Why do people become manchildren? Why do they read genre fiction, play video games, watch Star Trek and anime, cosplay?

Why do people become manchildren? Why do they read genre fiction, play video games, watch Star Trek and anime, cosplay?
How does modern philosopher explain it?

No natural selection to get rid of the weak hedonistic scum

They are mentally not prepared for adulthood after 18 years of coddling.

This

Also, it became the norm after a while so ridicule that would normally stamp it out of them no longer exists

How far Veeky Forums has fallen...

Indeed

Social engineering to delay the onset of adulthood, adult babies are easy to rule and influence by appealing to their emotions and desires. See Plato, Bernays, Marcuse, A Huxley etc.

>tfw you look up Bernays and see what sort of stuff he was promoting

bump

Source?
One or two papers will do.

Because they (finally) can.

They're all having fun and I admire it but whenever I turn up to places and see people that ugly I'm always put off and realise I could never join in because I'd eventually insist on going out to bars to chat up girls.

4th from the right is high as fuck.

Lack of a meaningful life so they retreat into childhood in order to ward off the emptiness they feel inside from dodging their free will for their entire lives. They substitute the self for a manufactured identity centered around a time consuming distraction.

>implying there is a self that isn't "manufactured"

Hey fuck you, Star Trek is an awesome show.

>implying the self isn't created by embracing your free will and it's relation to your inevitable death

There was a time when I thought that watching anime is intelligent and counterculture.
But I don't regret it too much. There are some shows like Niea_7, Windy Tales or FLCL that I have fond mermories of.

Mohammad please go

Why do most people who watch anime end up being these massive weeaboos, though? I met a guy today who had a fucking anime character as his phone background, and he seemed totally normal. It's like degeneracy that lurks beneath the surface.

Lets put it like this. If someone in Victorian times dressed up like a fox or wore a diaper they would have been put in an Asylum. This happened all the way up until as recent as the late 90's. The problem honestly is how the internet has connected everyone.

Think about it, without the instant communication and gratification of others stating that it's perfectly normal for this weird shit to happen we would still be locking them up.

The good news is that we can prey off the weak and make money from them. I personally know someone who makes a mint by selling T-shirts that say "Womyn Power" and "Yiff All Night" on them. He is literally the patriarchy they are trying to fight against, and they're just shoveling money at him. Up to 5 digits on a monthly basis.

>that image

A manchild hasn't learned the meaning of sacrifice. They haven't learned their limits and accepted them. They are still working under the delusion that the sky is the limit for them. After all, children are nothing but potential. I've played video games for a long time and I can't tell you how many idiots I've met that had delusions of grandeur.

But an adult should be potential realized, however finite that potential may be. A manchild has failed to do this and set upon a given path, it is why he is so terrified at the prospect, and fails to follow-through.

He can't accept his own limitations and come to terms with them. His own inability to choose will catch up to him, and the choice will be made for him eventually, whether he likes it or not.

Which one are you

g-give me back my diary

I love browsing these threads because it's the only way to feel better about myself; by putting others down.

Post a picture of yourself

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>tfw so enlightened I'm not on the chart

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what is this from

Escapism is easier than dealing with problems, or facing issues that aren't black and white/left-right. Superhero films easily show the hero and villain, who to cheer for, who to attack etc.

Peterson was right about how lots of "men" play video games for 12+hrs a day because its escape, with clear objectives and chances to retry whenever you fuck up, so nothing is perminent.


But don't talk shit about Star Trek, there are legit philosophical ideas within the series. Its Star Wars which is all surface

>men who spend their lives in irrelevant intellectual masturbation can't comprehend how others could do the same thing with different window dressing
kek

Because the human being is bored of itself and search for something better (for them)

I'm pretty sure you aren't just baiting, which is pretty sad because it means you think literature and video games have some kind of an equivalency between them

you know he'll just claim he's baiting in the end

It isn't anime or Star Trek. It is, but not the same way.
They make an identity for themselves out of these products.
It's all done to foster up a sense of belonging. Problem is, that these hobbies rarely encourage creativity and "production" of respectable content. (I'd say cosplay is better, since you can learn tailoring and other such things to make your costumes, an honourable thing to do)

>WTF BOOKS R LE SMART

They're more similar than not. I won't deny that I take more pleasure from a well-written book than a video game, but both provide opportunity for meaning. I've had significant emotional experiences doing both.

It was glib, but I stand by the sentiment. There is more similarity in obsessively pursuing those solitary, intellectually-focused activities than in either compared to things that involve a larger physical component. They're not the same, but it's silly to claim that they're mutually incomprehensible.

Zaizen Tokiko from Idolmaster Cinderella.
You slut.

The greatest achievement of art is an anime series. Get over it you noncultured twerp.
m-maybe if i read le smartie greek n rowman books i will be reel man n smart n dont need no feewings n girls will liek me
;c i am le smartie reden teh russen bookz if wi dnt hav crisdandy ten evyron wil b diginrate n raip

BASED.

most weeaboos are effectively pornography addicts. anime girls are concentrated appeal; it's really easy to get hooked on them. 'otaku culture' is a bunch of dudes addicted to moe and masturbation. everything is hyper-sexualized (just look at how /a/ fetishizes *absolutely everything*: anime girl armpits, anime girl bellybuttons, anime girl collarbones, glasses, stockings, schoolgirl outfits, facial expressions, etc etc etc...)
it's like normie porn addiction, but worse: it has a very large emotional aspect (due to anime's basis as a storytelling medium), and it's also much more social than typical erotic-stimulation based addiction: you're allowed to talk about anime in public and with all the other weebs out there, thus supporting your inclusion into the 'culture' (which also makes you think of it as an identity, making it more difficult to 'get out')

anime fans typically fall on a spectrum between "lauding anime as a high-quality artistic form of storytelling", and "pure hedonistic moe-based sexual pleasure". i think there's always a slow pull to the right no matter where you lie (and the anime industry is shifting that way since it's what the otaku pay for).

not implying the dude you met is like that, but he might be on the path towards it.

The world of work is total shit. They choose not to enter it and use media to simulate experiences.

Star Trek is cool you gay boy. Watching TNG is far different than going full out autist about it

There is absolutely nothing wrong with having something that interests you as your phone background.
>muh degeneracy
kek

Versus normies with big boobie porn stars as their phone background?
Tell me right now what's objectively wrong with having this as a phone background

It displays your objectively shit taste

Why?
How?
Give me a quick rundown of the series I just posted.
Show me your big boobie bitches phone background, why don't you?
Or is it some fedoralord lounging in a chair with glasses, a pipe, a bed robe, whiskey, and some trash 17th century philosophy text or garbage Russian novel?

>Give me a quick rundown of the series I just posted.
>Show me your big boobie bitches phone background, why don't you?
Or is it some fedoralord lounging in a chair with glasses, a pipe, a bed robe, whiskey, and some trash 17th century philosophy text or garbage Russian novel?

Oh lord.

There's no difference at all between being a weaboo, a sports freak, someone really into literature or a teenager girl watching 4 daily hours of Netflix; these are all passive hobbies, the only difference being a few of them are more socially normalized than others. Of course, it's just so easy pointing your finger at a 35% bodyfat pale tweaky manchild, that doesn't mean it's the right thing to do or that you have a solid grievance against them

Here's my big boobie bitch you sea urchin

>Give me a quick rundown of the series I just posted
some kid surfs with robots and then there's a terrible sequel
It's shit because it's fucking nothing. It's just a picture of a made up woman who's already cobbled together from the NEET ideals of women. Go outside and take a picture of a squirrel or some shit.

You guys think you're any different from those people? You all read fiction. You are just as bad.


>my fiction is better than your fiction

lack of father figure

>muh myth
Totally wrong. Try again.
I didn't realize that PTSD and canon invirginity were 'neet ideals'
>how dare this person have an attachment to something that i dont like?

The hilarious thing is people posting on Veeky Forums while posing as Serious Adults and whining about manchildren.
Absolutely zero self-awareness.

i'd do the fatty in the gas mask if she kept it on

Shhh, let them pat each other's back because of their "superiority" and "objectively good taste"

>anime fans typically fall on the spectrum
Agreed

>I didn't realize that a traumatized girl who wants a childlike figure who still has the potential to be the hero and save the day is a NEET fantasy
yikes

So, you've never seen it. Good job pseud. Go whine about >muh no gf while reading Dosto.

I really need some explanations on this one. Can't find a thing on the "society for spinozist spiritual ascension" for example.

I'm still a manchild at 26, unfortunately. But I've suffered so much for it that I'm finally being forced to change my ways.

Better than at 40, I guess.

She's a big girl

lol i'm not gay so i don't watch anime

Man, this is just embarrassing

/thread

ok, but what the fuck is a goytoy, bugmen and so on?

I assume goytoy is implying people who are falling for the sales tactics of a perceived hack

I guess me adhering to some of Jordan Peterson's advice makes me an acolyte, idk

it's helped me greatly so far, so hey

>bugmen
google "TV AMERIKWA REAL NEWS"
go from there

sorry lad this is not a place for you you destroyed /g/ with your degeneracy, I won't let you destroy this board too

Anime is cool.

You could have just asked, user.

What makes them so different? You can have deep, thought-provoking games just like you can have crappy, thoughtless novels. Games and books have a similar ability to tell a story and transfer the user into an alternate world, both can drive at hard held beliefs, and both can be shallow wastes of time as well.

They did think women could never be a true companion in the Symposium.

I'm not that user though

>You can have deep, thought-provoking games

These do not exist, unless you are talking about strategy games, which do require deep thought since it involves heavy tactics. If you're talking about story it's a good sign that you have never had a 'deep' thought in your life.

there *can* be, but I would say that games are held back by their typical form of skinner box pleasure. also, if someone wants to create a thought-provoking piece of art, it's rare for someone's medium of choice to be video game instead of something better equipped, like literature or film.

This is the sad truth. The only valid interests are those that are creative in nature. Everything else is just passive consumption of social product. Yes, there is a need to consume in order to produce but most people who read literature, watch entertainment media, or watch sports only end up consuming, never allowing that interest to flourish into a creative project.

>I'm better than everyone else: The Post.

I like Russian novels because they're like my Japanese animes. They have self-insert MCs, tsunderes, lolis, moe, and forced drama.

What the hell are you? That the mcdonalds employees, the accounatents, the car mechanics, and the dog tamers who "consume" art should ALL pick up tuba playing, poetry, or fingerpainting?

Can you even imagine how stupid a world would be where everyone that buys movies tries to make movies?

Are you actually retarded? His advice was shallow and generalized, but it's easy to follow.

Create and consume. Don't just consume. Whatever that may be, creativity is productivity. How did you miss this simple conclusion?

>Canadian English dictionary
triggered desu
do you consider "Canadian English" a different language to English from the UK?

I like you. The thread should have ended after your first post, because everyone responding seriously got BTFO.

Was this the last Veeky Forums meetup?

It's a mix between UK and USA English desu
Also a few Canadian only words

>if someone wants to create a thought-provoking piece of art, it's rare for someone's medium of choice to be video game instead of something better equipped, like literature or film
I'm reading a lot of modernist writing from the birth of cinema, and it's amazing how many of them said similar things about film as it emerged as a medium.

Can't be. The people are smiling.

can you build an adequate defence for why such 'weird' behaviours are wrong and should be discouraged?

I'm starting to think manchildren aren't even a thing. The definition is so nebulous, it seems to shift depending on what the speaker wants to attack.

t. manchild

holy shit

Pretty much. The focal point for being a man child changes, depending on what the person specifically dislikes.
If I had to try and define it, I'd say that being it means being an adult man that makes most of his social and recreational interactions through interest in a medium that is quite clearly aimed towards children. Or at the very least, a proportion that is viewed as unseemly in regular society. The sort of people that use the word "fandom" in a serious sense.

If you watch anime and aren't ashamed of it, you have no place on this board.

>underage babbies still pride themselve in exclusively reading literature

Makes sense, I guess we could say it's people who base their identity around their affections as opposed to action? Rick and Morty fans being a prime example.

Man who even fucking cares
If somebody likes to dress up like a video game character or watch mass produced plebshit anime, but otherwise has their shit together (ie having a job and not living at home), then how are they a manchild?