"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need"

Because he who is able to provide is inherently a product of charity.

Capitalism is a compromise not a solution and should be able to change to the times

Ironic since the same jews ended up starving millions of Ukrainians to death during the Holodomer.

This isn't true in any period of human existence ever. Are you talking like families, the biological imperative, which really isn't even completely imperative? Because I'm pretty sure Uk-Uk wasn't a product of charity, he massacred some saber tooth tigers and probably gave some meat to Cuck-Cuck who didn't do shit and was useless to the tribe.

What you said is absurd in any more recent part of history.

You're under the assumption that people automatically fall into 2 categories: those who can and those who can't. In reality people alternate between those two greatly generalized groups throughout their lives.

I'm under the assumption that those who can and are willing deserve more than those who can't, or those who can and are not willing.

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How many people should I care for, user? All of them?

cuz you shouldn't care about others

As many as you can, but more than you currently do

Fuck off, faggot.

I interpret it as the premise that society should be completely voluntary but run by this notion. Humans must develop so that they voluntarily work to make society better, and thus receive the goods necessary for life and happiness without need to question their efforts. Only then can a socialist civilization function effectively.

This is also why communist revolutions have never worked in history. Revolutions cannot achieve a society without hierarchy, as those social movements are inherently authoritarian because they are naturally aimed at establishing a new state or upper class. The world must essentially evolve. Before any other liberation, the human mind must free itself.

Should I care for all people equally then? I would love to help my mum financially but I'm supposed to distribute some cash to the guy nodding his ass off and selling his mums furniture for black tar and oxys.

Sure, that's how charity works, nothing wrong with helping someone in involuntary need.

because you rely and have relied on others

history is a real thing - no man is "self-created"

Incorrect, you got spooked

seriously
why is Veeky Forums so full of cucks?

if you think communism or even socialism is a good idea after the 20th century you are a disgusting piece of shit
fucking kill yourselves

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>Sure, that's how charity works, nothing wrong with helping someone in involuntary need.

Yeah, except it can't just take place in a capitalist society. It must be core to the way a society functions.

I might change my mind if you give an actual good argument, user.

socialism has never worked and does not benefit the working class
I come from a working class background, and there's two things working class people want.
more jobs and less immigrants. socialism takes away jobs, but it does get rid of immigrants since no one wants to live in your country anymore.

idk how anyone can possibly claim that socialism works let alone claim it to be superior to capitalism. capitalism is not the same as it was in the 19th century, it has improved and it has improved the lives of the working class with it.

>there's two things working class people want.
lol. working class communities are largely immigrant communities my dude.

t.lives in a working class neighbourhood

anybody who still believes this "moar jobs" meme is straight up retarded. robots can do pretty much everything important. america is shitting on all the technologies that are relevant (electric cars, renewable energy, infrastructure that isn't shit) for the sake of worthless jobs. poor people don't need to do some bullshit made up job that doesn't help anybody.

poor people need money. give them money. rich people have too much money. take the money from them. it's not so fucking complicated.

>If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/.

>muh stirner

just a shittier nietzsche

they don't belong there
they have to go back
they are taking away what little the working class have

and you wonder why working class whites resort to white nationalism? you will never get it will you

thank you for telling me what i need you disgusting middle class socialist

this is not how the world works and you are fucking delusional
why are you not in Venezuela right now? was that not real communism?

Nice identity politics.

Why is it always the outlier with you people? It's the same excuse I hear over and over about "oh i'm not giving to the homeless because they'll use it on drugs dah dah dah". Don't spout such crock if you were never intending to do anything regardless. Half the homeless are on the spectrum or delirious vets with no living relatives, searching for help in any form. Yes, there are people who take advantage of social welfare, but this is a far minority, and charity should not be cast aside holistically because you want to validate your selfishness. Fuck.
Your argument is weak. The working class doesn't know what it wants, its interests are mundane and belied by the higher class in their constant exploitation of blue-collar gullibility. Modern capitalism has solved very little aside from the consumption and production of goods (which are always becoming marginally more and more valueless), and alongside that, it has perpetrated more evils; in the buildup of secularism, technocracy, worthless engendered egoism, and constant third-world exploitation. We're marching towards a tech-nified reopening of the dark ages, every step a cacophony of incoherent babble by brash, unrepentant Americans who are all too willing to march to the to and fro of whatever insipid, spurious tune is being blasted in their eardrums.

>you will never get it will you
lol. most immigrants are white where I'm from. Czechs, Poles, Greeks, Ukrainians etc. what a silly person you are.

>take the money from them

Essence of leftism right here. And you know they'll re-define who is rich or not, as the dumbass did above who defines working class areas as co-extensive with immigrant areas. As much as the Chapo-fags try to deride id-politics and socjus, you'll always use it as a means to your ends. Just like the communists in the 1920-30s did with American blacks. Leftism is straight up banditry and ethno-gang warfare exemplified by actual bandits like Stalin. No amount of merlot-drinking quibbling from hipster vanguardists can hide this.

Because cucks who are afraid to work.

If everyone gets an assurance that they'll be taken care of they won't apply themselves to anything. Competition for limited resources is the most civil way to keep people motivated throughout their lives. And pretty much the entire western world follows this principal to some degree and it's working out horribly. Social Security programs are 40% taking care of the needy and 60% subsidising extremely anti-social behaviour.

If we follow the greentext principal to the letter what's to stop some deadbeat whore from shitting out 15 kids to 15 different fathers and setting herself up for life? 'Whoops, now I have no ability to work and lots of need for gibs. gibsmedat mony working man, Khaleesi needs diapers."

>capitalism hasn't improved the lives of the working class
is this literally what you are saying?

fuck off open borders cunt

people don't like poles in the UK m8 idk where you're from maybe germany? explains why you're such a pathetic cuck

have you ever in your entire lives met a working class communist? all your problems are meta physical. Ours are physical problems. In any event of a communist takeover it will be you that ends up with a bullet to the head in any case. you will be seen as the enemy. because that's what you are now and in all situations.

No, not literally. Practically. Improved in what facet? That we have access to more material goods? Foolish. Medical care in this country is a disaster, the food available is largely shit, it's hard to find a place without a drug epidemic going on, but i'm super stoked that I can get the latest I phone 6951345 as soon as it comes around.

Your problems are as physical as they are mental, (hint hint, like the rest of us) but you don't have the ability to address either. You're going to be one of those 30 year olds in a bar talking down on the younger generation because they just don't "get" property rights. And stop using cuck as an insult because you can't use an array of words larger than what you get milled to you lurking through Veeky Forums.

Yes, unions are full of them.

>it's a redditor newfag exposes himself by assuming Veeky Forums hasn't always been overwhelmingly right wing
You have to go back

you fucking cuck do you really think medical care is better in communist countries? yeah it's hard to find a communist country without a nationwide food shortage
why don't you go tell those eastern european immigrants about the great quest of communism I bet they wish they could live in a communist country

nope, unions are full of exclusively middle class public sector workers, try again cuck

Capitalism created the working class.
>have you ever in your entire lives met a working class communist?
Yes, I've met my brother.

I'd rather go to hospital in Cuba than in the US

>claims working class
>thinks unions are full of middle class

Glad you dropped the false pretence. Working class my ass

Why don't you go to the former soviet states and tell them how awesome capitalism is.

wow your brother must be very cucked
probably a useless piece of shit just like you

now this is actually retarded anyone who believes this meme does not know what they are talking about cuba has an awful healthcare system because they have no money because communism

His children look an awful lot like him for a cuck.

Cuba has very good health care, so much so that countries from around the world offer Cuban doctors work visas

well they do think capitalism is great it has vastly improved their lives

i work on a farm
hard work that you would not be able to do

I've worked on farms before. Keep larping though.

ok vox.com

shame he reproduced
no worry anyway, his children will likely get BLACKED since he is a pathetic communist and will not install good values and then his grandchildren will be reduced to animals (niggers)

>it has vastly improved their lives
In what ways and according to what sources?

Not an argument

they are no longer starving
they don't get sent to gulag for thoughtcrimes
they are free

but i'm not a cuck either so who's really winning here? (not you)

Also not an argument. Got any refuting Cuban doctors or are you done?

I'm sorry you're having trouble getting food, user. Have you tried getting a job instead of shitposting a literal failed ideology on a malaysian stick figure matte painting website?

what have you won?

These aren't counter-arguments. Why do Commies always do this? How about being retro and doing a whataboutism?

youtube.com/watch?v=25_RgM1jHeo

>
Russia has suffered democratic backsliding during Putin's tenure. Freedom House has listed Russia as being "not free" since 2005.[8] In 2004, Freedom House warned that Russia's "retreat from freedom marks a low point not registered since 1989, when the country was part of the Soviet Union."[9] Alvaro Gil-Robles (then head of the Council of Europe human rights division) stated in 2004 that "the fledgling Russian democracy is still, of course, far from perfect, but its existence and its successes cannot be denied."[10] The Economist Intelligence Unit has rated Russia as "authoritarian" since 2011,[11] whereas it had previously been considered a "hybrid regime" (with "some form of democratic government" in place) as late as 2007.[12] According to political scientist, Larry Diamond, writing in 2015, "no serious scholar would consider Russia today a democracy".[13]
>According to Human Rights Watch, "Turkmenistan remains one of the world’s most repressive countries. The country is virtually closed to independent scrutiny, media and religious freedoms are subject to draconian restrictions, and human rights defenders and other activists face the constant threat of government reprisal."

So you're done? Cool.

How does one go about refuting nothing?

Not an argument.

Fake news.

i can assure you that very few Russians want a return to communism you are an absolutely delusional cuck if you think this

aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2012/06/201265115527622647.html

here's one from a left wing outlet then

>they don't get sent to gulag for thoughtcrimes
>they are free

Qatar funded fake news. I bet you also like tyt lol what a low key cuck

why is Veeky Forums so full of cucks?

Do I have to repeat what I stated in my first argument? My view on socialism (a very general term, by the way. I think you're defining it too specifically as a direct response to capitalism.) is that it can work only if humanity develops and becomes more enlightened, essentially. It must be able to self-sustain without a government.

the problem with communism is that there is no longer any real drive for the average person as they merely rely on the state which makes them fail to understand the importance of their work and if it seems as though it's failing they are further demoralised and disconnected. It gives no incentive to be more productive and those who are aren't directly rewarded.

no I like infowars thank you

meant to drop trip (for another board)

So let's nationalize the farms

for what purpose?
your feels cuck?

Man you really love fake news wew lad

sup reddit

you know, at any point you can choose to stop being a communist
why don't you just cut it out
it's not good for anyone
you're not helping anyone
you could make a good decision today

There are a disproportionate amount of jews controlling the media, however I believe it's because the average ashkenazi jew is much brighter than the average american (iq difference) which is why they are in more positions of power and more of them are nobel prize winners. I don't think they have any malicious intentions outside possibly nepotism though.

what's your point?

unions are littered with middle class you fucking moron, the average union worker makes more than most small business owners

Well you haven't killed yourself yet so we can't always get what we want.

why would you say that?
i just want you to stop being a cuck man :(

I love literature.

What a cuck.

l check out this larping idiot

if you uncuck the cuck do you become the cuck?
what a sad thought

Freedom of the individual was only allowed to grow due to capitalism.

No one is forcing you to spend your money on dumb material goods. No one is forcing you to take drugs and ruin your life.

Communism's promise of freedom is just a meme, no matter what you do work or not, your livelihood will be indebted to the state.

I don't make the cuck rules my dude

Killing a few jews is not a problem.

alas, there will be no uncucking today
you will have to remain cucked until something from within wakes you up from your cucksleep

I hope you uncuck yourself soon user, i mean it

Not before you

why isn't this on pol?

Because you can say people don't need 90% of their wants and still take their money. You do like robbing bourgeoisie don't you, comrade?

the thing your image says about jews subverting Russia is just capitalism at work though

Honestly don't get why the concept that people think a society of fiefdoms run by domineers is the most just way of societal organization