Whats some good entry level yuppie lit?

>culturally define

Rejection of modern-genetic science?
Are you saying there isn't differences between the ethnic-groups or certain phenotypes?
Do you believe that populations are inter-changeable?
That you could import millions of Arabs/Africans into Japan but if you simply put them through the Japanese education system they'd be indistinguishable from the average Japanese person other than simply "melanin".

Race-realism, or differences between ethnicities was never debunked or disproved.
They simply stopped talking about once they found out there was disparities and assume that those differences are ENTIRELY environmental despite much evidence suggesting that IQ is influenced a great deal by genetics.

It is you and the modern-left who reject modern genetic science, not the new right wing.

Not same guy but even if we didn't culturally define them, there would still be differences.
So what's your point?

There is nothing more fundamental to identity than race, and those searching for identity while ignoring race are lost souls like hipsters, though there is something uniquely white about hipsterdom. You are the one who sounds like you lack a sense of purpose here. Those of us who have embraced white identity, are proud of it, and want to protect it are typically quite content and happy to have discovered it in the face of so many outlets telling us we're evil for doing so.

Also, the lack of identity white men feel isn't due to weakness, it's because all traditional sources of identity (religious, national, ethnic, cultural) have been thoroughly eroded by a progressive culture that has been criticizing those sources of identity as being reactionary. And since straight white men are the only group not allowed to play identity politics, they have no real feeling of belonging.

If I interpret genetics wrong and oversimplify it on purpose, then people will believe my ancient and outdated concepts of race that directly oppose the actual differences between ethnic groups.

The differences that exist are far from the differences we like to collectively imagine, nor are they that important. It's pseudoscience used to justify extremism, nothing more.

20 IQ point differences don't matter?

It's purely due to weakness, and inability to identify with anything in their own life.

>There is nothing more fundamental to identity than race,
Only if you're a failure of a man.

not that user, but what does it mean to embrace white identity ? Genuine question

>IQ
Oh man I sure do love non-standardized non-scientific tests that are pretty much on the same level as myers briggs!
What's your IQ, and your myers briggs typology, and horoscope?
I'm a 169 IQ INTJ white Cancer star sign, somebody else must be holding me down considering I'm so predetermined for greatness.

Race being culturally defined doesn't change the fact that there are real genetic differences between groups. Race is just a rough representation of an underlying biological fact.

Real genetic differences between ethnic groups does more to spit on the face of the pseudoscience of racialism than it does to support it.
Race is an intentional misinterpretation of biological fact to support extremist terror.

General intelligence is actually a real field of research that has decades of data to back it up. People who criticize IQ tests are typically criticizing the culturally-biased tests they used to give out in the 1950s. But they've come a long way since then.

IQ is one of the greatest predictors of success and was touted as such by the leftists who created it until they noticed the disparities between ethnicities.
They aren't perfect of course, but someone who scores 75 on an IO test will be noticeably duller than someone who scores 110.

The IQ tests today are still non-standardized and still non-scientific. They're nothing better than a game.
Is pseudoscience all you ebin raiders have?

There is a difference between ethnicity and race though.
Race is a social construct, similar to gender, but ethnicity and sex are not social-constructs and there is significant difference.

Exactly, ethnicity and race are different and racialist ideology hates this. I'm saying this part just to prod your opinions, sex is not binary.

Many things, I suppose, not limited to accepting the uniqueness of European accomplishment in art, science, and exploration, appreciating that we're the only people with light phenotypes, understanding what it is that made us this way, and ultimately wanting to protect it by ensuring that we don't blend in to the brown masses storming our nations who do not maintain the above-mentioned qualities, or at least to the degrees we do. That seems as normal as the morning sun rising, but we've been told all our lives that this perspective is evil and wrong. So embracing it means overcoming that and appreciating who we are, where we came from, and understanding that we have a duty to make sure it lives on.

What are you even saying? Thinking that race exists is not the same as thinking that there's a racial hierarchy. There's literally no debating that certain genes tend to predominate in certain populations due to an isolated evolutionary history.

>There is nothing more fundamental to identity than race
Only if you have no accomplishments. Being of a certain race is pure luck, it just means that mommy got stuck up by a certain dad, you didn't do much about it. Is this what you choose to define you?

>There's literally no debating that certain genes tend to predominate in certain populations due to an isolated evolutionary history.
Leave it to the trip-fag to type the most sperg-tastic post.

Thinking race exists is intentionally ignoring the facts and attaching yourself to a desperate long-past pseudo-scientific position.
Why would you do something so silly if not to justify some other position? The truth is really there is no reason to chase after this fantasy other than that ability to justify race based policy or action it gives you.

A game that tests your ability to test patterns and basic intuitive reasoning skills.
And there are major differences between ethnicities in where they place on these tests.

You think it is a coincidence that Africans score on average 30 points lower compared to Europeans and that they've also contributed virtually nothing to humanity throughout history?

Do you think it's a coincidence that the Abo's in Australia score lowest on IQ tests compared to any other ethnic group and that they had no language, hadn't reached the stone-age yet and their only real contribution to the human experience was the didgeridoo?

We are on an anonymous message board, just admit that you acknowledge that there differences between the ethnicities AND that for the sake of cohesion/compassion etc. you think we should ignore/suppress those who claim there is, that is a valid opinion although I disagree.

>non-standardized
>not bullshit
Five. Five. Five. Come on now. Png.

Dude, intelligence testing is an insanely complex field of research with like thousands of papers dedicated to furthering knowledge in the field. It's not something that a Veeky Forums poster can dismiss as just being a game. That's incredibly arrogant.

I can and will dismiss it. Lots of nonsense lies have a lot of work put into them.

You realize that you're not actually arguing the point, right? You're just asserting that you're right, then attacking people who think that the contrary evidence is convincing in some weird strawman you've set up

>I know I'm right, I don't have to look at the research
Alright, it was nice arguing with you

They created Universal(standardized) IQ tests after there was disparities between the ethnicities, and of course as radical egalitarianism is the foundation of modern social science, there had to be something wrong with the test.

They refined it again and again to a point where it requires no formal education and simply tests ones pattern recognition abilities.
Also good job ignoring the rest of my post.

>evidence
>meme tests and "well we -culturally- believe in it that's the same thing as it being biologically true right"

Being a bitter individualist like yourself clearly offers no path to enlightenment. Your ancestors are the reason you are here, and your disassociation from this past of yours is probably why you seem angry and are likely an unhappy person. Your viewpoint is abnormal. Race is the backbone of identity, no question about it.

>mfw people actually believe bullshit on /pol/ and look at the world trhough /pol/ ideology

Desperately searching for any belonging because I feel so alienated isn't my style. Sorry. I have a personal identity.

If your goal is to evaluate an innate quality like intelligence why would you use an assessment for the product of formal education?

as an actual european when I see you americans going on about "white heritage" and all that shit I see the same bullshit as the "we wuz kangz" that some of the american blacks like so much

The bigger problem is that political polarization forces people to view objective reality through the prism of their ideology. That's true of both /pol/ anti-semites and lefty race-deniers.

Fuck off dude. This whole white identity nonsense metastasized in Europe. You guys were throwing banana peels at black soccer players before Richard Spencer graduated college.

Universal IQ tests don't require a formal education, that's the point.
They refined the tests over and over again attempting to eliminate the disparity, assuming it to be a fault of the tests, but they never could.
Then they just stopped talking about it and now discredit IQ tests.
Any academic you see discrediting IQ tests is a radical egalitarian.

I'm sure you do. What I'm telling you, though, is that it's incomplete because you don't appreciate that what came before you shaped this identity of yours. Even your rugged individualism is a product of race and the traits that evolved within your group over centuries. Perhaps that's something you should have more respect for is all I'm saying.

Race-realism is outside of /pol/ too though.

Thing is, I'm not desperate enough to buy into this rhetoric. Why not try this on /v/?

Do you consider yourself a lefty? Because their whole thing is that cultural alienation exits and that capitalism's to blame.

Not that user, but by embracing your past, you come to embrace both good and evils things your "ancestors" did. Being in a Judeo Christian environment, the focus on guilt is very strong, thus heritage focus on evil things that our ancestors did, diminishing all the positive aspects of the good things.

So, by assuming the sins of your ancestors, you're very likely to end up like a hipster whose cultural choices may be guided by historical guilt.

If you don't assume the sins of your elders, why even pretend to embrace an heritage then ?

Wouldn't it be more reasonnable to be less opiniated about race and identity politics ?

I don't know what v is, but this doesn't necessarily have anything to do with you personally being desperate, it has to do with you being naive and stubborn.

You can also be alienated from yourself, this is a good excuse to desperately flail around clinging to racialism.

>Being in a Judeo Christian environment, the focus on guilt is very strong

That's the "judeo" part of that fake term. Whites have been getting guilt tripped in this fashion for decades. We have not, however, been allowed to be proud of our accomplishments. We can leave the guilt part behind for a while as we fix the current spate of problems.

Did you read the Post article yesterday about Antifa? They're all basically high school dropouts and NEETs living with their parents. Alienation leading to odd and extreme political beliefs is pretty fucking common nowadays on both the left and the right, and that's because traditional sources of meaning and identity have become so eroded.

ITT: 0 to /pol/ real quick. I still don't see any Yuppie Lit recommendations. The Beats, Jack London, and American Psycho fit well into that category.

I would have to be desperate to buy into this.

woah-ho, what's next on the menu big boy? Race traitors? Cucks?

You fucking suck at posting

>I would have to be desperate to buy into this.
And I'm aware that desperation is what it will take for many. Maybe your children will have a better understanding of why individualism can't protect them from tribalist brown hordes storming their country to pilfer their resources.

>tribalist brown hordes storming their country to pilfer their resources.
you should just start writing stories in the Robert E Howard tradition desu

I would advise you to have a look at some genocides spanish performed, etc.

"storming [their] country to pilfer their resources" is what "white" people have been doing for centuries.

If this is what "brown people" are doing right now, man they are very bad at doing it !

I don't know what else you would expect, I'm one of them dang cuck sjws.

>Whites are Europeans but embracing this identity, being proud of our heritage, and acting in its interests is not something whites are allowed to do. We're the only ones who can't play identity politics. So we instead become connoisseurs of mid-century negroid jazz, Apple fanboys, and faux eastern spiritualists
This is so cringey. Yes /pol/ the reason I like jazz is because american college students use white as an insult.

>What would be "be white" ?
>Whites are Europeans
Great answer.

>our heritage, and acting in its interests
I like my heritage and I think europe is the best but "act in the interest of it"? Jesus fucking Christ. Way to project your own complexes

i don't think the hipster OP described would enjoy American psycho. They would try to read it but become confused and offened at the lack of stronk wiimin and the horrible and detailed descriptions of torture. OP's hipster would probably put it down, tweet about how AP examines white privilege or some shit, and go back to reading their chimamanda ngozi adichie novel.

>Watches the hipster squirm when faced with the truth about its vapid non-identity.

>complaining about jazz in fucking 2017
this is either Evola reincarnated or self-parody.

>y-you hipster
Now that's the type of quality argument that makes everybody respect /pol/ posters so much
>your non identity
Nice projection as I said.

There's nothing traditional about 'white culture'. It's a historically recent burger invention resulting from intraeuropean race mixing among the degenerate scum that were too beta to make it in their countries of origin.

I was thinking it captured the spirit of the culture well. The constant comparisons to others to validate yourself that drives the whole culture. Someone's always going to have the better business card or Instagram page which in turn drives you to invest more time, effort, and identity into your hipster lifestyle.

>Race is the backbone of identity, no question about it.
you just pulled this out of your ass, white boi

This is a frequent jewish talking point used to divide white people.

who hurt you? did you get cucked by a chad? it sounds like you started stalking him on social media and are mad salty about it. be careful, this behavior leads to extreme measures, so just try not to get a gun permit.

>that were too beta to make it in their countries of origin.
Leaving your shitty life as a European serf to go to the American frontier to battle Indians, Mexicans, coyotes, and motherfucking bears makes you beta?

Race determines nearly everything about the individual. It makes up the foundation of identity.

>tribalist brown hordes storming their country to pilfer their resources.

hahaha holy fuck the irony

This is true. Which is why you can take a white serf from medieval france and a modern white american woman and you will see no difference in identity whatsoever

now I see your asshole prolapsing, give it a rest kid

>Danish culture and Spanish culture are the same! It all eminates from Greece and Rome, stop thinking your local traditions are special and of any worth other than as tourist attraction! Why would you want """national sovereignty""" when we're all the same people? Just move all that power to Brussels!
Pan-Europeanism is globalism.

Oh I guess I misunderstood. I thought OP meant literature that hipsters read not literature that describes them.

Mongrels like this naturally take offense.

>let's antagonise insult annoy and belittle the only group who's support we seek
/pol/ jumped the shark with The_Donald

who is offended?

What excuse do the people who go around claiming that Indians are the only real Americans use when it comes to defending immigration into Europe? They seem to have one position for two very different circumstances.

maybe if you weren't the retard you are you'd be aware European imperialist powers pilfered Africa and the Middle East first, so in a way it's fair retribution

You know he doesn't know you are trolling?

Policies formed with the goal of rectifying historical mishaps by creating new ones are literally evil. I mean that sincerely.

New attack on London this morning, if you haven't heard.

The narrative you are promoting is bullshit. European colonialist powers raised those societies up and they have been worse off since Europeans left, as European nations are worse off as those dysfunctional third world populations arrive to the west in increasing numbers.

>Steal.
I thought commies didn't adhere to the notion of property?

Also kind of racist of you to label every black nigger in Africa as "African", pretty ignorant Ignoramus.

This. Just take a look at the shit that is modern day Zimbabwe AKA Rhodesia.

If I tell you /pol/sweeties you can support "nationalist" policies without forming your entire identity around clinging to all (good AND bad) aspects of your nation's past, will you leave us in peace?

>everyone i don't like is communist
>kind of racist of you to label every black nigger in Africa as "African"
cringe

Nigger, it's nationalists who want to be left in peace.

Then why do you shit up all boards with /pol/ spam?
Just fuck off back to /pol/ and jerk of all you want to your "identity".

I wonder what it's like to be THIS spooked by ideology.

Never been a part of pol so I can't really go back there, can I? Why does white people speaking openly about their interests and identity bother you so much, though? You know where YOU are, right? You're on a white literature board, son.

>these white people searching desperately for an identity since embracing their own has been socially disallowed
There's no such thing as "white culture" just the generic consumer mush of American culture. Once the second or third generation refuses to use their parents language everything else follows. White culture means continuing to reject the traditions of your parents and instead telling yourself that upholding hatred for people who have managed to keep a cultural identity is an identity itself. All that's left is barbequing spam on your deck in a Confederate trucker hat with your shirt off exposing your putrid beer gut.

>/pol/babbies need a safespace
Like pottery

>no more fundamental identity than race
>what is gender
besides this, your identity is a framework through which you experience the world, comprised of various notches and characteristics, but i'd argue the collective cohesion belonging to these groups has begun to disintegrate through a lack of physical contact, or awareness, or whatever

the internet both affirms self identification, if we're addressing it as pigeonholes to be filled, through some bizarre self diagnosis of belonging (rather than just 'being' as you might at a town hall meeting or the workplace or club gatherings), now pretty much anyone can be anything

but in the anonymity people seem to find themselves most, as stupid as that is to write, and old a concept as freedom of expressing without supposed identity; the thing is here, nobody knows who you are but you, until you open your figurative mouth

>running away like a bitch
Yes?