Please recommend edgy thinkers that are actually good

I just wish he toned down the pornography in his books. I feel uneasy reading any display of human sexuality.

He begged for a living and often slept in a large ceramic jar in the marketplace. He became notorious for his philosophical stunts such as carrying a lamp in the daytime, claiming to be looking for an honest man. He criticized and embarrassed Plato, disputed his interpretation of Socrates and sabotaged his lectures, sometimes distracting attendees by bringing food and eating during the discussions. Diogenes was also noted for having publicly mocked Alexander the Great.

his first two novels are great

Christ, that floored me. Now I have to read Houellebecq. Luckily I read French.

I dont know if he's good but he's sure edgy as fuck.
MARAT

this has a lot of replies but I dont want to read the whole quote because it's too long can someone give me the TLDR?

Schopenhauer

god is dead, basically

>the reason for kids is for me to give them my shit my values and inheritance
>i don't have shit, i work for other and the values and rules i live by wont be useful to him by the time he grows up
>i have to accept the fact that everything changes, he has to accept that life is the sum of his own experiences
>nothing in the past, and future mean nothing to him.

there

it's called freedom, stop being such a baby

Read Carl Schmitt and pic related until your eyes fall out. Supplement with Hobbes, Machiavelli, and Judah Halevi until you're redpilled enough to Jew the West back into relevance.

Hitler had some legitimately good critiques of the German political system of his era.

And he definitely understood Churchill as a character right from the get-go.

Ludovici and Chamberlain.

They are de Maistre-like hardliners but the Throne and Altar conservatism is replaced with pure Darwinism.

They both have a very hard edge and are extremely erudite.

No. Read the Culture of Critique and take the redpill. Neocons are just another Jewish clique.

Revilo Oliver too.

Also, in a more literary vein, Arthur de Gobineau.

Stirner, Neitszshe

>Breivik

Are /pol/tards this stupid?

>can't read a single paragraph

It's time to take a break from 4change bro

>Carl Schmitt is a neocon
>Hobbes and Machiavelli are neocons
>Strauss is a neocon
I don't think you know what neoconservatism is. inb4 you say it's a form of Trotskyism AKA Bolshevism AKA Communism AKA Marxism and call me a cuck

Kaczynski

German and the Next War is good if you want edgy philosophy on war and early 20th century politics.
On War of Today is good if you like military history. It's written for military thinkers in the same vein as something a Clausewitz or a Jomini (whom Bernhardi criticizes heavily) might write. His style is pretty direct too.

How do we get freedom from freedom?

Chateaubriand, Nicolás Gómez Dávila, Juan Donoso Cortes.

Are there any Western reactionaries that consider islamification as a last resort alternative to neoliberalism?

This sounds really good. I always disliked the LARPy part of a lot of reactionary thought today

None of these people were "edgy".

Carl Schmitt denied Hobbes as a liberalist no better than Weimar degenerates, he was pretty rad.

You could always look into the National-Socialists who converted to Islam - and there are a whole bunch of them...

Also, bear in mind that some racialist thinkers were also scholars of the Middle East and its peoples: Lothrop Stoddard, L.F. Clauss, among others.

what a crybaby

Takes a village to raise a child, stop blaming your surroundings.

>you need the surroundings to raise a child
>stop blaiming surroundings

Made me think.

Could you drop the names of those natsocs? Any ones that wrote on it?

>Takes a village to raise a child, stop blaming your surroundings.

What did he mean by this?

>in past ages all children were sons
When did we lose our way? When did we forget the art of homosexual reproduction?

Jeez, you're able to use the frigging internet, do some research yourself, you might develop some skills while you're at it. I've already given one name.

There's also Rene Guenon, who privately advised converting to Islam, though he was careful not to say this in his published books. His friend Guido di Giorgio was also a convert to Islam; he wrote similarly-themed articles to Evola.

It's too late, Islam is already getting raped by the globalists, just like everything else. ISIS is postmodern to the core.

some negro proverb, and their excuse for why they cannot adapt to Western society since thy have no villages, and urbanely flee responsibility.

Basically, that feudalism was good.

I reccommend Ludovici. his views on sexuality are quite profound. bith against feminism and against the sexophobia of christianity

counter-currents.com/2010/07/christianity-and-dysgenics/

this excerpt of him is good. he also was the secretary of auguste rodin the sculptor, and the foremost translator of Nietzsche in english.

revilo oliver is too sarcastic and bitter for my taste, but he was a very intelligent man, professor of the classics with a good grip on latin and greek.

Strauss is credited with the founding of the neoconservative movement, but you're right in that his full panoply of beliefs varies greatly from his successors.

>darwinism
Into the trash

you some kind of a tard, tard?

just fuck right off out of here, would you, this is a reading board.

Lothrop Stoddard is a must-read. His the rising the tide of color against white supremacy and revolt against civilization; the menace of the underman are both very good books, of which pdf's are freely available online.

his thesis on the frenc revolution in haiti is also quite good, objective without mincing words.

he was quite the visionary, predicting in the his book "the new world of islam" the rise of islamism as a new powerful threat that would spread around the world because of saudi wahabism

>Hitler
Tried but failed hard.
>Moldbug
Literally not one ironic bone in his body.
>Breivik
Copy-paste.
>Evola
Copy-paste: The Origin Story
>Peterson
Literally who?
>Bataille
Overrated hack.
>De Sade
Criminally insane.
>Lautreamont
>Mesrine
Literally who?
>Huysmans
Tryhard.

>implying that the kids back then could look forward to a stable future
Only in the spoiled 20th century could someone write something like that. Only in the spoiled 20th century.

kek

Quit being lazy you man-child.

Shame on all of you who """"helped""""" him.

>Only in the spoiled 20th century could someone write something like that
Yeah, the 20th century was marked by stability in jobs and a direct adherence to inherited morals and ancestral culture.

>Overrated Hack
Offers no reasoning, just lazy opinions
>criminally insane
Ad hominem
>literally who?
Can't get the meme right, pretends ignorance is a virtue or conversely popularity is the greatest virtue
>tryhard
Again, lazy opinion, also promoting the idea that effort is somehow a fault, so lazy that he must make laziness into a virtue

Self esteem so low he can do nothing but denigrate his superiors. Sad.

Yeah, what this user said; the other prat should just fuck off too with the cretin who can't read.

Also, scratch that knob Mesrine from the list and replace his book with that of Roger Trinquier - you want edgy? Read his book on modern warfare and counter-insurgency, the book the Americunt gubbermint was too fucking dumb to read.

Peterson is a humanist little anglo jungian. Straight-edge as fuck.

>Strauss is credited with the founding of the neoconservative movement

He personally defended paleocon views and his best-sell student Alan Bloom is part that particular ideology. Neo-cons are like neo-liberals, establishment taking what they like from actual ideologies.

No, it doesn't. It takes a family.

Not merely a nuclear one though.

reading is boring and for nerds. this board is for dank memes

>anglo
What does 'anglo-saxon' mean in the context of philosophy?

it means it's trash as all anglo """""""""""philosophers""""""""""""" have been complete hacks

Rene Guenon

Lee Edelman
Bataille
Andrew Culp
Pierre Clastres
Mbembe
Fanon
Lyotard
Sorel

Lermontov - A Hero of Our Time

Adam Wallace.

Thierry Baudet

Aristotle
Xenophon's Plato
Descartes
Nietzsche
Spinoza
Voltaire
L Ron Hubbard

I meant Xenophon's Socrates of course. Plato's Socrates is a retarded cocksucker.

I've read this book and it's rubbish, Hollaback's reasoning is all childish whining and churlish imagery. He feels dispossesed because of some trauma, and blames the decadence of a society as the cause of his wounds, then becoming himself the worst exponent of that decadence. He plays at the feeling of not getting to experience the beautiful and true things in life (especially young life, young love, etc.) because of the degradation of common morality, not realising for a minute that those things themselves are inventions and ideological poison, nobody but idiots are orphan to "teenage love that never was", young love really makes no difference compared to the violence of grown-up relashionships, which are much more interesting and rewarding, and damaging. He is like an ugly teenager corroded by romantic teen movies and family dramas, feeling like missing out on a fabrication.

On that quote, isn't it a much better to not have an inherited material life, in which you don't have to keep to people you didn't choose, and are able to actually choose whom you love? In which the only transmissible property is immaterial, things that actually are moral and of character?
Only the dissafected middle class says shit like he does, if he knew what working class families are he would know families are just a bondage, sick mothers that tie you down, fathers that beat the shit out of you, a chain to the same bullshit living.

His novels are just drivel and bad sex scenes.

I agree with that he said there and it was really put. Really well written truth about modern societies, particularly the morally deprived and socially depressed west.

Nick Land

Straussians: Poli-sci (namely "political philosophy") professors. Write about Kant, Plato, and whatnot. West coast branch (Claremont) supported Trump.

Neocons: Beltway clique, work at thinktanks, the government, or crappy magazines. Had Straussian professors in college. Write about invading Qatar and Iran.

I'm very glad I didn't have a youtube channel where I spouted my political beliefs when I was 18.

It's in French but you can probably find some authors in English translation.

This one's about the most known nationalist movement of the first part of the XXth century

...

...

De Maistre is even bigger LARPing fag than Nietzsche or Rand.

Prophet Muhammed

Bernhard
Gaddis
Gass
Kafka (just because he's been co-opted doesn't mean that the reality of his ideas have been completely assimilated. He suggests some pretty frowned about conclusions about humanity)
Pynchon (although are we sure he's not just a self hating liberal? Rorty reduces him to that and I'm not sure I agree)
DeLillo (also has been co-opted by mainstream literary types but some of his conclusions are also fairly shocking. I can't imagine a more biting satire of science and its claims to knowledge than Ratner's Star. Also, predicting 9/11 several times and being able to back up any prediction with the quote "but they were our own fantasies ultimately, weren't they? The whole assortment. Our leaders simply lived them out. Our elected representatives...All we had to do was know our own dreams."

Freedom is the highest virtue of a slave.

Bruhh what city do you live in?

What's larping and why do yousaythat lol

Abbas al aqad

Ibn khuldun

Taha hussein

Theyre pretty good if you're at all interested in the islamic stag-vilization.

Ligotti
Lovecraft (when he puts his mind to it)

Locke
Descartes
Tolstoy
Nietzsche

Adam did nothing wrong.

>Houellebecq
what can I read of his oeuvre first?

his first novel, Whatever.

What a bad post.

''on, nobody but idiots are orphan to "teenage love that never was", young love really makes no difference compared to the violence of grown-up relashionships, which are much more interesting and rewarding, and damaging. He is like an ugly teenager corroded by romantic teen movies and family dramas, feeling like missing out on a fabrication.''

This is not the young love he's refering to. Go read some poetry.

''In which the only transmissible property is immaterial, things that actually are moral and of character?''

This is precisely what the quote is about ; that moral things and things of character are no longer being inherited. The quote is not about material inheritance but about societal inheritance (civilization, culture in both sense of the term).

Kaczynski

> Rorty reduces him to that and I'm not sure I agree

Where does Rorty say this? I'm interested.

> "but they were our own fantasies ultimately, weren't they? The whole assortment. Our leaders simply lived them out. Our elected representatives...All we had to do was know our own dreams."

Did he say this in an interview? I don't recall reading it in one of his novels.

fuck off I don't have time to read every shitpost

My point was precisely that the morality he claims is not inherited anymore isn't the one that facilitates the experience missing. What he feels people (or himself) lack is something that comes from not having an inherited life, which contradicts his idea that those things could only happen within a traditional moral life. Someone that has had a modicum of life experience and takes himself honestly can realise this easily. When you persistently write about non-experience and trying to substitute it, you denounce yourself as ideologically poisoned by a lifeframe that isn't yours to begin with, "being spooked".

...

Problematisch.