Any books on the ethical questions surrounding prostitution?

Your favorite writers probably fucked hos too. Commodifying sex might be unhealthy and could portend bad things when it becomes a societal norm, but individual occurrences aren't the end of the world. It's like drugs.

why would you care about that? just enjoy yourself

>The Sailor who fell from grace with the Sea
i dont remember prostitution in that.

I'd just find it hard to enjoy myself if I knew the other person didn't enjoy herself or find me attractive.

But he raped his sister, Phoebe

The Royal Family by Vollman.

It's a fucking tome (like his books tend to be), but pretty rad and written with basically the same motivation as you.

I lost my virginity to a prostitute when I was 16, and she didn't seem repulsed, so maybe she was just a great actress. But she made me feel at home, I was quite nervous but she was welcoming and relaxed, made me feel like it was okay. But I still couldn't finish, so when the hour was over I went home and finished there.

i did too, but at 25. i regret waiting so long and declining for being nervous to sluts previously

Having sex with nervous teenage boys is probably the easiest part of their job.

there are some girls who get into porn/prostitution because they're addicted to sex. you'll usually find them in affluent neighborhoods of your city. they also do some screening with their clients and won't bang just anyone willing to pay for it

Can anyone tell me of some writers who used to fuck prostitutes? Preferably from the 18th century beginning of the 20th century.

>Crime and Punishment
Came in to post this

Nietzsche.
Proust.
Joyce.

Honestly, all of them.

from that time period? all of them

Everyone did back then. Prostitutes weren't taboo like they are today.

>Prostitutes weren't taboo like they are today.
How did we go backwards in this? I thought we were more sexually permissive now than we were back then?

Sir Isaac Newton and Sigmund Freud are the only 2 that did not fuck prostitutes. Newton was gay and Freud smoked cigars.

that just makes me more erect

>women got more power
>prostitutes go against the interest of civilians and the monopoly of sex
>women shame men who go to prostitutes, wks follow along

>backwards

>to smart too have sex
>brainlets call you a fag for it

The systems of abuse that prostitution allows are why it has changed. Sex with people that you don't need to pay for is easily available and socially permissible now though.

A combination of casual sex becoming easier to get for free meant that people started associating prostitutes with losers who couldn't get laid (which made it easier to create moral legislation that banned it), and women shaming them in order to ensure that the value of their sexuality isn't diminished by easily-available sex.

>The systems of abuse that prostitution allows
The abuse arises out of its legal status. If it's regulated and legalized, then you'd choke the illegal abusive market and replace it with something better.

>ITT degens that lost their virginity to roasties for money and want to self-justify fornication
>tfw Veeky Forums is the kernel of corn on the brown log and people like this are how you know that kernel is contaminated

That's a myth
papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1986065

not that other user. but I've already read this paper and they say very clearly that the numbers aren't enough to estabilish a clear causation between regulation and the increase of human trafficking. you only need better regulations to deal with the problem, e.g. australia and legalized brothels

That study doesn't demonstrate cause. Countries that lack a legal apparatus to criminalize prostitution also lack a legal apparatus to criminalize human trafficking. The two correlate because the two are the result of the same phenomenon: a corrupt, ineffectual government.

this
some countries with the least human trafficking have fully legalized, regulated prostitution

It makes a pretty strong case with its case studies of Sweden and Germany matching its quantitative analysis. Really the cost vs benefit that deserves examining is the sex worker's benefit from regulation vs the profit criminal elements make off of the sex workers.

Not to get all /pol/, but Sweden and Germany have large Muslim populations that can affect the numbers. Human trafficking is a cultural phenomenon more than anything else.

> (OP)
> 'Degeneracy' is not a real thing!
someone didnt do their QM homework.
proving the existence of degeneracy is baby-tier shit as there would be a fuckload less entropy if it didnt exist

If a prostitute turns down a client because said client is ugly/gay/different race, could this be grounds for business discrimination?

It obviously wasn't necessarily a Muslim "cultural phenomenon". In Sweden they had a reduction of sex trafficking and a shrinking of the prostitution market after criminalization.

Holy shit, a post recommending books, all of which I've read. Am I finally becoming Veeky Forumserate?

enjoy you're aids

Enjoy your user

I love it.
I think visiting a woman and controlling her body with something as abstract as money is the ultimate existential act. Either that or I really need to stop listning to deep house mixes on youtube all night.

You are a retard. Woman then were less available . The sexual revolution gave woman more worth but this degraded then(all of them, not just the prostitutes).

probably when women got the vote, they didn't want their husbands going to whore houses anymore, and they also passed prohibition around the same the time

>porn is legal
>prostitution is not

Explain this

only makes me harder desu

americans are fucking retarded

It's legal in Nevada - - all but two counties, I believe

>100 people getting AIDS vs. 1000000 people getting AIDS

>prostitution
>the most ancient profesion
>degenerate

In most countries it's legal and nobody bothers with it.

>want to find out if that makes me a degenerate
no just a loser

newton was volcel dingus

>Human trafficking is a cultural phenomenon more than anything else.
Sex trafficking in Europe is mostly slavs, africans and Sudacas. Muslims aren't really involved in drugs or prostitute trafficking. They do other shit though

>I thought we were more sexually permissive now than we were back then?
I hate when people believe stuff like this. Myths like this get abused by (American) liberals all the fucking time to push retarded nonsense.

No, there were times in the past where we were much more sexually permissive. The hippie era of the 60s and 70s had things that aren't even imaginable nowadays.
But most importantly people didn't make a big deal out of sexuality and didn't link it to various identities ("I have some weird sex fetishes, now give me a special pronoun and my own bathroom").

Women never find men attractive or enjoy sex.

Rask never fucked Sonya though
R-right guys?

Why would a gay man go to a prostitute?

>as abstract as money

>food and shelter are abstract things

you sound like a total tool

Your problem is caring about the opinions of women.

He was at least slightly autistic and an alchemist, so with the 99.999th percentile IQ he was probably a little gay statistically speaking.

Just decide for youself Jesus Christ why do you need someone else's validation?

wrong

the hippie era had pretty extreme shit at the margins, but that's like claiming today's Berlin scat scene defines millennial sexuality

and people did make a big fucking deal of it btw, the average WASP family fucking despised hippies and their lifestyle and they still carry negative connotations with them to this day

Women don't find YOU attractive.

I'm female, genius.

>good for me but not for thee

Money isn't food and shelter, it's just something people who have food and shelter think is important. It's like having a gun - the gun isn't equal to food and shelter, but point at the person selling those things, and bam, free food and shelter

the tool is their bodies which are literally designed to please me

>Freud smoked cigars

Good one.

wiliam vollmann whore trilogy

also female, and can confirm, men are gross animals.

male here, can confirm you are probably a gross animal of a women.

When I think of sex workers I get incredibly sad. Does anyone else experience this?

Did your life change for the positive afterwards? Strongly considering it currently due to my autism.

It's a sad life. Most of them suffered tremendous abuse, and now they're in an extremely marginalized and humiliating position in society. I really admire prostitutes, they're almost Jesus-like in their suffering.

Jesus Christ reddit has overrun this board either that or you are women yourselves.

Either way leave this fucking board

Veeky Forums has always been leftist, newfriend.

>caring about other people = leftist now

Not caring about women specifically because they're women is an exclusively right-wing delirium.

The only delirious people here are those wasting their limited empathy on strangers who may very well be happy with their life. Imagine someone talking about how your life must be incredibly sad.
It would only make you feel bad about the situation you are in. These things are all relative and free-will is an illusion anyway

You'll hopefully understand this when you reach your 18th birthday though

Liberals have a strange definition of "caring." It seems to involve catering to the "disadvantaged" group's every passing whim. And no matter how much we concede to the "disadvantaged' group, they still want more, coming up with new grievances and demands every year. You give an inch, and they'll take an ell.

In the sexual market, it's considered cheating the system.
>Dude, you had to BUY sex, haha what?

I visited a Russian once after new year, she told me she celebrated Christmas at McDonald's. Few other titbits of her life in the Donbas gave me the impression she used to drink or do drugs and was exploited. She fucked very hard though, I miss her honestly, she was quite nice and used to dress me afterwards

>tfw still a virgin at 26 and don't have all that much money and live in a small town that has no prostitutes in the first place.

Are call girls generally as picky as I think they are?

What is the likelihood that a guy would get rejected by a fucking prostie?

I've only seriously contemplated doing this for the last two years now because I legitimately feel like I have no options anymore.

I just want to get this sex shit over with already..

I'm writing a semi autobiographical short story about a story a clas mate told back when I was in high school. It involves prostitution. Can you tell how went for you? What was on your mind ect?

There is none in it. He might be mistaking the voyeur stuff as prostitution somehow

Man here, can confirm you would feel contempt rather than disgust to a beta bitch, and which one is really worse for a relationship? Be honest with yourself.

For your clouded lack of insight or sense of priorities such as this is a demonstration of, you will take note of why your feelings and reason are disregarded and never taken seriously by men. Keep being pseud.

im a former sex worker. we're not picky. it's our job. really, the only requirement is that you're clean and can pay for it. also some places (not the one i worked at) may require std test results.

That's a cool point of view for cynical character in a novel

Did you find clients through shit like Backpage or is that mostly just scams?

really? i think it sounds fucking awful

The whole story please! I'm the guy who wants to write about sluts (no offense)

Thank you for reaffirming my assumption.

Who are you? The female user who made the post or another user?