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>kids fight unimaginable horror that brings up past trauma
>"Time to have sex ;)"
Retarded euros will defend this

Where did you get the cover pic from, OP? It lacks the "SH" before the "IT".

King has written dozens of short stories, many of them quite good.

>Lovecraft isn't even scary,

opposite for me.

i have been genuinely unsettled by Lovecrafts work.

King is like the 'Jaws 3D' of horror.

>kid gets eaten alive by unimagiable horrors

well its a horror novel so you kinda expect that to happen

you don't expect a FUCKING CHILD ORGY

Whats with that character and ripping people in half

The only other time I saw him he is ripping Carnage in half

You read needful things? I liked that one a lot too

One thing is a fictional scenario that'd never happen, the other is paedo-bait.

I never liked anything from King.

Shiki is my second favorite anime, and its general premise is identical to Salem's Lot (Vampires take over small town), but it pulls it off better.

I mean he copies Lovecraft so I guess. It feels forced in some places though.

EXCUSE ME SIR

I haven't, out of the ones I read. I'm not going to read a bunch of fiction.

>sex over violence meme

normies say that kids can't consent and shouldn't be sexualized. that would be rape - a form of violence.

I'd rather have my kids be exposed to senseless gore than sex. it's more honest. Exposing to (((natural))) sexuality just seems insidious.

King books start off interesting but he usually fucks up in the ending. The best one of his that I've read is The Long Walk

Violence in fiction can be edifying (though it often isn't) because its a reality of life. A 12 year old watching the bloody parts of Hacksaw Ridge might himself have to fight in a war at 17.

Sex usually can't be edifying in the same way, because most depictions of it are just pornographic. Sex scenes cause a desire to jack off, violent scenes don't (unless the viewer/reader is mentally ill) cause a desire to cause acts of violence.

i was having a real good laugh at that when i watched it for the first time a few days ago
it's a wholesome kind of humour, no fucking nihilism post-modernist slime that americans seem to slather over everything these days

What. Shiki is an allegory for communist revolution

I actually watched that part just last night before going to see the movie it sucked and I audibly laughed, unexpectedly.

Between the book (halfway through), the movie, and the miniseries, the miniseries looks like it has the most gold. I'll have to check it out.

To each their own. Lovecraft terrifies me but King just reads like a book I would read on vacation.

sex is gross

no thank you

I kinda feel that way about Lovecraft, really fun to read but nothing scary, more entertaining than anything. Have you read Machen, I find his stuff a lot creepier than Lovecraft but it's in a similar style. "The White People" especially.

I love Machen too actually. I do wish he was discussed here more.

Interdimensional evil child-hunting clown monsters is a thing that doesn't really exist.

Coked-up rich old dudes acting out their pedo rape fantasies, however, is something that definitely *does*.

Is the idea of protecting your children from predators really so foreign to eurofags? You deserve to die out and be replaced by shitskins.

It's a story dumbfuck. It's make-believe. Let me guess, you're a pizzagater, right?

>mention children
>mention se-
>OH MY GOD YOU SICK PERVERT HOW CAN YOU EVEN THINK LIKE THAT?
Every time.

It's maybe because of a culture of heavy sexual repression resulting from Puritan influence on the formation of our society. Regardless, the relegation of sex to images and dirty jokes in childhood is why so many people here are sexual neurotics.

>People who disagree are plebs and simpletons who can't appreciate [thing].
Observe; this here is a good pattern for starting kuso threads on any board.

It was the same in Europe less than a century ago. Sex has always been a private thing and details were always omitted if you were not Marquis de Sade or fome fucko like that.

>daddy let me watch violent movies when I was a child. Now I fantasize about rape and torture.
Nice education you're giving them there! :^)

Nigger, fuck you. Lovecraft was brilliant. King is some shit people buy from the kiosk when they have a long flight.

Plus he is is a leftist cuck who shitposts in twitter about how evil Trump is and HPL was based.

this

he's kind of bad at long form (illustrated perfectly by how much of a shitpile Dark Tower turned into), but his short stories are a lot more consistent, which kind of suggests that his biggest problem is structure.

Im reading misery now. bout 100 pages in and it seems like hes dragging this out.

entertaining nonetheless

>his biggest problem is structure
And some of the endings to his stories are terrible.

King is shit compared to actual modern weird fiction writers. Try Thomas Ligotti or Matthew M. Bartlett, boi

The comparison of Lovecraft to King is kind of like apples to oranges.

King writes on a semi-plausible level for the most part. He deals with bizarre stuff, for sure, but nowhere near as weird Lovecraft.

Lovecraft wrote about ancient gods, the uselessness and fear of being human, giant penguins in the middle of a frozen and hollow earth. Lovecraft writes like a soldier who had seen too much during the war, King writes like a storyteller around a fire.

They're both great in their own right, but king is not weird fiction.

really, nigga?

I suspect the secret to his prolific output is that he just writes with no forward thought in mind, which inevitably means his plots will always fall apart

It's also important to note that something can be cosmic horror without being weird fiction, yeah. King's IT is, in many ways, cosmic horror, and a bit Lovecraftian. but so is fucking hellboy, and neither are weird fiction

>People who disagree are plebs and simpletons

>[It's] important to realize that more articulate name-calling has just as little weight. A comment like
>>The author is a self-important dilettante.
>is really nothing more than a pretentious version of "u r a fag."
paulgraham.com/disagree.html

>it's a Bev chapter
>he talks about her boobs again
EVERY TIME

>I'm not going to read a bunch of fiction.
Why not?

That's way more gory than I remember super comics* being when I was a kid. Is this the sort of thing that Marvel allows now?

* With the exception of the edgier independent '90s stuff.

This is the reason I am afraid to write YA fiction. I want to make something engaging out of my teen run-ins with violence and sexuality for the kind of reader I was at the time, but I'm afraid to attract negative attention for it. I can't imagine reading that shit to a writing group.

Just use a pen name. And make /lit your writing group.

>pedo rape fantasies
>The scene involves kids having sex with each other willfully
Nice projecting, pedo

"statutory rape fantasies" just doesn't roll off the tongue as easily.

>As for the Republicans -- how can one regard seriously a frightened, greedy, nostalgic huddle of tradesmen and lucky idlers who shut their eyes to history and science, steel their emotions against decent human sympathy, cling to sordid and provincial ideals exalting sheer acquisitiveness and condoning artificial hardship for the non-materially-shrewd, dwell smugly and sentimentally in a distorted dream-cosmos of outmoded phrases and principles and attitudes based on the bygone agricultural-handicraft world, and revel in (consciously or unconsciously) mendacious assumptions (such as the notion that real liberty is synonymous with the single detail of unrestricted economic license or that a rational planning of resource-distribution would contravene some vague and mystical 'American heritage'...) utterly contrary to fact and without the slightest foundation in human experience? Intellectually, the Republican idea deserves the tolerance and respect one gives to the dead.

the market is already flooded with unlettered YA novels. keep it to yourself

never heard the america right described so succinctly. thanks user

I meant that basic idea that Vampires take over a small town was the same, not the underlying themes of the story.

There's more to Shiki than just an allegory about communism I think. Its impossible for the Vampires and Humans to live together in the same political community due to forces outside either's control. Its kind of about Carl Schmitt's friend enemy distinction in that way.

Ligotti, Campbell, Klein (when he was writing), and Cisco are probably closer to being contemporary Lovecrafts.

Literally the only reason I started reading it, but it's so fucking boring.
Id at least be content, if there was some descriptive killing in the meantime, but it's just rambling.

That's King for you.

Thought bout just dling the audiobook or something, so I could just idle it while doing other things.
The narrations is so slow though

>audiobooks
Disgusting. But I wouldn't blame you. It's King. The self-proclaimed Big Mac and fries of literature.

I was only captivated, really captivated in a bored housewife on an airplane type of way, when Mike has the encounter with the giant bird. I read it on the train, and didn't finish the chapter by the time I got to work, and I was yearning to pick it up again and finish it. But now I'm farther along and it's tedious again. The problem is there are too many goddamn characters. I'm at the part where they all return to Derry as adults and they go their separate ways, and that means seven separate chapters all in the same pattern. It's a slog.

The best parts though are the recounts of the murders that happen outside the main story. Those are legitimately creepy, probably because they are so brief.

If King is the HPL of our era then Clive Barker is the Clark Ashton Smith of our era. So no.

Best horror writers? Good collections to into Lovecraft?