Hasn’t history proven that Marx’s vision of an egalitarian utopia is unattainable...

Hasn’t history proven that Marx’s vision of an egalitarian utopia is unattainable, inevitably creating an oligarchy more oppressive to the proletariat than the bourgeoisie it vilifies?

Yes, but that won't stop utopians.

Hasn’t history proven that Leonardo Da Vinci's vision of a flying machine is unattainable, inevitably creating a thing that doesn't fly?

We're not talking about flying machines, you dumb fuck.

Nice analogy, but it feels like comparing apples with oranges.

I hope this is bait..

Soviet Union was better than modern Russia though

That was the point, OP. Marx was a jew and jews aren't idealistic thinkers like Europeans, they are tribal thinkers. The whole point of communism was to overthrow the bourgeois, meaning the European aristocracy, using the uneducated masses, so that jews could become the new aristocracy of Europe, unhindered by the native elite restricting their power and ability to operate. And that was the result, don't forget it. Jews don't develop utopian systems like Christianity, communism, and liberal egalitarianism because they believe they will benefit humanity, they develop them because they believe they will benefit jews by selling a message of utopian universalism -- a non-national or non-ethnic based system -- because that's the only system in which jews can operate. Jews sell universalist ideology to the goyim because they know *you* are idealistic and moral and will want to believe, but they are only doing that because they believe it will increase their power.

It really isn't and you clearly don't know anyone that lived under the soviet union.

was marx a real jew though? or a poor jew?

Of course, jewishness is genetic and jews are the most tribal people on the planet -- a tiny group that has remained cohesive for thousands of years -- so they think and act as a collective unit: "Is it good for the jews?"

You haven't read Marx.

Jews created Europe with Charlemagne

Yes

Jews bribed Charlemagne to spread jewish Christianity, and while Christianity may have later helped unify Europe during arab invasions and such, it's a major logical stretch to make the statement you did in your post.

That's literally what the word utopia means.

Right, increased substance abuse and decreased lifespans really speak to the benefits of shock-therapy capitalism.

History doesn't prove anything, it just happens.

>trusting soviet numbers
Do you also have a hot take on the gulags?

I kid you not, I just had this exact same captcha.

History proves plenty.

Not really. He asserted from day one that a global and unified revolution was absolutely necessary and that if communism and capitalism were to exist side by side, capitalism would swallow communism.
That being said, he thought the revolution the most likely scenario of success. But gradual socialism (like social democracy) was still in the race. And history seems to indicate that those are more realistic in the long run.

And likely necessary, given technological advancement. Capitalism has no answer to a society where labor necessities are lower than the population. And half-baked welfare-state shit is only a band-aid.

No, that shit was all Lenin's fault.

No. His historical materialism or in general hishistorism has just been proven to on all too shaky legs. if everything is viewed from an historical standpoint, than everything becomes relative in terms of the present or past standpoint in an historical sense. the circumstances just changed, but what is marx undenieable truth?

Yes