They aren't even trying to hide it

The Frankfurt School has written some good stuff. You should check it out

/pol/ idiocy aside, the Frankfurt school remains a collection of mediocrities. Their shallow and banal critique of capitalism reveals only a bookish disconnect from the realities od the human experience

>when you're a pseud who gets his opinions from youtube videos and don't realize that vapid consumer culture is an outgrowth of generalized commodity production

They sell things that there exists natural demand for.

Consumerism is a byproduct of an unregulated (and therefore hyper-innovative) media industry acting on a braindead body public, made malleable through socialist education.

Media v. education is one of the many societally defining techno-dialectics. When you go free market on information technology and media, but socialist on education, you get consumerism. The inevitable decay toward corporatism follows as the plague of consumerism expands.

This is obvious but not poetic, and therefore missed by the narrative-centric Frankfurt school.

>natural demand

HAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHA

i dont need to read adorno guys, i already pretty much understand from pictures on Veeky Forums

pls go actually read a book

>Who needs food when you have Marx

>he eats fidget spinners

inb4 thread full of leftist crying about how cultural marxism isn't real.

>the human experience

Neoliberal identity politics is real and not radical at all. It's isn't Marxist, because it concerns itself with identity rather than class struggle

Ome of these great threads again

>pol retards criticize something they don't know anything about
>adorno retards create an ideology of criticizing ideology

Good shit.

You should know it's derived from Marxism. Hegel's Spirit turned to Marx's Materia turned to Frankfurt Schoolers Culture. Same power struggle exists, but not between class, but in all forms of culture for these deranged people who like to be victims and fetishesize revolution, being a victim of their surroundings is their only idieology.

well insofar as capitalism had become central to western culture, you can very much say he was trying to subvert it.

the frankfurt school were pretty unambiguous about their distaste for western culture, its not so far-fetched to say they were trying to actively subvert it through means of cultural critique and scholastic erudition. but everybody is so fucking frantic to disembowel everyone else whenever they get the scent that someone is trying to claim something definitive about anything, lest they look smart or whatever, so we all cry "CONSPIRACY THEORIST" as a knee-jerk

this is actually so simple, people who think hegel is complicated must be really dumb xd

Class struggle is based on objective material conditions of existence that shape consciousness. That's where you see the difference between the hysterical liberals and, say, the Frankfurt School

how do you know op is from /pol/?

yes and modern liberal identity politics lend the elements of identity the status of objective material conditions that precede their consciousness.

>and modern liberal identity politics lend the elements of identity the status of objective material conditions

How are Marxists responsible for these people's perversion of their ideas?

The beginning page is a bit exaggerated when talking about the Judeo-Christian roots of America, and the "solution" page could be done better. However, you don't eat a burger for the buns. Here is a summary of what the Frankfurt school has done and why people are opposed to them. Critical theory in particular is one of the most cancerous ideologies in our society, these people's teachings are why we have lunatics like the Evergreen college students, the noodle armed Antifa that recruits from college, and the crazed Mizzou shit. If nothing in these pictures sound familiar, you aren't paying attention to reality.

>Marxists might also find it interesting that the paper correctly states that Cultural Marxism isn't pure Marxism but sort of an offshoot. They believe in a few things that Marx would have disapproved of. Especially "Abandonment of the working class"

youtube.com/watch?v=VHHocQ3HoSc

youtube.com/watch?v=A0KwdtCmvWg
This would be easier if I could just post all the images at once, but oh well.

is it weird that i'm masturbating to this thread right now

Part four. Swap sins and values and the "oppression" parts should really ring a bell

Fifth part

Again with the Christian stuff. I am not religious so I am iffy, but the paper is golden. Sums it all up better than I could.
>"In the case of religion: destroy it. Ridicule it. Replace it with various sects, cults, which brings people's attention. Faith, whether it is naive or primitive doesn't really matter. As long as the basically accepted religious dogma is being slowly eroded and taken away from the supreme purpose of religion - to keep people in touch with the Supreme Being - that serves the purpose. Therefore replace the accepted and respected religious organizations with fake organizations. Distract peoples attention from the real faith and attract them to various different faiths." - Yuri Bezmenov L.A. 1983

The Holcaust came after the Frankfurt school began, not before.

nope, the started out in 1924 with the foundation of the institute for social research

the problem with this is that it conflates religion with systems of morality, when that's not exclusively and essentially the case. people can still be atheist but if there is some other social institution that provides a backbone to their beliefs they will stand by them, even if it's just local tradition. I see Lind's points about the division and destruction of former American society but there comes a point where we should acknowledge that many aspects of that society were regressive.

>When you lack even a basic understanding of evolutionary psychology and nuance and thus fail to realize that while there are many variables that contribute to consumerism, the materialistic and consumerist tendencies so noticeable in modern society are primarily the result of an innate desire to accumulate wealth and resources, and to a lesser extent provide an ostensive display of one's status.

>How are Marxists responsible for these people's perversion of their ideas?
Only in the regard that marxism once was purely materalistic but somewhere on the road got idealistic with Gramsci et al.

>muh christianity
>muh cherry picking of the 50's (protip: the noggoz had a living hell, more or less)
>muh belief that everything can stay the same, always
>muh forgetting that churches are not only institutions of theology, but also social services

people really believe this shit? lmao
whats next? flat earth theories?

Lazy conservative finger pointing. Look up the Ford Foundation. Sensitive Jewish intellectuals bothered that the west doesn't like God anymore aren't your worse enemy.

Good goy!

prove it isn't real, you dumb cuck I bet you don't even lift.

well in case that is real what are you cucks doing? i mean apart from bitching on the internet, because hell that really helps your cause.

I live in a 98% white country and I hate america, eat my cock

The goyim know!

Why make these threads if you haven't read them ? I'm really curious on how the average /pol/ user sees themselves after making these shitposts

"the genius of /pol/ is that it treats propaganda as a game" - nick land

ITT Veeky Forums contrarians deny the obvious hatred of western civilization that these cunts possessed.

Should be "When you're trying to criticize why capitalist leads to decadent consumerism but your ideas lead to mass degeneracy and decadence of everything"

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Just rest The Corrections and your delusional vision of the type of world you live in will evaporate.

Don't even like Franzen.

Marcuse is responsible for some dumbed-down liberationism and fetishising the revolutionary potential of minorities (thereby engendering id-pol), but his core theses in Eros and Civilisation and One-Dimensional Man aren't crazy.

Adorno can be blamed for swallowing freudianism uncritically. No problem with him otherwise.

Don't know about Horkheimer.

Habermas isn't subversive in any way.

You have a whole folder of these, don't you?

>When you try to pathologize white peoples social fabric but you also like classic music a little so it's okay

jesus.....its almost like you have more than a superficiall, passing knowledge of them.

Did you go to the trouble of reading the wiki page on them?

>*Yawns Jewishly*
>Oy vey haven't we had this discussion before goy?
>No problems at all in modern society... No reason to be concerned

>bourgeoisie
You're behind a century or two.

america is a cancer that must be purged

fucking embarrassing

How can you get so close to the point that and then nosedive so hard

Tons of scientists, composers and artists were/are Jooce too. It's almost as if muh white race mainly consists out of brainlets like you.

>consists out of brainlets
Want to try again? Jews can go be those things in their own countries, and it's inconsequential anyway since their influence is an indisputably net negative in white nations.

>"Hey guys, thanks for advancing out society and creating "our" culture. Now gtfo please."
Sounds like a shitty deal.

> since their influence is an indisputably net negative in white nations.
Muh white nations would be on best Korea level without their influence.

There is a conspiracy to destroy civilization and it is called Capitalism. It is the replacement of human drives with capital drives, replacement of the human organism with a technological organism.

For all of the right's conspiracy driven fantasies about jew's destroying civilization, they fail to see that it is the liberated individual as an economic locus that has destroyed christian and humanist (which are essentially the same thing) understandings of community.

TLDR: cultural marxism isn't destroying the old ways, capitalism is. And that's a good thing.

And I don't know why the mod's deleted this image, it's a very nice image. A great image.

It's an Adorno quote for those who haven't actually read stuff from the Frankfurt school.

What the frankfurt school feared most is coming to pass. Capitalism is devouring Humanity.

The alt-right is proving itself to be just as totalitarian as the neo-left with its assault on the Frankfurt School. An educated, reasonable person should be able to read these guys, reflect on and interpret their arguments, and decide whether or not they agree or disagree with them, but it seems like the predominating tendency is to wholly denounce them in an attempt to prevent people from reading them.

Their critiques of modern society are valuable for anyone who finds himself disillusioned by the status quo, but they of course have their shortcomings and errors, as does any thinker. Only a brainlet would refuse to read someone based on a distortion of their argument.

Obviously truth and intellectual honesty are foreign concepts to you, I'm guessing because you are jewish. Jews are middle eastern semites who like their arab cousins can only destroy what others have built, their influence on the west has been almost entirely negative.

This individual is delusional. The Frankfurt School epitomizes the destructive jewish mind. These are an alien people who think they have a right to live among us and deconstruct the foundations of our societies. Nothing valuable has arisen from this, it has been purely destructive, because that was the point. This is how jews think and operate.

>truth and intellectual honesty are foreign concepts to you
Coming from a brainlet who thinks the West would be relevant without 20% of the nobel price winners.

Nepotism is not a virtue. The jewish Hollywood propaganda machine also hands out a disproportionate amount of awards to jews. These things do not shed positive light on their horribly negative influence on our societies.

>Nepotism is not a virtue.
>muh Jooce magically get access to scientific breakthroughs
Interesting theory. Why not boycotting their evil inventions then? Some kike like Kleinrock did major contributions to create the Internet, free yourself from his negative influence.

itt

Glad to see this board like most others on Veeky Forums has completed its transformation into an elaborate subthread on /pol/.

You are mistaken. Jews are not innovators and do very poorly on spatial IQ tests, which is a proxy for creativity, because they are semites. They have also held many scientific fields back decades, to wit Stephen J. Gould and Lewontin. Whatever outliers you want to promote on here are meaningless anyway though since the jewish impact on white cultural endeavors has been demonstrably negative, period. Jews have no place in our societies and must be removed before they erode them any further than they already have.

love to have light moderation on an anonymous image board to enable people with socially unacceptable views to find solidarity with other failure reactionaries and form a thriving community.

>>>plebbit

lets embrace it

Nice Nazi propaganda, you frog loving retard.

>The alt-right is proving itself to be just as totalitarian as the neo-left with its assault on the Frankfurt School.

Wrong. The neo-left shuts things down. They call it hate speech and ban it from twitter and youtube. Or they silence speech through intimidation and violence; that would be antifa.

The right's critique of cultural Marxism precedes the "alt-right." It is, however, merely a critique -- it is not an assault, it is not attempt to shut anything down.

It is criticism. That's what free speech is supposed to be about. That's what you're demonizing.

>but it seems like the predominating tendency is to wholly denounce them in an attempt to prevent people from reading them

It's a critique, no one is saying don't read it. Maybe an article like Lind's discourages people from reading the original sources. Okay. So what? That's the peril of allowing free speech, of allowing criticism. Secondly -- hah! Cultural Marxism - Gramsci, Benjamin, Marcuse - is deservedly famous for being utterly abstruse. A study of the sources will produce nothing but bafflement in the "hoi polloi"; the stuff is written for academics and intellectuals, it's not written for the common man, far from it.

>The right's critique of cultural Marxism precedes the "alt-right." It is, however, merely a critique -- it is not an assault, it is not attempt to shut anything down.
"fake news" "banning thing for the children"

love to have a self-concept so fragile and intimately woven into the appreciation I've received as a white male that politics which deny whiteness and maleness as intrinsically valuable immediately turn me into a white supremacist.

frogs should be killed.

love to refer to the deconstruction of the colonial logic which psychologically buffers slavers to allow the existence of a slave class as "cultural marxism".

> outliers you want to promote on here are meaningless anyway
Outside of the fact that they allowed you to spread memes. Though yeah, perhaps you'd be better off without it.

"Genuine culture"
Fucking retarded appeal to nature. Raping the fuck out of women was standard practice for many genuine cultures. Mass death due to petulance was ended by virtue of captilism barbarity.
Who gives a shit if popular culture is trash. The people who operate on it are too brain dead to notice and low brow culture is inevitable among knuckle-dragging humans. Those of us who outgrow it should be thankful that our society facilitates upward mobility and the internet/noose are there for those of us who can't escape.
Everyone wins thanks to evil old capitalism.

this is the most middle class post I've ever read.

>Fucking retarded appeal to nature

quick, what percentage of the people who cite informal fallacies think they're being "logical" by doing so, and what percentage of those can do predicate calculus.

love too abuse meme-forms and call it 'praxis'

You are a fucking idiot worthless enough to spout shit without even considering to check for seconds the simple information that you are using to make a wrong and misguided point.

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checked comrade

Not everyone just discovered name your fallacy dot com. Some of us are as brilliant as you and have taken intro to logic - we just don't brag about it on anonymous internet forum.

yeah I wonder

also if you were op, don't get me confused - by middle class I wasn't referring to your "appeal to nature" quip - I was referring to the manic recitation of manifest destiny.

Never read it

genetic fallacy

>Oy vey! I bet these Jews have such a philosophy because they wish to undermine Western civilisation and destroy our culture!
Perhaps, but would you please engage with the text or their ideas before assuming so? After all, that sounds like the sort of opinion one would develop through familiarity with their work. It would be bull-headed to first assume a foul motive and use it to dismiss all of their work and ideas from the get go, rather than to engage with their work and then come to some conclusion.

Be careful not to read like-minded people's words as Revelation, and also not to read unfamiliar words as if it came from the mouth of the devil itself. Approach both with a certain degree of respect and critical distance.

“The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently.”

>“The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently.”
Where can I find people who aren't like this?