How many here has schizophrenia? Does it affect your reading?

>Nice generalization bro
Do you know what psychology is?

>outside of the novelty of their behavior and the possibility of studying them, they really aren't fun to talk to on a personal level.

Thats a generalization, and my statement was inherently psychological so your dumbass "question" is dumb

People know that horror movies aren't real but they sure as shit get done by the jump scares.

In order to even have a useful term like "schizophrenia" you need to make generalizations/abstractions. That's how language works. Your other option is a separate name for every individual's unique mental state, which would clearly be stupid

Unclear/confused thinking, reduced social engagement, reduced emotional expression, lack of desire to form relationships, alogia, deficiency in semantic processing, and inability to experience pleasure are all common symptoms of schizophrenics, and guess what, that can provide a very real struggle in trying to connect to or communicate with them.

The crucial and terrible part about schizophrenia isn't the hallucination, it's the inability to determine what is real and what isn't. If we see heat waves on the horizon, most of us know pretty well that those distant objects aren't actually wiggling around, they just appear to be. That mental realization is far harder for a schizophrenic to have

>Outside of the novelty of their behavior and the possibility of studying them, they really aren't fun to talk to on a personal level
I have a schizophrenic friend, and he's pretty normal when he isn't going through one of his episodes. Though he mostly has it together, there are people out there much more far gone than he is.

>it's great I'm just sad all the time
Sounds like you could use some meds, user

That's a long winded way of saying everything said is useless anecdotes.

>he still believes that all generalizations are inherently bad
>he still believes that anecdotal evidence is never useful
>he thinks that widespread studies examining hundreds of patients and identifying recurring correlations and similarities qualifies as anecdotal

Wow. I'm honestly blown away. Don't you have a youtube comment section to be frequenting?

Clinical psychology keeps generalizations too a minimum, and adapts a purely pragmatic view where such generalizations have to be made. You making a blanket statement about all schizophrenics is the opposite of that. If you genuinely tired to be helpful and said something along the lines of "since schizophrenia is characterized by symptoms x, a lot of schizophrenics are hard to talk to because of x" that would be okay, and it would be factually true, but you didnt, you just went with the most lazy formulation of the problem possible, then you tried to justify it because "muh psychology muh symptomatic muh imprecise language"

My mother has very acute paranoid schizophrenia. I'm becoming more and more sure that i'm following in her disorder. It's hard for me to focus: I spent a lot of time dithering between trying to write and trying to read, typically just speed-browsing through Veeky Forums and other social media sites instead, never really absorbing the information on the page as I am just glossing over things out of a sense of duty, like i'm obligated to be constantly doing something, instead of nothing. Moreover I sometimes feel a sense worse than apathy, akin to an inhuman motorization. I'll do things for no purpose, with no guiding reason other than to do so because I feel obliged to continue on for that very same drive. I don't want to be left alone with my thoughts. I fantasize about killing myself very much.

I've only heard a voice once, after hitting a dab for the first and only time (I used to smoke pretty regularly, but stopped because of anxiety revolving around the possibility of having this disorder) . It was an elderly man with a deep, gravelly voice. He accused me of being Jewish and having disgusting, rat-like Jewishness in me. He said that I needed to be purged of it. As far as I know i'm half Ukrainian, half Italian, though I've never had genetic testing, and i'm now more perturbed by Jewish memes on Veeky Forums than I've ever been before. Come to think of it, most of my internal monologue is illogical, prescripts of what other people have said, so maybe I really am deep in it and i'm just late to be aware of that.

When I am clearheaded and reading though, it makes me feel calm and ordered.

If you're able, see a psych about it now while you can.

>"since schizophrenia is characterized by symptoms x, a lot of schizophrenics are hard to talk to because of x"
I don't see how I didn't do just that in my second paragraph

>"muh psychology muh symptomatic muh imprecise language"
You could have given me a fully formed reason why you don't think I handled my response well, but instead you just said that it was "lazy," which isn't very helpful without explanation, and then just put "muh" in front of a few different phrases and called it a day. You really want to tell me that I'm the lazy one here?

If you think you're prodrome go see a shrink dude

How all the choices you'd made, would drive you insane, I wish we never met.

Dance, dance, monkeys.

What had his aunt done?

Burned him, hit him, starved him, told him she was going to kill him and his mom if she ever saw him again

I'm schizo.

You wouldn't guess it though. I am on medication.

When I was off medication, I was quite wild. I felt like I was connecting but the feeling was not mutual.

Did not affect my ability to read in any meaningful way. Made me come to a bunch of incorrect conclusions about what I read though.

Since getting on medicine, I think mu tastes have changed slightly. I feel far older than my years these days...

If you feel you are going crazy: see a psychiatrist! The quicker you get on meds the less mental deterioration.

it's not like the sixth sense retard. its a disorganization in thinking.

good to here you're doing right bro. stay strong, stick to good friends and familia and remember there is literally no bullshit you aren't entitled to simply ignore or walk away from

Try thinking about this for more than a minute next time before coming to a retarded conclusion. Here's a hint: Your dreams are usually completely nonsensical yet you also usually don't question it and just go along with them. Now imagine someone's brain does the same thing yours does while you're dreaming, except it does this while they're awake, and they don't question their impossible delusional self-narratives of what's going on around them for the same reason you don't question your own impossible dream plots. Because it has nothing to do with how clever you are and everything to do with whether your brain happens to be operating in a way where absurd shit is interpreted as credible.

based af

Would lucid dreaming be the anti-thesis to schizophrenia?

I'm schizoid and my grandmother was schizoaffective so I am at a higher risk of it.

not really. it's a distortion in perception. it's not like you're on some sort of adventure.

I think there's something to that. If you were able to cultivate such a strong sense of ongoing awareness to the point where you always recognize you're dreaming whenever you dream, then it'd seem reasonable to me to suppose you'd similarly be less susceptible to delusional thinking while awake. Awareness might be something you can train like a muscle. I don't think you can think your way out of delusions / schizophrenia (and counterintuitively, rational thinking seems to be the main tool delusions, both in dreaming and in mental illness, make use of to get you to believe in absurd things in the first place), but you might be able to get better at distancing yourself from mental chatter and recognizing it for what it is.

No.

That said I don't know of anyone who actually recognizes every single dream they have as a dream. Even people who practice lucid dreaming pretty seriously tend to only have instances of lucidity a limited amount of the time, like once every couple of weeks if they're really good at it.

HI user. Please go see a psychiatrist/clinical psychologist and make those symptoms your bitch man. Good meds are a truly wonderful thing.

That's God telling you, as the representative of humanity to purge the rat-like Jews

>dude why don't depressed people just be happy lmao

>I don't think you can think your way out of delusions / schizophrenia

i agree. i also don't think being afflicted means one cannot be an intellectual. maybe not so much in a standard accelerated path, but just as much as being handicap doesn't always means one cannot attain some degree of sportsmanship whatever so be it.

also to add 2 cents, stay off the sauce and dabs or whatever you call it. self medication is all it is.

you're very insightful.

>i also don't think being afflicted means one cannot be an intellectual
If anything I think schizophrenia is more often a problem of being *too* intellectual e.g. John Nash. Those split brain experiments show that the "interpreter" left brain is both the source of verbal / rational thought as well as the source of bizarre delusions where it'll make up any ridiculous story it can piece together to try to justify the conflicting information between the two split hemispheres. In a way you have to turn away from the world as it is and towards the world as you think it must be rationally in order to have delusions in the first place. Delusions in this sense are ultra-reasonable, it's just that the reasons in question happen to not have much to do with reality.

I have schizophrenia. I read only when I don't hear voices.

Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is sSchizophrenia Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Ghosts Like Nigga Close Your Eyes Haha

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I've been avoiding schizophrenia for years by just assuming everyone I interact with is a hallucination.
>user, when are you going to stop playing video games and get a job?
>Heh, nice try hallucination-mom.

just in case you think schizophrenia isn't real. terry is one of /g/ memes. some people there actually use his software.

youtube.com/watch?v=TcqWok8AubE

kek i like you user

i wasn't ready to lol that hard. shit.

Fucking CIA niggers, thanks to based Terry for running them over

Under fucking rated

I often hear multiple different voices in my head, about 50% of them lie and the other 50% tell the truth. Of what I can discern from my internal voices the ones that don't like can tune me into a feeling as if some event is about to happen. The really trippy part is when the voices cement their place in reality by seamlessly becoming ambient conversations on the street. I've meditated on this for about a year now and so far the conclusion I've reached is: God is insane, intelligence comes from God, therefore all intelligent beings are insane.

I feel that duality is the cause of the madness, that and maybe exististental loneliness.

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Isn't this the best???

I've been called it but I don't believe it myself, I think people are just being jealous and generally spiteful.

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when I say 'people' I mean random turds on 4 Chan.

Are they multiple, separate instances? I've never once been called a schizophrenic here.

Multiple, but I think all on the same board (here?) I rant on too many boards to remember what where when

I don't know why you're asking anything about any sort of mental problems whilst Americans may be awake or around. Everything is autism to them, or it simply doesn't exist. Or, it is as it is on television shows.

For God's sake, most people think because they like things to look neat they're OCD.

I have no diagnosis of any kind, but I certainly wouldn't think of myself as a "neurotypical" individual. I often find myself drawing a lot of connections, the problem is that these connections often turn out false, but thanks to their property of being plentiful; they are sometimes close to what one might consider "truth". Because of this I'm more inclined to believe these connections than I should be, the effect of this is primarily social. I find it incredibly hard to trust people outside a small number of friends that I've grown up with, and that--to the point of absurdity--can not form meaningful connections with new people. As far as I can tell I look like anyone else, men and women alike are often eager to strike a conversation with me, but I do not feel safe in these moments; and pray that they be kept either very short or strictly professional. It does not impact my reading, it provides an escape from these connections I draw in the real world; I feel at ease.

Schizoaffective here
When I am in that schizo zone (hearing and seeing shit) I can barely read because letters are alien and have hidden messages in them. Words and letters take on different and often nefarious meanings.
I have found that lucid dreaming can be helpful in separating a state in which the brain is in control and when sensory input is in control. I was recommended lucid dreaming by one of my psychiatrists a few years ago when I had night terrors, it has helped a lot.

too many wild presumptions. why are you basing everything on wild unfounded presumptions?

Same faggot

What is one criterion separating the mentally ill from the healthy?

I have schizophrenia, in general no it doesn't impact my reading unless im in the ''schizo zone'' like said

My life is otherwise pretty miserable, i follow a routine to minimise stress to prevent me having an episode as much as possible.

on a side note are there any good depictions of schizophrenia in fiction?

lmao the amount of people getting aggro over this joke is embarrassing

I'm bipolar/schizoaffective/schizophrenic. First the diagnosis was schizophrenia but they think it might be bipolar instead. It does not affect me unless I go psychotic which has only happened twice. I have almost no hallucinations. But I have this going on:
>Words and letters take on different and often nefarious meanings.

During psychotic episodes I have sent a couple of emails declaring myself king, and calls for revolution. In another I wanted to change the world and become the Nietzschean overman.

If im planning to write a book about the schizophrenic experience what books should I take inspiration from?

Everybody who'd find it difficult to read with ADHD would also find it difficult to read without it. ADHD makes it very hard to do things you don't like, but only has minor effects on things you do like.

Lars?

None of this sounds too serious. Many of my non-neurotic friends have heard voices while under the influence of various drugs, I don't think it's indicative of any further diagnosis. As for killing yourself, ;p cool I guess.
I suffer from both OCD and paranoid schizophrenia. I often see figures while driving home after school, only to look back and realize they weren't there. I can't go out at night without being subsumed by terrible anxiety. I often feel like cars are following me and I end up doing many laps around my neighborhood before going home. I lock all my doors multiple times and sleep with multiple flashlights and car keys in my bed (to sound an alarm if someone breaks in); I put tape over all my electronics and microphones when Im not using them; I cover my windows because I feel like my neighbors are watching me; I wrap bands around the bottoms of my pants and ends of my sleeves so bugs cant crawl in and bite my skin; I don't enjoy eating food made by people I don't know and often feel the need to puke it up after; etc, etc.
Studying is hard but it rewarding. It is my only escape. I do not wish to kill myself as my natural inclination leaves me desiring the consumption of history/philosophy/science.

Schizophrenia is an EGO problem. The aliens picked ME. The CIA are after ME. The chosen one to unveil the reptile people is ME. It's a retainment of the delusions of grandeur of children.

Yeah dude just turn your brain off u are thinkin too much hahaha silly schizos

I am correct. Exhibit A:

Don't compare me to other schizos, I stand above them as you should now

>now
This should be know of course, stupid sounds

>minimise stress
cannot be overstated. learn not to give a fuck without being an asshole.

If I have people I know next to me I hear them having a conversation but none of them are actually speaking is this schizophrenia it mostly happens when a group tries to sleep in a room.

not him but i would say those are auditory hallucinations.

>It's like talking to Cleverbot or something, but even more uncanny.
I have a schizophrenic uncle, and this is a good description in my opinion. It's sad because sometimes he shows glimpses of the person he used to be, when talking about subjects he liked to study, but most of the time he's talking to himself and very often displaying heart-breaking anguish. Our greetings play out robotically, and it's hard to get a conversation going.
Honestly I'm worried something like that might happen to me some day, because there is no means for other people to connect or help them, aside from medication.

t. Charles Xavier

please demonstrate to me the foundation for your assumptions

sometimes your brain rearranges noise into patterns, sometimes those patterns are speech. This happens to me but only if there is an active noisy thing on and I hear the speech beforehand

>I go into shower, parents are speaking
>shower is going on and I think i'm detecting speech
>i get out and my parents have been silent for a while

>my parents have been silent for a while
How do you know?

i have bpd. doesnt affect my reading much. affects my personal relationships

>I lock all my doors multiple times and sleep with multiple flashlights and car keys in my bed (to sound an alarm if someone breaks in); I put tape over all my electronics and microphones when Im not using them; I cover my windows because I feel like my neighbors are watching me; I wrap bands around the bottoms of my pants and ends of my sleeves so bugs cant crawl in and bite my skin; I don't enjoy eating food made by people I don't know and often feel the need to puke it up after; etc, etc.
Fuck. That reminds me of the start of a Scanner Darkly. Sorry about your condition user

They're not presumptions, I understand our creator as a childish being who willingly went to sleep to escape the reality of, being evil and being alone. God also has a massive fucking ego but why wouldn't you if you knew you were always right? In the mythologies of Christianity the Devil and God are the same entity and from the gnostic perspective the Demiurge exists but is the same entity as the Monad.

I've asked them before, or they went to do other activities almost right after i entered the shower despite me hearing them the whole way through.

Also, when i thought i was "hearing speech" I kept trying to make out what it was, but it would be like a series of tiny "flashes" that hit the right tones and frequences but didn't seem to make any actual sense. Almost as if some of shower sounds managed to hit the right frequencies for half a second and engage my "speech listening"

>stop generalizing!
>stop using concepts!
>stop using language!

>How many here has schizophrenia?
Just schizoid.

>Does it affect your reading?
I feel like I'm above averagely skilled into escaping into fantasy worlds both of my own making and those of authors to the degree that I barely crave real life or even tend to prefer simulations.

Unironically this.

Not always.

>implying any of us are living "real life" in >2017
go deeper

Nah man I lucid dream at least 5 times a week