>"There is no single Greek literary work of art as great as The Divine Comedy; there is no extant series of works by a single Greek literary artist as impressive as the complete plays of Shakespeare; as a period of sustained creative activity in one medium, the seventy-five-odd years of Athenian drama, between the first tragedies of Aeschylus and the last comedy of Aristophanes are surpassed by the hundred and twenty-five years, between Gluck's Orpheus and Verdi's Otello, which comprise the golden age of European opera..." > - W. H. Auden
How will the Greeks ever recover from such a BTFO?
Nathan Brown
I am Greek
Robert Hughes
I'm sorry
Julian Ortiz
>W. H. Auden They had a democracy while you were swinging on trees
Luis King
>There is no single Greek literary work of art as great as The Divine Comedy; there is no extant series of works by a single Greek literary artist as impressive as the complete plays of Shakespeare correct
Matthew Diaz
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Auden is a Pictish name. His ancestors were squatting in caves gnawing on human bones while Greeks were building western civilization.
Jack Campbell
And the Egyptians had built the Pyramids before you even thought to start fucking other men.
Thomas Thomas
>greeks >made some of the most impressive monuments in human history that still baffle the modern man in their complexity and artistic value >egyptians >"uh, we made like a stone pyramid or smth idk" yeah, totally comparable
Blake Wilson
the fact that he picked that over paradise lost shows he likes pulp more than actual depth in writing
Joseph Turner
An estimated 90% of ancient Greek works have been lost. Mostly via library burnings by both Christian and Muslim fanatacists.
Xavier Thomas
pay detbs
Eli Bell
Burning pagan "art" is not a crime.
Brody Cruz
neck yourself, uncultured mongrel
David Ortiz
Which Christain burning are you referencing?
Jacob Wright
Piss your pants, slithering bush
Sebastian Evans
given your ideas, if you were born in the Middle East you would make a great ISIL recruit
Joshua Brown
What does that prove? Many countries were democracies while Auden was swinging from trees.
Ryan Gray
...assuming he ever swung from trees, of course.
Ryan Harris
>The Divine Comedy This is the first classic I'm having a hard time with tbph. It doesn't do much for me. Just one damned soul after another.
Brayden Phillips
>the seventy-five-odd years of Athenian drama, between the first tragedies of Aeschylus and the last comedy of Aristophanes are surpassed by the hundred and twenty-five years, between Gluck's Orpheus and Verdi's Otello
Henry Robinson
it's almost as if Dante and Shakespeare had millennia of literary tradition from myriad civilizations to draw upon
Daniel Brown
this
Thomas Bennett
>millennia of literary tradition from myriad civilizations Yet they only drew from Ancient Greek and Roman sources. hmm
Luis Howard
same, im not getting it, will re-read after some secondary texts and hope i get something from it.
Jackson Bailey
fuck kαζαντζαkη
Elijah Barnes
>Hamlet >Richard III >Macbeth I could go on
Gavin Smith
Not even true
Justin Ortiz
In his lecture What is a Classic, Eliot pointed out that a society needs to have a common, matured language and a mature sensibility and culture for one of its geniuses to produce a classic. He singles out Virgil as the classic writer par excellence because Rome had the tradition of the Greeks to react to, the recent fall of its own republic and rise of its empire to meditate on, and he had a fully mature idiom to both use to its fullest and stretch out beyond the confines of.
He points out Dante as being perhaps closest to Virgil, Shakespeare as a great genius with a mature sensibility but not a mature idiom to flex (in fact, he was at the cutting edge of creating English), and poets such as Milton as usuibg a mature idiom but living in a immature, partly decadent society.
Of course, by his weird definition of a classic, the Greeks don't qualify. But I think he's on to something.