Serious Question

Are there any good black authors whose writing's subject matter has nothing to do with their race or ethnicity? I'm curious.

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>muh struggle
Nope.

Dumas.

full black bud, not sliver black

Yeah kind of, he is a quadroon though

Marlon James writes about Jamaica and tends to focus on violence done by blacks to themselves, excepting Book of Night Women
Chigozi Obioma writes about his childhood in Nigeria and doesnt address white people at all.
Octavia Butler dabbles in racialism, but her early series were more anti-christian
this of course

unfortunately thats the theme for many, im not racist at all, but i dont like stories that run on that thesis or premise, im colorblind for a reason, is there really no black authors that make universal escapist stories?

is being black a theme in these stories or is the context in a black community ex: Jamaica because those are two different things, one is exhausting and uninteresting the other is perfectly intriguing

Dumas makes obama look like wesley snipes, not in the offensive steretypical way i mean in literal complexion, he was a dab black if anything, i think most white people have a dab black

Pushkin

Well for instance, John Crow's Devil is about a village in central jamaica that is the center of a fight between two rival preachers. The characters are black and jamaican, but thats because the characters are black and jamaican.
Brief History will have characters that are race conscious (and one of them is a white Times reporter), but that is incidental to power, poverty, addiction, violence, and eternity
The Fishermen is Stand by Me in small town nigeria in the 90s. Butler's early series are about apocalyptic california and huge cults.

>i think most white people have a dab black

Literal retard.

zane

Same as Dumas dood

The over racialization of American academia has ruined the reputations of these to fine men.
For shame.

So John Crow's Devil and The Fisherman are two that pay no mind to a racial aspect

You can say that again. Whoever instigated and fueled the fire for identity politics is going to hell.

I'd say Brief History too. 60% of it is jamaican gang politics, 30% slices of life, and 9% bob marley. Maybe 1% is a gay guy moving to NYC so he can get fucked without going to jail, or a white reporter feeling bad for fucking jamaican girls.

>why do people write about their own experiences!

>gay
aww fuck, nothing personal, Brief History it is then aha

i didnt say they can't write that idiot, i just dont want to read it myself, its a dead horse that keeps getting beaten for me personally, and i feel bad for black writers cuz i KNOW for a fact they dont want to continually write about their specific oppression, they want to write a moby dick just like everyone else faggot

pbs.org/black-culture/explore/10-black-authors-to-read/

OP is correct, it is an embarrassment. Look at this list, every one of them wrote their marquee work on muh struggles with racism. There are SO MANY latin and south american authors that go out of their way to write interesting a novel stories that have nothing to do with racial composition. Same with India. American blacks cant write anything else.

Tracy k Smith

What about all the white people who write about the problems they face?

this
its not about skin though and is universal problems any one can put they're shoes in and more importantly is NOT REPPETTIVE, if every black writer is writing muh oprresion muh skin muh white people devil, its fucking a hugh turn off, no one reads that shit, not even blacks, only phony liberal whites

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He´s amazing. Read everything you could find of him. He's very universal in his subject matters

Also, Shakespeare's works were written by a black lesbian woman named Laquisha. She doesn't get recognition because people are racists as fuck

>Brazilian

Brazil has great literature tho

Race bait thread. Africans have only recently joined the Western world. You just wanted to complain about them because you are insecure about something.

His work is untranslatable though.

Soyinka

Dumas

Of course it is.
People say this about every writer.

Lima Barreto

>not actually black, just a mix between black and native

Chinua Achebe is an African who wrote Things Fall Apart which is a book about colonization which portrays both sides pretty accurately, and holding neither on a pedestal.

Alexander Dumas
Pushkin

Born on a Tuesday is about black Muslims in Nigeria. Doesn't talk about white people at all. Other than a passing mention.

He would be considered black in America.
He's brazilian. There's not that many pure blacks there. They are all mixed

Maybe some heavily mixed european ones from the18th century, but certainly none after the '60s.

You could maybe argue Delany, but then again, you did say
>good
Also, on the flip side agains him not being all about muh oppressed negroes, you get Hogg.

>Marlon James
>good
>black author whose writing's subject matter has nothing to do with his race or ethnicity
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>black author whose writing's subject matter has nothing to do with his race or ethnicity
It has something to do with his nationality, but he sure as fuck does not channel afro-am obsessive racialism.

I'm sure your ideas of good are fed to you by some college professor you unoriginal hack, so that isnt even a point of contention.

>I'm sure your ideas of good are fed to you by some college professor you unoriginal hack
Project harder. I graduated almost 10 years ago. From engineering, not the liberal arts garbage you're projecting.

>Seven killings
>sure as fuck does not channel afro-am obsessive racialism
Sure thing buddy.

But yeah, both Delany and Marlon James are, at best, pulp. Yeah, they both tried to be, in their own way and at certain point, different facets of Burroughs. That doesn't make them good. It makes them tryhard wannabes. And by the way, I'd take Delany over James - even fucking Hogg - any day of the week.

>Yeah, they both tried to be, in their own way and at certain point, different facets of Burroughs.

Now I know you haven't read James. Btw, everything you said reeks of over-compensating pseud.

>muh dis is pulp so i don't read it, i only read da classics
>muh engineering degree lol i'm so brainy xd

I bet you post on /pol/ too. That would be the icing on the cake.

It's called redpill, sweety. We need at least one thread on women, one on Jews, and one on blacks at all time on this board. It's fighting back against cultural marxism, because these groups are inferior to us as white men and need to be shown to the public

You can get rid of everyone you don't like and the problems you have will still exist.

>muh dis is pulp so i don't read it, i only read da classics
I do read pulp. Fuck, I HEAVILY read modern japanese pulp. And I've read a lot of Delany. I just have the capacity of understanding it's not good. I eat at McDonalds too, from time to time, and I like their food overall (depends though. I don't eat onions, and some of their sauces are very pungent. Anyway), but I wouldn't say it's good food.

>Now I know you haven't read James
I have, though I dropped it about 200 pages in. Luckily I have an overall strict "only buy after liking what you pirated" policy.

What I meant by that was, Delany wrote Hogg to emulate Burroughs' Naked Lunch, and James wrote Seven Killings to emulate Burroughs' The Wild Boys.

Of course, I understand why that would fly way over your head. I'm sure you yourself haven't finished Seven Killings, much less read Delany or Burroughs.

>muh engineering degree lol i'm so brainy xd
I'm literally replying to this argument:
>I'm sure your ideas of good are fed to you by some college professor you unoriginal hack
But keep on smackin' dem lips.

i meant hes not black

Honestly this. Give them some time, people.

>doesnt want to read about race
>gets accused of race baiting
i hope you are not black because if you are, you are a dead weight and shackle to your community

but america is a standard for retardation

don't be a retarded
Guimarães Rosa and James Joyce have translations, so why can't fucking Machado de Assis have translation when his use of the language isn't as unique?

>african
this thread is about black authors not Africans specifically you race baiting fuckin cucks, i actually HATE (((((people))))) like you

Is Othello the greatest black character ever that anyone can understand without being black

Aesop

>most famous African American works came out during years of great racial upheaval in America
>Why do they always write about race?

Really, nigga? What you should be asking is what modern blacks, and not just African Americans, are writing about.

You have no one to blame but your ancestors, whitey.

listen you dumb faggot, i asked for black authors who don't write about race, i dont give a fuck to writers who do, more power to them, there is such thing as black people who dont share that experience you schmuck, you gotta get rid of that inferiority complex and entitlement people dont give a fuck about your personal gripes, one day on the grave youll understand, we all will

>idenity politics
>whiteys fault
>whitey
nice try bud, take your faux bleeding heart away from the speakerphone and asking white people to appease you, im black btw, dumb fuck

Since he was a wannabe white, he never paid attention to racial problems.

That's just stupid.

>spot the american

*stop asking

based, a visionary, who saw through the bullshit tribalistic human condition, a man with dignity for all people

>white guy writes a story about white guys
>its about human problems
>black guy writes a story about black guys
>its about "black issues"

>black people that don't share in the experience of being black
????
Now who's the dumb faggot? What you're really looking for is black authors that don't talk about racial oppression and they're plenty of them. Alice Walker, Samuel Delaney, Marlon James, Zadie Smith, James Baldwin, Octavia Butler, and countless others.

>im black btw
Sure you are, nigga. White Americans are the ones who forced the id pol meme and you know it.

Pushkin was semitic, there was nothing negro about him.

>Japanese guy writes a story about Japanese people
>it's about Japanese issues

Maybe they're writing to a specific audience, is that such a problem?

Its an issue because you'd laugh someone out of a room if he said Hamlet was merely "white people problems" and not something everyone should read

Chester Himes

There are plenty of black writers who have some work where race is the main theme and some where it's nearly irrelevant, such as James Baldwin and August Wilson.

Dumas at least looks black but Pushkin looks like your average Slav.

>Japanese guy writes a story about Japanese people
>it's about Japanese issues
he says while having only read the very basics of japanese literature at best.

Oh fuck off senpai

Well, technically Hamlet is about the issues of Danish royalty and it is about the issues surrounding a wealthy class of people. It's more rich people problems than white people, but that doesn't make it an uninteresting story. You can boil down any story into a bare bones format like that, but it's just the setting. Why is it okay to do that to black works but not white ones? Blackness is just a setting.

Japan, like most interesting and/or developed cultures, carries with it a generalized identity that filters and distorts human commonality in a unique and insightful way. The Japanese man cannot simply write over and over again the agony of radiation blisters caused by American bombing and gain distinction, but the negro, aided by the overly-enabled and under-expected white woman, can simply slur words against anything at all, without coherency or style or any pithy aspect, and it is praised past Pluto.
Literally any published Japanese, down to the eroge scum, is better than a Pulitzer negro.

>I don't read works written by blacks because of my preconceived notions

Why not just say that?

are you fucking retarded you self centered ape, no wonder they call us niggers, theyre are blacks from the suburbs, blacks from europe or other partds of the world, there are even blacks from the ghettos from america that dont attribute their upbringing to racism you slug, youre just a crybaby taking out on the one your jealous of

>aided by the overly-enabled and under-expected white woman

No its the Jews man, its the Jews

no blackness is the reppettive cycle, ebery sotry being about black ((((oppresion)))) is stale as fuck over and over, dead horse being milked like a slave for no offspring, no one wants to read the same shit reppeatedly

this oly chit, and im black

>Implying I haven't met a black person, or several hundred for that matter
>Implying I haven't worked under and over them
>Implying I haven't read Dumas and recognize him as a white [read: upright] man, and though I defer on his style, enjoy him and his.
You're just miming preset retaliations against muh raysissm instead of asking questions or making undermining accusations.

Percival Everett. (So Much Blue)

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I always saw Samuel Delany in lists about black writers... What the fuck? Is this considered black in the US?

>dat nose hair
>dem blackheads

Oh god, I'm about to puke

Maybe that's why they consider him black, cause he's such a nasty unkempt fuck

jolly saint nick back from da bahamas

No. Even white authors write about black's race and ethnicity because they have compassion.

Now imagine a black author writing about a white guy who must pass through a ghetto and gets robbed by niggers.
This will never happen.

This also happens with sex issues probably. Imagine a woman writing about some guy who is lonely virgin just because he's shy and introvert and kills himself.
If you want to oppose me, give example as counterargument.

Eric Andre

Came here to write this. The question remains: has he really wrote his most famous books though or just jazzed up whatever his associate wrote.

It's an ok book. The Donald Goines too are entertaining.

Stop it, Nazi asswipe. You fool no one.

Fuck yourself, retard. Back to /pol/

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