Publishing

Why don't we start a publishing house?

Well you see, goyim...

Good point, it would be way too difficult for us low-IQ subhumans to manage in such a competitive industry. May as well take up manual HFT.

Who cares. They can cosplay as whatever they want, that won't make them good.

I'm actually a jew and I assure you that I personally find this to be outrageous.

The contemporary literary scene has been completely overtaken by feminism. Just look at what gets peddled these days. Most literature published in this day in age has an ethnic female protagonist struggling against the "patriarchy". Male authors are now using gender fluid pseudonyms to hide their true gender and every title has the word "girl" in it.

The only acceptable modern male authors are those that pose no threat to this model such as James Patterson, Christopher Moore and Dan Brown.

Such bullshit. If you were talented and hard working enough you could get published and find an audience. But you're not, so you blame women and an imaginary system rigged against you for your own shortcomings

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>Tramp Press
Literally whos trying to get some free publicity and OP giving it to them?

They are New York magazines. 18% of the population is jewish in new york. Also russian jewish family historically encourage pursuing of literary education, while whites have been discouraging it for more practical pursuits. Read the biographies of Malmud or Bellow or Roth to see the importance they put on the humanities as a way to integrate in white society.

I hope you don't expect anyone with half a brain to accept this attempt to rationalize jewish ethnic nepotism.

The first criterium is legit, the sexond criterium is very sexist itself.

You're missing the point. Jewish men view white men as their enemy, thus jews promote women and non-whites to diminish the power of white men and entrench their own power.

True, we low IQ subhumans simply can't stop our subhuman nature of trying to be morally virtuous and make everyone have the same chance... If only we could be nepotist tribalists like the most intelligent race, the askhenazi semites, but sadly we are not cut for it.

Doesn't it ever bother you that the very things you accuse Jews of doing and use as justification for your behaviour, such as lying and deceiving to try and manipulate people, is exactly what you're doing now? You only believe they do it, you know for certain that you do. How do you rationalise this?

I thought it was the Jews who were forcing equal rights SJW bullshit on us?

Yes, for them all goyim are equal

Notice the jewish projection this jewish poster is trying to use to deflect attention away from jewish behavior. This is a common tactic.

Oh right, it's only the blacks who aren't human.

Pretty derailed thread.
How about we ACTYALLY run a publishing company? Anyone have the numbers on what this would cost? I imagine it's comparable to running a record label, which is pretty easy now a days (though getting noticed in our overaaturated world is difficult) but hell there's a lot of really interesting ideas floating around the chans.

Are you really too thick to see the hypocrisy of what you're posting or are you doing it on purpose?

It would be a pretty shitty sort of nepotism since most literary journal editors do pretty shitty salaries and most of them can't support themselves on that alone (treisman for example is married to some rich dude).

Also good job putting Buzzfeed in there among "literary" magazines

>shit tier reading comprehension
No it means that all goyim are equal among themselves but compared to a jew, just a part of his nail isn't worth even of all the goyim. They are not called the chosen for nothing

We're under constant attack from crackpot insane /pol/tards who think everything is a Jewish conspiracy

inb4 jidf, reddit, etc.

The only status of affair that would prove that the jews are not cheating is by having every editor position given to a white male.

No one wants to read the retreaded garbage Veeky Forumsposters spew out. Besides that, everyone here, myself excluded, is a broke loser with no work ethic or connections in the industry.

>derailed
It's bait

There's no hypocrisy, I am merely pointing out a phenomenon of nature engaged in by tribalist jews, and you are trying to distort the importance of such an observation because you belong to that group of tribalist jews.

I'm glad I can't see inside your head, user. It must be a very scary and confusing place.

I think you're underestimating the importance of controlling information as it relates to maintaining power. That's the main purpose here.

A. Not many writers actually start their cover letter with, "Dear Sirs".

B. This is a tiny, insignificant regional lit mag that will be out of business in 6 months.

In short, who gives a flying shit?

I actually started one a few years ago then I left it because I got a better job.

It's around 4 to 8k to print on demand 300 copies. That's the most cost effective solution if you are going to sell from your garage without a huge distribution network and advertisement.

OP here. I genuinely started the thread to see if rhere was any interest. It shouldn't be hard to select a few books, crowdfund the printing of a nice, small edition, and move it around.

Yeah there's some silly stuff but man sometimes there's REALLY inspiring and fun inventive stuff. So let's break it down. We need
1. Cash.
2. Editors
3. A contract with a physical book printing company.
4. Advirtisers.

This isn't really any different from the music label my friend and I run. We have jobs to pony up the cash to press vinyl. The editor is lile the masterer for the music.
Any book printer will print whatever shit you send him, he won't give a fuck if yor with the tribe or not, only that you have the cash for whatever is their limited amount for a copying run.

So to recap, maybe my money from engineering can go to running a publishing company on the side. I really don't see how hard this is.

The only people that read literary journals are dorks. How many of your highschool graduating class has read even a single issue of the paris review?

On "trigger":

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Yeah this is similar to printing records, about 2k for 250 record pressing (the minimum).
Last step would be picking up distributors aka amazon, books a million, Barnes and noble, walmart, whatever.

People see the facts as they are these days. It's in your nature to try and minimize the importance of that but pathologizing the goyim is a weak and ineffective strategy. Try something new.

>13$ to 27$ a copy

Fuck, that's a lot of money.

That explains the price of books. Just like with record sales there is no money in it unless you hit a best seller, which really comes down to exposure like getting io9 and places like that with audiences who read to make reviews of it. That probably requires paying them. I know in electronic music to get Resident Advisor to review your music you need to pay. To have it reviewed favoribly you have to pay a few grand.

Nah, I'm not looking for cash. I would just like to find a genuinely good book and get it published.

Oh, of course. I'm just saying...or really thinking out loud and comparing it to our record label. There isn't profit here really so you can't live off it. But it's fun as hell and I think publishing books would be a neat hobby. I'm really like the idea.

Friendly advice: if you want to start a successful publishing house (or at least garner some name recognition)
you have to name your group "white man press" and state explicitly that you will only take submissions from white men. This should attract a lot of media attention. State your goals clearly: you are tired of the derisive and toxic attitude of the feminists that dominate the publishing industry, and you want a place where white men can be assured that their works won't be dismissed or discriminated against because of their race or gender. Of course I doubt anyone here has the will to actually start a publishing house.

How did you get in touch with bands? Just via internet? Besides the actual pressing, is there anything else you do that isn't computer work?

Our first book should be a leather bound definitive edition of My Twisted World

One actually off of Veeky Forums believe it or not who's become a good friend. The rest are from party/gig connections bc now a days mostly musicians go out to see other musicians and the rest of the bystanders are just there to get fucked up regardless of if a band was there or not. That's how most music connections work nowadays.
Of course, no one buys music any more, and no one reads, but if you had a niche like the poster above suggested you could actually get attention. Any press is good press and I think that's not a bad idea. When I'm done with uni I might start a publishing house. I'm really into this idea.

Because we either don't have the capital or an established audience and demand that would convince somebody with capital to invest in our publishing house. How are you going to convince authors to sign exclusive deals with you and how are you going to create physical books and market them to a unestablished audience?

>there are redditors on this board right NOW who are still bluepilled on the Jews

This guy has an interesting idea:
But there's also the probability that from the political pressure any large companies actually carrying the physical media would drop the books.
Perhaps then that's not exactly what to do but the idea sure is close.

>the feminists that dominate the publishing industry
Are you afraid to mention jews, or what? Women are only obedient functionaries under the current jewish system.

You mean white male press? I guess it could draw attention.

With clever social media trolling it could become sort of popular, which would attract submissions. Maybe it could start with a short story contest only for white males (or people writing as well as), and see where it goes from there.

>the average reader of contemporary literature is split between female college students and middle-aged women
>publisher establishes new editorial rules that lead to the publishing of books these women read
>hmm what is the point
>maybe
>maybe it's a cheap publicity stunt and they're catering to the mark-
>OH I KNOW IT'S THE FUCKING J E W S AGAIN

Veeky Forums is truly the place for intellectuals

I hate how unfunny live action trolling has become. I seriously think that if these women in publishing want to make a grand point, they ought to try opening a white men press to even the playing field. It's a shame they don't get how much the world needs them to be the leaders of this movement. I for one would think it'd be fucking hilarious to avow someone else's principals and then go publish the worst of the worst with the best marketing possible, making sure that the white man author is helped to his podium by a strong confident woman. I really want to see this. Why am I so misunderstood? Does no see the glory of such a spectacle anymore, or are we all sure that promoting our convictions into the void is helping anything, anyone. Where is the love? What happened to that face that use to be there in that position that I kept it in when I was bored or sacred? You know, like where is the actual journal that speaks for me and you and has no listeners, but doesn't need them, because that's not the point - the point being that what is to be done is to be done with a grand laughter in our hearts, a laughter that fills the ages like time were silence. I miss the possibility of love and the anticipation of a joke. It's hard to explain how oral fixations are different from visual addictions. Could we maybe make our case and present it to a group of well educated heathens so as to trouble them with history and its malcontents?

It's like the slapstick of yesteryear, but a bumbling in bubble reasoning. I only wish people typed out what the pop is like, if it's a bang, ect. Seems like a whimpering deflation that drains way too inaudibly.

The leaders of the groupthinkers are fun marks though. Pretty easy to see that their bluster is mostly that. But some points are hard to denounce. Good to have them speaking instead of plot I guess.

And who the fuck doesn't know no one says anything in public that doesn't know that no one says who the fuck doesn't know?

What retard in this day and age literally writes "Dear Sirs," and not "Dear Sir/Madam" regardless of your opinions on genders

>Women behind Irish independent Tramp Press
>Tramp Press
>Tramp
>Donald Tramp
>Donald Trump

Tramp Stamp

Because it's pretty expensive, and since most of Veeky Forums can't write for shit, it'd be instantly in loss.
As for the pic, the first part makes perfect sense but given the prevalences of male writers, it seems bit over the top.

It's way easier with music due the lower entry "effort" for customers. Reading is a much heavier investment of time and you'd want to be sure it's worth it, say the books is from an already famous writer or a newspaper talked about it.

Editors is another thing that's much harder, there isn't really a way to be wrong with music, while the language got clear rules and only few would be able to get away breaking them, and this is all before the much bigger issue of content. Simple shit like cover design + editor + advertising would be probably already too much.

captcha: whiteness security

It's been attempted many times.

One, it's fucking hard and requires a lot of work. Nobody on Lit wants any part of that.

Two, the vast majority of shit lit produces is completely unreadable, unmarketable rambling garbage that nobody wants to read.

This. Seriously this isn't 1911

>18% of the population is jewish in new york

Horseshit

This.

Think it's like 25% in Manhattan. NYC is a jew-infested rat hole.

So is the rest of the site. And to be honest, out of the big boards, Veeky Forums is one of the least affected. Try boards bronswing boards like Veeky Forums and /int/, you'll see how bad things are.

And just like that, the era of Irish literary excellence comes to a close, not with a bang, but a whimper.

>Let's start a publishing company that doesn't discriminate against white males!
>Also fuck /pol/tard wrongthink lmao

Not that guy but The Paris Review may be a poor example. They get a lot of very high-end advertisers so I think it's actually read by well-off people in New York and such.

Jews only care about control over information outlets because the main goal is to be able to manipulate the information that is ultimately produced. That's all that matters. They are happy to lose money or customers and to even sink the industry itself as long as resources stay out of non-jewish hands. They'll always be able to find wealthy jewish donors regardless. This is how ethnic monopolies work, and jews are an ethnic mafia.

>Of course I doubt anyone here has the will to actually start a publishing house.
It doesn't really look like it's a particularly profitable market.

It's read by ppl in the industry and in colleges. It's pretty much the top of the game.

But now think: how many people from your high school have read one issue?

So imagine how little influence they have.

Yeah? So why are they not doing the same with YouTubers and podcasts? Where is the Jewish control of that information?

Tramp Press is a publishing company founded in Dublin in 2014 by Lisa Coen and Sarah Davis-Goff. It is an independent publisher that specialises in Irish fiction.[1] The company is named after John Millington Synge's tramp, a reference to the bold outsider.[2]

It's a marketing gimmicking. You cant start a publishing house because you don't realize the value of marketing gimmicks.
Do you think they are actually going to say no to any potential big author that assumes they are men or only lists male influences? Hell no, no one will even report of them in a month. In the meantime they can make the blog roll for free advertisement.

my nose guys, its so fucking big and hard right now

YouTube is owned by Google which is a jewish company that is very much in the ethnic information management business. Try to do at least a little research into this stuff if you ever expect to be informed about it.

All these replies are depressing. What's stopping Veeky Forums from making a basic wordpress blog and publishing short pieces of fiction and prose?

Yes it won't go anywhere but if people enjoy writing fiction then it'd be a perfectly serviceable place to post work. It'd also be good experience and offer a nice feeling to see your stories posted somewhere.

People start blogs all the time. I find it crazy that a place this popular can't do the same.

>Do you think they are actually going to say no to any potential big author that assumes they are men or only lists male influences?
Yes

no, its a con you dumbass. All this sjw crap is a con. Despite all of them talking about how important it is to be inclusive an shit. None of them actually do it. They want YOU to do.
For example, Laurie David who helped produce an inconvenient truth and is an enviornmentalist, on boards and a huffpo blogger:

In an interview with The Guardian in November 2006, David acknowledged that owning two homes on opposite sides of the country and flying in a private jet several times per year is at odds with her message to others. In the interview she notes "Yes, I take a private plane on holiday a couple of times a year, and I feel horribly guilty about it. I probably shouldn't do it. But the truth is, I'm not perfect. This is not about perfection. I don't expect anybody else to be perfect either. That's what hurts the environmental movement – holding people to a standard they cannot meet. That just pushes people away."[9]

In 2005, and then again in 2009, David was cited by the Chilmark Conservation Commission for paving over protected wetland areas on her estate on Martha's Vineyard.[10]

What's wrong with being sexy?

I'll do it

Jesus, this is worse than "I am vegan - what do you mean, eating chicken isn't vegan?" type of shit.

I'll make a WordPress and start creating threads requesting material. I'll also follow critical threads too see if there's anything worthwhile in there. Dubs decides domain name

taktak.nu is Veeky Forums related and open to submissions generally. pretty much the same thing only slightly more established. rumour has it katie did a piece for them.

So that is the only one I can't make another ok I was just trying to help

U didn't even suggest a name

oh yes you're right, lots of people making separate, dilute splinter groups is always the best way for a project to succeed.

I'm not here to rocket you to literary fame.

If you support the idea of another public domain where pieces are contributed and read on the basis of entertainment and love for literature then I can offer assistance.

I'm on here regularly and could post the link semi-regularily so that our work could be preserved, revisited and publicised.

You still haven't suggested a domain name.

you could try fluland, they do it too. the world isn't lacking in publishers, there's not a lot of demand for more that just stick your submission up on their wordpress and call it a day

I'm offering to create a blog for people's work here and you continuously suggest other blogs to me which do not have a direct affiliation with Veeky Forums. I'm not the one trying to get my writing published here. Someone else suggested a WordPress blog, I offered to run it and your contribution was an attacks at my effort to help. As is evident from my last post I am offering slightly more than "throwing work up on WordPress and calling it a day."

Nice trips, have you thought of a domain name yet?

both the publications I've mentioned have connections with Veeky Forums, directly (taktak) or indirectly (fluland). If you want to help people reach out to their own crowd, do submissions calls for one or both of them like you're suggesting you could do for the one you'd run.

How would I do submission calls for a site that I have no involvement with?

ask them if they want submissions. they say yes, make a post about it. duh.

You still misunderstand my goal here. I am not a work horse here to do footwork for people to lazy to do it themselves. Curating a collection would be a hobby, facilitating others' publication without expectation of return would be self-imposed slavery.

why can't shilling for them be a hobby? you're doing more for the community than you would by splintering it further. the only difference is direct ego feedback

You sound like your mother still cooks for you. That's right, though. I would make delicious pasta for myself and you wouldn't get any.

Just because something is published somewhere doesn't mean it can't be published somewhere else.

Thought of a domain name yet?

hollo (thats my name)

you have a good idea. this people is insufferable.

uhuh. good luck with your vanity project

sorry, this was for

why vanity?. you are fucked. if you are rigorous (specially in lit world) everything is vanity. the guy just offer himself to rule a blog. come on.

vanity because you're only interested in being involved if you're in control

>vanity
>anonymity

Thanks, I look forward to blog and literary stardom!

The object of vanity is recognition, not power. You can help me curate it if you want, it would make the job easier. I provide a domain and get the simple pleasure of reading and maintaining the work of others in return.

I have entertained your directionless attacks until now but from this point on if you do not wish to contribute positively you will be ignored.

okay, not vanity project, power trip.