genre. Some bad fantasy is difficult to follow but stick to well known standalones or defined trilogies and you'll be pretty safe.

...

The Foundation series by Asimov is excellent and my favourite after Dune; however I would at least try the rest of Herbert's work as I found them to be a great continuation of the narrative began in Dune and it goes into some real depth with his ideas. The series as a whole has a different feel compared to the first book on its own which is why some people don't like it but you owe it to yourself to try - but whatever you do don't read anything by his son.

I was under the assumption Game of Thrones was mainstream crap. The books are a good fantasy read?

They're awful pseudo-fantasy historical food porn. All you'll gain from reading them is a broader view of the vast spectrum of quality that encompasses genre fiction and you'll realise just how thick the vast majority of the population are.

The first two books are brilliant, and they're they're a good intro to fantasy fiction - action, intrigue, interesting characters. I think most readers would come away from them wanting to read more fantasy fiction, than if they read something dusty like Lord Of The Rings.

>read something dusty like Lord Of The Rings.
Die in a fire desu :)

I don't think Ill ever read a book again without looking at a list of character names first

They're pretty good

Someone asked last thread about court/intrigue books, read The Lion of Senet. It's fantasy with almost nothing but intrigue, it even manages to turn the usual exceptionalism of a fantasy protagonist into a weakness.

>tfw sweet vanilla romance

I just finished editing my science fiction anthology and made a book teaser trailer video. Is this normal? Do people make these? I have no idea.

youtu.be/IgC1CPYylS4

I liked Rama, but not the sequels

never read 2001, figured the movie was good enough

I saw your work on /ic/ and although it will probably look good to people who aren't artists you really need to grind the fundamentals and values when you have the time. A lot of the shading is fairly two dimensional and doesn't have a lot of weight behind it.

they're great, they kick the shit of 98% of fantasy

+ a handful of excellent POV characters, others run the gamut from great to meh
+ fantastic, layered plotting
+ well-paced and moves along at a good clip
+ interesting and deep (but fairly vanilla) wordbuilding
+ third book is the peak in quality

- cancerous normie fanbase, even the girls on tinder love it now
- mediocre fourth book, good fifth book

>leaves out his recs which are so much better

t-thanks for 40 pages of the basics on game theory and chinese rooms, real interesting

dropped

Post yfw when this piece of shit wins the Hugos

They all took ten minutes, so that makes sense.

It's great for that timeframe!

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The show is mainstream crap, the books were extremely well regarded in the fantasy scene for over a decade before the show even existed. Though why you're trying to act like a snob when you have zero fantasy chops is kinda confusing, somebody in your position should be reading stuff like GoT since it is able to appeal to people new to the genre and get them into it.

spoopy

Really enjoying this Rogue Angel series, on the first book, but
>Magic sword
>two 500 year old guys
>badass female protag who takes on guys thrice her size who are on steroids
>Comfy adventures
What more could you honestly ask for

>There's 57 books in the series

I spent four years writing the stories and four days doing the drawings. I just want
it done, and specifically went for a messy pen and ink style so that I wouldn't overthink it and bog
myself down with the art.

I feel the same way about the cover. I just wanted a simple retro aesthetic and once I felt like I had it I stopped messing with it.

I have to be honest with you guys. Making a book by yourself is a ton of work, and it sucks, and it makes you anxious and feel like shit the whole time.

The only difference between an indie author and an agented author at a big publisher, is that I don't get the copout of having blind faith in some publishing interns to ease the anxiety, and instead have to do it myself.

That was a pointless rant. I need to get some sleep. The book should be out mid next week.

Have some faith, the cover and the trailer looks great.

Does you have the

the book edited by Ursula le Guin that has Gene Wolfe i

what works by Gene Wolfe are in book?

Did we just witness a shitposter have a stroke?

How do I into self-publishing?

Follow the advice of our fellow aspiring author Stevian Heartbound

ease someone help me understand where Gene Wolfe put the ne

lmao look at that waddle

he looks so soft

we could cuddle and talk about fantasy worlds and compare pnp systems while basil poledouris plays in the background

Any fantasy with a protagonist who's just a weak piss of shit.

Not physically, but mentally.
Easily gives up, easily scared and chooses to die before choosing to fight back.

Just somebody who doesn't deserve to be the hero.

Gateway is slyly probably one my favourite books ever. It did everything so right

What's with all this Watts hate recently?
Are you all just plebs?

Anyone here read this?

Rincewind?

Thomas Covenant

Warning: lots of people hate the books.

Sounds like what I'm looking for, thanks.

>hate
Reading spoiler-less reviews seems like it's literally all about the character being a bitch.
great.

Why do you need to self-insert?

Is house of blades good?

Did you read it? What's so bad about it?

It's fun but I wouldn't exactly call it good

If you want to read something that's basically an anime raising your power levels story you'll be okay, if you're looking for worldbuilding or whatever than you won't like it.

Sounds like just the thing.

I assume it has "Beast mode" moments?

Because reading about myself in some fantasy setting is preferable to thinking about my gardening(removing weeds from pavements with a brush-cutter) work for the local government while on anti-psychotics.

The Long Price series


The protag is literally the most worthless and self-pitying piece of shit you could imagine.

>books a modern new reader would enjoy
I got you senpai

Yes it does. It's literal anime.

His new series is even more anime, it even has the fucking Journey to the West/Dragonball cloud

Unfortunately I had to wait for the third book and couldn't remember who the fuck anyone was when I started reading it

Where do I start Discworld?

Please give epub.