What were George Orwells political views?

LOL

mostly fear

he hated gays lol

God fucking damnit how do you even sage anymore on this shitty website

That's no rebuttal, bud.

lol

sucking cock

because he was gay

You're 100% talking out your ass. Orwell was one of the strongest critics nationalism has ever had, and you don't know the first thing about what he'd think of multiculturalism or immigration.

Hmmm there isn't an absolute answer given that his political views changed alot as he became older. But I always had the feeling he was one of those democratic socialists that look kindly to trotkists.
But I actually find many of his essays and books very usefulll to study certain topics.

Alex Jones sells his book in the Infowars magazine, so I'm thinking his views were mostly ANGLO

You'd call him a fascist if he was transported to today because you have no awareness of how new age and fabricated your ideas are.

>Literally implying to me right now that Alex Jones reads

He plugs them in his magazine. I cannot confirm he read it though.

retarded

I bet he doesn't stock Homage to Catalonia

Anti-Hillary. Would have been a YUGE Trump supporter obviously, desu.

This isn't difficult.

>Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it

Orwell is NAZBOL

He was a centrist liberal who hated extremists

>and he obviously understood the jewish question to an extent going by his use of a jew, Goldstein, as the menace
uhhh, did we read the same book?

Goldstein wasn't "the menace", the inner party was. Goldstein was just a honey-pot for dissenters who may or may even ever existed in the book's history.

>Where this age differs from those immediately preceding it is that a liberal intelligentsia is lacking. Bully-worship, under various disguises, has become a universal religion, and such truisms as that a machine-gun is still a machine-gun even when a "good" man is squeezing the trigger — and that in effect is what Mr Russell is saying — have turned into heresies which it is actually becoming dangerous to utter
>Liberal: a power worshipper without power

He also risked his life fighting for republican Spain. Couldn't that be described as a little "extreme"? (Also choosing one of the most radical militias: the POUM.)

You dipshit. He died in 1950, ofc he would be seen as ''socially conservative'', but far from a fascist.
Are you to fucking inept to distinguish identity politics from actual politics? If you work to achieve a classless society but you think WASPs are superior to everyone else, you are still a communist, just like you are a fascist if you advocate for a dictatorship strictly managing capital while suppressing worker's rights, even if you think all men are created equal.
As for OP's question, he was a democratic socialist.

Road to Wigan Pier

Gangster.

He said in homage to Catalonia that his service wasn't "necessarily political", it was a moral decision to combat fascism. I've got a copy somewhere, I can go get the quotes if you want.

"Orwell shares my political ideals"
-Literally everyone

That doesn't change the fact he wasn't a liberal. He, like many on the British hard Left, considered them compromisers of the Establishment.

And again:
>Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it

>If you work to achieve a classless society but you think WASPs are superior to everyone else, you are still a communist
But there would still be classes among the workers of the world, WASPs would be at the top of the pyramid supported by everyone else below. That would be some sort of syndicalism I'd think, but I may be wrong on that. It certainly isn't communism, communism is inherently internationalist.

>just like you are a fascist if you advocate for a dictatorship strictly managing capital while suppressing worker's rights, even if you think all men are created equal
Fascists clearly didn't think all men were created equal, and didn't want to suppress workers' rights. I don't think you know what any of the words you've used in your post mean.

>Sage as a downvote

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I think Orwell, if he were still alive today, would be a senile bag of semi-sentient bones.

In reality he'd be a left-tard.

he didn't live in classical greece, its not that hard to envision that somebody on the left of the Labour party would be on the left of the labour party today

For 4channers who don't know anything about anything this means socialism, intellectualism, hatred of Toryism and the right in general. He would barely be aware of the existence of antifa/pc-culture for you spastics who think thats what politics is. ie, much like an old 'blue' Labour voter of today

>But there would still be classes among the workers of the world, WASPs would be at the top of the pyramid supported by everyone else below.
Not by the marxist definition of class. Marx was a huge racist btw.
>Fascists clearly didn't think all men were created equal
This is ofc true. My point is that if one were to remove just the racial superiority component while keeping every other policy, it would still be fascism. Whether or not this is practically possible is up to debate.
>didn't want to suppress workers' rights
why did they outlaw independent unions then?

>Marx was a huge racist btw.
Source please. And, no, Breitbart doesn't count.

>Not by the marxist definition of class. Marx was a huge racist btw.
By Marx's definition, the bourgeoisie-proletariat relationship exists in every industrialized country in the world. If you create a classless society in a single country, the other industrialize countries of the world would still have societies of class.

>my point is that if one were to remove just the racial superiority component while keeping every other policy, it would still be fascism
There is no racial superiority component to fascism, you're just confirming that you have no idea what you're talking about.

>why did they outlaw independent unions then?
Because fascists believe that a corporatist system where the state mediates the proletarian and bourgeoisie is the most conducive to making everyone better off within the nation.

>If you create a classless society in a single country, the other industrialize countries of the world would still have societies of class.
I never said anything about a single country. My point is that (by Marx' definition) a classless society would not cease to be one even if all blacks had an IQ of less than 70.
>There is no racial superiority component to fascism
I thought you were the one one who claimed that in the first place, but it seems that I misinterpreted you.
I will admit that I am under-educated about fascism, my point was not to discuss semantics, it was that although fascism is very often associated with racism, and communism/socialism with anti-racism, racism is not the essence of fascism, neither is anti-racism the essence of socialism. Thus Orwell would not be considered a fascist today because he would be against gay marriage and abortion.

hiaw.org/defcon6/works/1862/letters/62_07_30a.html
>The Jewish nigger Lassalle who, I’m glad to say, is leaving at the end of this week, has happily lost another 5,000 talers in an ill-judged speculation. [...] It is now quite plain to me — as the shape of his head and the way his hair grows also testify — that he is descended from the negroes who accompanied Moses’ flight from Egypt (unless his mother or paternal grandmother interbred with a nigger). Now, this blend of Jewishness and Germanness, on the one hand, and basic negroid stock, on the other, must inevitably give rise to a peculiar product. The fellow’s importunity is also nigger-like.
I've also read some quote about slavs as a race being too reactionary for a revolution, but I can't recall the exact wording

Not sure that condemns him of "huge" racism. It was private correspondence and he was referring to someone he disliked. This was a man who spent many years raging against the institution of slavery, and condemned the social evolutionists/racial theorists.

The Slav quote would be more interesting, however. If you find it, please let me know.

>[about slavs, bretons and other peoples] Until its complete extermination or loss of national status, this racial trash always becomes the most fanatical bearer there is of counter-revolution, and it remains that. That is because its entire existence is nothing more than a protest against a great historical revolution... The next world war will cause not only reactionary classes and dynasties, but also entire reactionary peoples, to disappear from the earth. And that too is progress.
-Karl Marx, 1849, Neue Rheinische Zeitung.
Haven't been able to confirm it, searching through the slog of pure ideology while googling it is a hassle.

Anarcho-socialism

Most obvious in Homage...

Interesting, thanks. It appears to be an Engels's quote though.

He states point blank in his book "Why I Write" on page 394

"“Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it."

Fucking plebs

And if you had actually *read* the thread, you would've seen this point had already been made.

Pleb.

He was a Trump supporter.

He would have been a #CruzMissile

I can't tell if these posts are jokes anymore. Ordinarily I would've assumed so, but with the amount of stupidity we've been hit with recently...

What a fucking state Veeky Forums is in.