Hey you fucking faggots. If you were forced to only keep 5 boooks for the rest of your life, and you could only read these fucking five. Which would them be?
For me it would be:
1-The Bible 2-Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus by Master Wittgenstein 3-The Imitation of Christ by Thomas Kempis 4-The Dao de Ching 5-The Meditations by Marcus Aurelius
Ulysses Infinite Jest Gravity's Rainbow KJV Bible Sun & Steel
Nathaniel Young
>Infinite Jest
cringe.
Lucas Brooks
Welcome to the water kid, heh
Aiden Ross
>The Dao de Ching >dao
How dare you try and pronounce it correctly
Zachary Rivera
>How dare you try and pronounce it correctly
Yeah, I',m not a fucking faggot who pronounces it "Tao". Like those faggots who know nothing about Daoism.
Bentley Howard
Narrative of Freddy D The Tragedy of Dolores Hayes Goddam Phonies, a memoir Goodnight Noises Everywhere Tauw Tay Chang
Anthony Morales
1. The Complete Corpus of Western Literature 2. The Complete Corpus of Eastern Literature 3. The Complete Corpus of Middle Eastern Literature 4. The Ego and Its Own 5. Lolita
Mason Edwards
Bible, DC, Grande Sertão Veredas, In the Labyrinth, Faust (if I can't have both parts I'd prefer Phaedra). >Tao te Ching >Meditations user you fucked the list up in the middle.
Isaiah Wood
>Yeah, I',m not a fucking faggot
I got bad news for u OP
Jordan Phillips
4. The Ego and Its Own 5. Lolita
Meme books
>Grande Sertão Veredas
Tu es brasileiro, mano?
Fuck off.
Liam King
Actually read Ego and Its Own
Caleb Evans
I have it but never read it fully. I picked it up and saw that it was completely uncomprehensible and utter gibberish. Laid it down. Fuck off, that book is so thrash it's not even worth reading. People only care about it because of "muh Stirner", "muh Spook".
Caleb Peterson
1. Complete works of Plato 2. Making It Explicit 3.Critique of Pure Reason 4. Phenomenology of Spirit 5. Philosophical Investigations
Leo Anderson
>meme booms OP IS A FAGGOT likes dick in his mouth homosexual butt plugger plunging into he secret depths of his boyfriends asshole op is gaygaygay likes to imagine his favorite books with penises cumming on his face spelling out his highlighted favorite quotes, his most favorite "the day I come out of the closet will be the happiest day of my life" and who could forget "the metaphysics of cocksucking" your gay homo like dick in your mouth
Dominic Rogers
>ele realmente pergunta. És o OP, viado?
Hunter Rogers
The Iliad/Odyssey Combo A good history textbook An anthology of Poems Complete Shakespeare Moby-Dick, or the whale
William Morris
Who cares why people care about it? It's good philosophy that completely changed Marx from being a beta humanist to a materialist
Carter Gomez
Embarrassing post
Chase Diaz
>És o OP, viado?
Sou o OP sim porra. Era um ateu viadao ate ter uma crise existencial aos 20 anos e me tornar completamente religioso e devoto.
Hudson Bell
>he'd waste one slot so he doesn't need wikipedia
Connor Wright
Ha viado, eu tive a crise aos quinze. Como eu sempre digo, "não é sedevacantismo se você diz que o Ratzinger ainda é o Papa'.
Sebastian Jackson
Patrician taste m8. But why "Philosophical Investigations Meme" instead of the obviously superior Tractatus ?
Hudson Ortiz
1. Plato: Complete Works 2. Aristotle: Complete Works 3. Plotinus: Complete Works 4. Iamblichus: Complete Works 5. Proclus: Complete Works
Charles Kelly
Ay m8. Why only the greeks man.
David Russell
I'm hovering below a pass in my logic course and I must say I'm starting to become more Conti
Bentley Peterson
>if I just turn them into a meme with a shitgraph maybe their irrefutable implications will go away
Juan Parker
>their irrefutable implications will go away
Like what m8?
Xavier Gonzalez
5 good cookbooks on 5 different cuisines
Thomas Torres
All anal-lytics are permas
Jayden Reed
Like... your a huge flaming faggot who like dick in or around his mouth hahhaahahahha
Jace James
Like your spooked by language >omg guys if p=e then ni+s... omg this amazing
Wyatt Johnson
WOW... Is this the power of continental philosophy argumentation?
Thomas Jackson
O que te fez ter um entendimento religioso sobre a sua vida? Confesso que quero conseguir entender mais sobre religioes, principalmente o catolicismo. Não sei se simplesmente lendo St. Agostinho, Aquino e a Biblia eu vou conseguir ter essa transação espiritual e intelectual.
Oliver White
O que me fez me interessar foi por que eu lia muito Wittgenstein e sobre sua vida, e a sua percepcao religiosa, dai fui ler um pouco de Kierkegaard (St. Agostinho e Aquino nao vao te convencer porra nenhuma) e sobre o existencialismo cristao (Kierkegaard, Thomas Merton, Thomas Kempis etc). A coisa que me fez convencer nao foi que algum destes autores possam PROVAR que Deus exista. Eles so argumentam que nao se pode saber se existe, mas eh melhor acreditar do que nao acreditar (por motivos psicologicos e existenciais) etc.
A coisa eh que a Biblia so pode te fazer sentir melhor e te dar inspiracao depois que vc ja esta convencido do cristianismo e seu merito. Simplesmente le-lo nao vai te tornar cristao. A fim que vc vire realmente cristao, primeiro vc tem que ler os mais recentes filosofos do crisitianismo. Eu gosto muito de Tolstoy (O reino de Deus esta em vos) e o melhor dele que eh o "The Gospel in Brief". Depois de ler estes escritores, vc passa parar de se questionar se Deus existe ou nao, e percepe que isso nao importa, o que importa eh acreditar, mesmo que exista ou nao. Isso se chama fe.
Hudson Gomez
I don't understand the pants.
Tyler Morgan
Srs tho wat r u saying
Austin Clark
Kierkegaard é outro filósofo que tenho muito interesse em ler. Mas não sei se é necessário ter algum contexto anterior com outros autores. Já leu St. Agostinho e Aquino?
John Martin
Oh. So you speak only a single language, don't you?
Samuel Hall
I speak Dari and German and Chad
Dylan Scott
Eu acordei um dia e a fé tava lá. Anônimos acreditando em Deus por motivos lógicos ou benefício próprios são uns bostas.
David Cook
>Eu acordei um dia e a fé tava lá. Anônimos acreditando em Deus por motivos lógicos ou benefício próprios são uns bostas.
Esse nao eh o OP. O OP sou eu.
Kierkegaard eh interessante mas muito do seu trabalho pode ser incompreensivel para vc. Isso e porque ele escreve apenas sobre pseudonimos e eh muitas vezes contraditorio. Um resumo da internet no Stanford Encyclopedia pode ser mais compreensivel e logico que ler o proprio livro do Kierkegaard, mas se vc for ler, comeca com Fear and Trembling.
>Já leu St. Agostinho e Aquino?
Aquino nao. St. Agostinho, sim. Mais ou menos metade das confessoes, nao vale muito apena ler, porque parece mais uma autobiografia do que um trabalho puramente religioso em si. Eu recomendo comecar com "The Gospel in Brief" do Leo Tolstoy que eh curtinho e vai direto ao ponto. Muitas vezes nao gostamos da ideia de virar catolico por causa dos dogmas ou das bobagens que a igreja faz. Tolstoy escreve sobre isso e como a Igreja so faz bosta e devemos acreditar em Cristo de uma maneira nao-denominacional.
O unico motivo que o cristianismo aqui eh uma bosta no Brasil eh por causa dos normies cristaos que alegam ser religiosos mas nao fazem porra nenhuma, e se fazem, so fazem o mal. O cristianismo eh quase perfeito, foram soh os fdp dos normies que arruinaram.
Daniel Clark
Como alguém tão culto como você pode escrever de forma tão juvenil?
Xavier Lopez
>Como alguém tão culto como você pode escrever de forma tão juvenil?
Eh porque eu soh leio em ingles e acabei deixando o meu portugues mal-desenvolvido. Eh uma bosta. Literalmente soh leio livros em ingles, e tambem porque o meu PC eh estrangeiro e nao eh teclado brasileiro e nao tem acento, da pra mudar soh que sou um bosta e deixo assim pra ficar mais de digitar em ingles.
Luis Harris
Because PI is about sex and the tractatus is about god.
But really it's because PI is better at activating the creative philosophical part of my thinking. TLP is a good prayer
Nathaniel Nelson
>Confissões de Santo Agostinho >Não vale a pena Retardado de alto nível. Tolstói é tão cristão quanto eu sou o arcebispo, pau no seu cu. O cristianismo não é quase perfeito, ele é a verdade.
Jonathan Cox
Va se fuder mano. Toma voce no seu cu, viado. Aposto que vc nem leu as confissoes e nem sabe que Tolstoy era ativista e religioso. Va chupa um pau, puta. Pensa antes de falar, vadia.
Easton Lewis
>do leo tolstoy
Puta que pariu como eu odeia essa merda de artigo definido antes de nome próprio, especialmente quando as pessoas se referem a pessoas eminentes.
Jacob Anderson
>Because PI is about sex
What do you mean, m8?
Jeremiah Nelson
Va toma no cu.
Lucas Perry
Gravity's Rainbow. Mason and Dixon Sound and the Fury Don Quixote The Iliad
Camden Hughes
Patrician taste m8. But why no non-fiction?
Mason James
não sou o cara que tu marcou, mas o que mudou minha cabeça foi Dante. Eu fui um ateuzinho revoltado por vários anos, mais ou menos da sétima ao terceiro ano do ensino médio. Então comecei a usar minha cabeça e virei agnóstico. Já nessa época eu lurkava o /b/, até que um dia decidi visitar o Veeky Forums. Apesar da ausência de fé, sempre tive interesse em religiões, especialmente cristianismo/catolicismo, então depois de algum tempo nesse board comprei a divina comédia. Mesmo sem entender 90% das referências (não sabia nem quem Virgílio ou Ulysses eram) eu fiquei fascinado, e desde então Dante basicamente me forçou a ler literatura, filosofia e teologia (porém comecei a ler Platão agora [ainda estou lendo as peças gregas, estou no Sophocles, e ainda me falta ler Herodotus, Thucydides e Euclides] e estou no fim do antigo testamento, então nem me preocupei em começar a ler teologia). Quando terminar a Bíblia e os livros mais importantes de Aristóteles vou ter com teologia.
>Não sei se simplesmente lendo St. Agostinho, Aquino e a Biblia eu vou conseguir ter essa transação espiritual e intelectual. Mais importante que ler esses caras, é o que tu acredita. Se você não quiser acreditar, tu pode ler o que quiser, não vai acreditar. Recomendo altamente ler literatura """"católica"""", como divina comédia, pilgrim's progress, as confissões de Santo Agostinho (ele fala da juventude dele, antes de se tornar cristão, então é fácil de se identificar com ele). Quanto ao Aquino, recomendo que tu leia "The concise summa", que é uma versão reduzida, de ~400 páginas, escrita pelo próprio Aquino.
>Aquino nao. St. Agostinho, sim. Mais ou menos metade das confessoes, nao vale muito apena ler, porque parece mais uma autobiografia do que um trabalho puramente religioso em si. Literalmente um mocorongo. É óbvio que é uma auto-biografia, e o fato de que tu começou a ler ela sem saber do que se tratava prova que tu é retardado.
>foram soh os fdp dos normies que arruinaram. t. Fellow que em pleno board de literatura digita feito um traficante usando o Orkut
Jordan Reyes
Esqueci de marcar o mocorongo.
Adam Watson
E by the way, minha lista >ulysses >finnegans wake >bible >grande sertão: veredas >divine comedy
Xavier Harris
>É óbvio que é uma auto-biografia, e o fato de que tu começou a ler ela sem saber do que se tratava prova que tu é retardado.
Va toma no cu mano. Eh obvio que eu sabia que era uma autobiografia mas eu pensava que ele fosse falar de teologia tbm (que ele nao falou).
>>foram soh os fdp dos normies que arruinaram.
Va se fude, como vou escrever diferente se o meu teclado nao tem acento. Pau no seu cu.
Jose Turner
Rise and Fall of the 3rd Reich The Bible Infinite Jest The Recognitions Ulysses
Christian Hill
>Ulysses >The Bible >Infinite Jest
Is that a consensus on Veeky Forums?
Lincoln Perez
Va da o cu, vadia. Sai do meu board.
Sebastian Evans
kek
'tbm', 'fude', 'vc' é por falta de acento também?
Cameron Evans
Sinceramente, vc eh assim tao patetico que a unica coisa que vc consegue usar contra mim eh a maneira que eu digito no Veeky Forums onde a lingua franca eh o ingles? Vc eh assim tao retardado? Se vc nao tem nada a dizer, sai do meu board e se fode, ta bom?
Ian Parker
1-Corrupted Eye and Azenos. 2-Merlirot daerm 3-Polentia Artygora tharowita 4- Polonicus arefacit IV 5-idk maybe herb production book or something,
Lucas Jones
>Tolstói é tão cristão quanto eu sou o arcebispo, pau no seu cu.
Pensa antes de falar, vai, vadia?
Josiah Peterson
Fuck off.
Bentley Roberts
...
Hunter Brooks
o jeito que tu digita e o fato de que eu te tiltei tão hard com um reply mostra que tu não passa de uma criança. Vá viver um pouco a vida, vá sentir o cheiro de uma mulher, vá a um jogo de futebol com seu velho, e pare de se estressar com coisa tão mundana e insignificante como um post em um website anônimo de gibi japonês.
Se tu realmente leu Kierkegaard, Wittgenstein, Tosltoy e age dessa maneira tu literalmente não absorveu NADA, e se intitular cristão com toda essa paixão pelo próximo mostra o quão sério tu és.
Carter Edwards
> e pare de se estressar com coisa tão mundana e insignificante como um post em um website anônimo de gibi japonês.
hahahahha. Nao, eu nao me ofendo nada com essa porra. Eu so realmente quero que vcs parem de fuder com meu thread e falem alguma coisa importante ao inves de cagarem por todo o meu thread. Puta Merda, os brasileiros tao perdidos, vcs sao uns bostas. Quando eh um outro user se comporta direito ao inves de soh cagar. Entao, me faz um favor e sai logo deste thread e para de fazer reply que eu quero discutir com os outros anons. Se vc nao responder, eu tbm nao responde e fica tudo beleza. Ta bom assim, viado?
Ayden Carter
You browse /r9k/, Veeky Forums, Veeky Forums, and use opera? Holy fuck, you are my soulmate dude.
Michael Kelly
Thanks m8. At least you can behave yourself unlike those brazilian fucktards. Ugh, it's times like these that I'm ashamed that I was born in this shithole called Brazil
Lucas Martin
: ) tá aí meu post. discute aí.
>Quando eh um outro user se comporta direito ao inves de soh cagar >Se vc nao responder, eu tbm nao responde e fica tudo beleza não entendi nada.
Cameron Gray
Fuck off.
Elijah Rogers
Wew, lad. From this amount of butthurt and mutt mentality I sense you're from São Paulo.
Yup, yeah, I am. And I also sense that you're one of those other anons speaking in portuguese and now mascarading as another user.
Luis Diaz
IJ is a meme tho...
Xavier Gutierrez
The Bible (BHS/NA27) The Quixote The Karamazov Ficciones Solaris
Mason Morris
>Complete Nietzsche >Complete Shakespeare
>Meme Ulysses
Ugh, bad taste. You just go with the normalfag flow.
No shit.
I read the entire Karamazov Brothers and honestly it's one of the best novels you could find.(even when considering its flaws and literary shortcomings), but it's somewhat overrated, we must admit.
Jonathan Mitchell
>Meme Ulysses >Ugh, bad taste. You just go with the normalfag flow.
>bad taste >normalfag flow
>posts karamazov
retard
Kevin Nelson
1) The Ethics of Ambiguity - De Beauvoir 2) The Flowers of Evil - Baudelaire 3) Beautiful Losers - Choen 4) Illuminations - Benjamin (though Unpacking My Library may lose some personal significance as I usually read it every time I move and well unpack) 5) In Search of Lost Time - Proust (I figure I can have all 7 volumes seeing as some of you count the Bible as 1 book)
Lincoln Martin
>shakespeare >bad taste
Shakespeare still gets mentioned on here a lot; however, I've noticed fewer and fewer conversations about his actual works taking place. At any given time there are three threads focused more or less exclusively on Moby Dick, and much slighter writers than Melville, like Lovecraft, with none centered around Hamlet, Lear, Othello, Macbeth, the Tempest, Julius Caesar, Antony and Cleopatra, etc. I think this is a lamentable oversight, and shows a chasmic gap in Veeky Forums's sphere of concern. Joyce of the meme trilogy was OBSESSED with the Swan of Avon, and Infinite Jest is literally named after a line spoken by "Hamlet"'s eponymous protagonist. Everyone writes in his shadow, and anyone who writes worth a damn knows it, and either worships at his altar, drawing wisdom and poetry and inspiration from him as if from a fountain of Beauty itself, or else rejects him, and lives like a wilful sinner aware of God's existence, his omnipotence, his omniscience, but nevertheless unwilling to submit to him, his superior by infinite degrees, his father and creator.
Carson Gray
Literally know none of these books except for In search of lost time.
Have you honestly read that book on its entirety (all volumes) or are you just memeing?
Chase Roberts
Not even memeing. I have never read Shakespeare. Am I illiterate or do I just have bad taste?
Grayson Thompson
You don't have bad taste for not having read something. If you read Shakespeare and preferred just about anyone else over him, however, I would say you have non-ideal taste. He's the greatest writer in the language. You should read Shakespeare user. What kind of stuff do you usually like? I can recommend a corresponding play.
Colton Morales
A book consisting of the top 1 million places to download books for free including my private server.
Juan Bailey
part way through volume 1 he is so referenced in everything I read I figured it was time. It is also nice that I only have light electives left in my undergrad so I have time to spend on something longer.
Camden Ross
The Bible Analects of Confucius In Search of Lost Time Candide Code of the Woosters
Charles Scott
>What kind of stuff do you usually like?
Non-fiction and mainly existentialist, philosophical, or psychological thrillers and novels.
Camden Robinson
My Nigga. Good taste.
Jace Murphy
as pointed out, sometimes it just takes times to get to a certain author/book. tb h I've only read hamlet, and at the same time I want to read more shakespeare there are just too many books I want to read first.
thats not being illiterate, you can't read all authors, when you choose to read X author, you are "choosing not to read" (at least at that moment) hundreds of other great authors, so its a matter of subjective priority/taste/objective in reading.
but try some, his plays aren't usually long
John Evans
What's the difference though if I just read the plot on wikipedia. I am a lazy motherfucker and don't really like plays (Idk, I just find the narrative of novels more appealing to me). What matters is the plot though right?
What is so special about Shakespeare btw, what makes him so special specifically, his prose, his narrative, his writing, his plots? What exactly?
Josiah Gray
Read Hamlet, my dude. And take your time with it. If you haven't read Shakespeare you might do well to read a Sparknotes summary of scenes before you read them. I know that sounds pleb but it can help orient you well. Either that, or watch a film version of the play before you read it. Brannagh's Hamlet is good.
Hamlet is the supreme existentialist of Western literature. He and Kierkegaard are the gloomy, neurotic and poetical Danes that lay the bedrock for existentialist thought. It also has some murder mystery/murder plotting elements to it, as well as a ghost pregnant with figurative significance.
If you want another tragedy after that, read King Lear for Edward (esp as Tom O'Bedlam) and the Fool).
as I said, I've only read hamlet, but I've read quite a lot about shakespeare, so I am giving more other people's opinions on him than mine: first his writing, he masterfully used the english language, like few people in history did, every single word carefully chosen. his characters also, the way he depicted human nature, specially at that time, was unprecedented and beautiful. as bloom said, "[shakespeare not only] invented the English language, but created human nature as we know it today.”
if you don't like him, or plays, at all, well...best you could do is to actually try, as you said you haven't read any. if you still don't like it, just don't mind then, taste is subjective, but you will get lyinched for that opinion here heh
Easton Ortiz
Thanks user. I'm gonna check into it. (even though meme Shakespeare didn't write his plays, pic related did.)
Jack Allen
Shakespeare's plots are masterfully constructed so that all loose threads are sent out intriguingly and yet, in the end, come together in ways that seem inevitable, all without ever being predictable or obvious. He is one of the greatest plotters in literature, I think. But more significantly, his plots are are always driven by deep character motivations. Plot always arises out of character.
It's Shakespeare's characters and facility with language that have earned him his preeminence. Some philosophers have said that the entire history of Western philosophy is little more than a series of footnotes to Plato. What I take this to mean is that when you read through Plato's corpus, you will find that although many philosophers after him said many things that Plato himself never said, Plato nevertheless asked just about every major question that would ever engage any philosophers for the next two and a half millenia. It's like philosophy was this unexplored, uncharted territory, and then Plato came along, explored the whole thing, and mapped it out for future generations. Sure, he did not get all the landmarks he found exactly to scale. Sure, he didn't color everything exactly correctly on his map. Sure, some landmarks looked like one thing to him, but after two thousand years of analysis people began to realize that they were actually not as they appeared to Plato. But he still was the one who mapped out the essential territory of philosophy. He set out what questions it would be concerned with, how its mode of inquiry would proceed, etc., for every philosopher who might come after him
Shakespeare did this with human character/the human psyche. Each one of his hundreds of characters speaks with a unique voice, from a unique perspective, and has their own unique concerns. For every "type" you find in REALITY--the hero, the villain, the jealous husband, the pure wife, the conniving bitch, the enterprising seductress, the good son, the bad son--shakespeare has created usually a number of variations of it throughout his plays. Every essential permutation of human character made manifest in reality is made manifest somewhere in his plays. Every person you know (and you yourself) was already thought up by him and penned down somewhere in his corpus, long before you and everyone you know were born. Literally no other author comes close to his ability for make real people out of words, and I doubt anyone understood human beings better than he.
Luke Barnes
When it comes to his supremacy as a stylist, as a poet, there a bunch of angles I could take. One angle might be to talk about how so many of his neologisms and poetical phrases have become household words and phrases in our language. We speak through Shakespeare's language every day. This should serve as evidence enough of a poet's ability qua poet: he literally changed the way the most widely spoken language on the planet is spoken in innumerable ways.
A more interesting approach is to look at his ability as a poet in conjunction with his ability to create real, living, breathing human beings out of words. His similes and metaphors are among the best in the Western Canon, sure. His experimentation with figurative language and story form paved the way for everyone who came after him, yes...okay. But Shakespeare puts his preternatural affinity for language in the service of his characters. Imagine what the inner world is like of the people you see on a daily basis: your mom, your dad, the grocery store clerk, the university professor, the handicapped man asking you for change. Most of these people don't have the right words to express the pure form and essence of who they truly are. In rare moments of clarity, your dad says or does something off the cuff that is just so perfectly "him", and if you could bottle that up and give it to other people, they would know exactly what kind of person your dad is like. Imagine a dude who could capture those essences, and give them form by rendering them in the most beautiful poetry ever written down. In shakespeare, the grave-digger and the bawd still speak like a grave-digger and a bawd. You would never read them and mistake them for anything else. In fact, they speak more like a grave-digger and a bawd than any you would be likely to meet in real life. If you met a real grave-digger, he would seem to you less of a "true" "pure" "essential" grave-digger than shakespeare's version. As if reality could not but fall short of Shakespeare"s vision. Moreover, each of these characters speak in a poetry of a quality you and I could never dream of creating, and seem to speak it naturally. This to me is the craziest thing about Shakespeare. People more real than real people, speaking in ways that illuminate who they essentially are, and doing all this in the most beautiful language any of us is likely ever to come across.
But as you can imagine I could wax on indefinitely about him.