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Anyone else make their own wine, cider, moonshine?

I make my own cider but that's it

I've got 3 x 32L fermentation buckets. Keep looking on ebay for the kit required to build a pressure cooker still.
Dumb though, as I'm currently 14 days sober and just about clinging to sobriety. Some retarded part of me is trying to convince me that it'd just be a hobby and that it wouldn't be a problem. I wouldn't end up drinking ten litres of it every day and find myself straight back in hell, no, this is a wholesome and enjoyable hobby.

Pretty sure I'm just on the edge of death every day now. I drink dozens of drinks every day, can't bend over or twist without my liver hurting like hell, am sick all the time, and every day off is just me lying in bed recovering and having a beer every once in a while to keep the withdrawals at bay. I can't keep drinking and I can't quit. There's only one way out, and I'm okay with that. It's just a matter of when.

It doesn't typically just happen one day though, it's a slow disintegration of your body and mind, like being agonisingly tortured to a slow and horrific death.

Who else is too ashamed to buy alcohol at 9am on a weekday just as the store is opening? I know I shouldn't care about what some random cashier thinks but this just seems to be going too far, I'm gonna try to hold out til 12

Well, yeah. But it's going to happen at some point. I don't have jaundice or anything yet, but there's no way I'm not pretty far on the path. My memory's shot, I have no concentration, have a hard time staying awake, have really high blood pressure, am sick all the time, and constant pain just under my ribs. Honestly, I expect I'll probably have a stroke or heart attack before I die of liver failure, but we'll see.

I stopped caring what the cashiers think long ago. They all know. I used to drive all around town changing up where I buy my alcohol, but my drinking problem became so bad that they all recognized me anyway, so I just stopped giving a fuck, and just go wherever's closest. At first they expressed thinly-veiled worry and judgment, and eventually they stopped giving a fuck too. They know what I am now, so they just started going along with it and got all friendly because I'm a regular.

This is why I only buy alcohol at the 7-11 3 blocks away from my house - fuck what they think.
I can still go to any grocery store, or anywhere else in town for other things and no one in those locations has any fucking idea what a shit drunk I am.

>But it's going to happen at some point.
yes

first 12 hours of my sobriety. feels good boys

What state do you live in where they sell anything drinkable at the 7-11?
They don't even sell hard liquor.

>They don't even sell hard liquor.
true
but I'm a wino in CA, I drink 3 bottles of wine a day

I respect this. Better than the people who suck down shitty beer out of tall boy cans. Those people are trash.

not me. i used to be there at 5:59am, throwing up and shaking, knock everything off the shelves, be unable to type my pin, have to run outside in front of other customers to throw up, etc etc. whatever it took. 20 mins later and the shaking stopped, the cosiness had hit and i'd spend another productive day falling over and breaking shit, playing music way too loud and laughing at the same old youtube videos i'd watched 1,000 times, while ethanol convinced me that i was a god-tier chad. and made me piss myself.

>implying you can't do both
>implying you're too good for one or the other

>go for nightwalk last night
>had about 15-18 drinks
>not drunk drunk but calm and feeling nice
>I guess walking though a multi million dollar neighborhood at night is suspicious as fuck so the police stop me
>"where ya headed buddy?"
>No where, Going for a walk. My dad lives here
>"you been drinkin a little bit user?"
>yea a little
>"smells like more than a little, How about I give you ride back to your dads?"
>cop gives me a ride back to my dads
>literally walks me to the door because he says he concerned I'm too drunk to walk
>I feel fine, Have about 10 more drinks then doze off on the couch


Now I realize how tolerance affects people, I didn't used to believe tolerance to alcohol was a thing until a cop though I smelled so much like alcohol he walked me home like a frat boy who was falling down drunk

Two weeks, still awake all night every night, just get a few shit patches of sleep in the daytime. I’m so fucking pissed off with it that I’m thinking of relapsing just to get some fucking sleep.

How much would I have to spend up front to get everything I need to make my own vodka?

yeah dude i make kilju
costs about a dollar a day for just some sugar and yeast
two buck s i guess

Sod all. YouTube “pressure cooker still”. Might be illegal though.

yeah I got grape wine about finishing up
it has a strong taste (dont know the exact word in english, but when you drink it it feels like it has a lot of % in it).
It is yeast-free btw, all natural fermentation.

Cheers

here in eastern europe you could get a nice distiller for 200eu (high capacity, 2-3l/h), or you could even make one yourself if you have tools and have a tiny bit of brain to use them.
That's pretty much all it is. If youre gonna be making small amounts of it, you wont need big containers so a couple of bux (for fermenting the ferment).
You will need a source of heat so either gas or lumber.

Also I'd like to hear more about this from other anons.

30 quid for a pressure cooker and a fivers worth of copper pipe should be enough for a cheap still

Yeah, I don't see how someone who frequents these threads modifying and using a pressure cooker could possibly go wrong.

I you're making it yourself deffo hop over to /diy/, theres usually a still/brew thread and they'll save you time and money and maybe your eyebrows.

Also your foolhardy attempts will give them a good chuckle.

I normally don't break promises, if I'm really drunk I send 1 text out asking for a later time and date to talk.

I make that call and have that conversation sober, but when the agreed time gets delayed for any reason ... yea I might have started drinking again.

The promise was to not call friends drunk.

There's a magical point where I still can realize I smell horribly of liquor. I realize this isn't normal. Then I just try to avoid other people and keep drinking.

3 weeks dry here. Not a huge alcoholic by al/ck/ standards but definitely drank every day for a good 3 years and did my share of regrettable stuff. I'm finally getting a lot of sleep and a pretty normal sleep pattern now that I'm sober but I'm constantly tired. Did anyone else have a similar experience ?

Ever since I got alchohol poisoned(over a vodka down in a few hours, followed by a beer. Bad combo) I've been unable to drink alcohol without getting a feeling in my stomach that I might throw up when swallowing
How can I stop this? It's been over 3 years since I got poisoned and it's still affecting me, even with beer

I haven't had a drink in 2 months and I just now got a POWERFUL craving for vodka.

sorry to hear that. we all struggle. its hard.

ugh

I went to my regular bar last night and stayed there past closing (after 2am). My favorite bartender told me I'm a professional alcoholic. I think I've been to that same bar like 6 days in a row. I don't know how to stop. It's at least better than drinking alone because I get to socialize with all of the other regulars.

The worst thing is when I woke up this morning I realized I must have pissed myself while sleeping.

If you get really bad sweats, sometimes my sweat smells awful and it's almost like piss

yeah thats normal. your body and mind are injured, basically. recovery is tiring

consider yourself lucky?

I would buy mickeys of vodka as soon as the store opened at like 7 am before and I never even got looks from cashiers ever. I decided pretty early on that I wasn't going to give a fuck and buy whatever I wanted whenever I wanted. Hell they were even friendly with me to be honest, and I'm not some super chadded out normie either. The only guy who kind of occasionally looked at me sideways only a few times was this asian man at the corner store when I lived in Seattle, and that's just because he saw me every single day without fail either getting a bottle of wine or a case of beer.
Seriously to anyone concerned about buying early just do it once or twice and it's not hard to get over. You'll be left wondering how you could have been such a bitch about it when it literally doesn't matter.

Was in the thread early last week
>was going to try and stop drinking for 7 days before beginning new job
>failed, only skipped a couple of alternate days
>last drink was saturday night
>stomach felt a little funny monday-wednesday but otherwise ok
>skin looks better, eyes don't look so dead
>belly seems to be deflating

But tomorrow is Friday so I get to get drunk tomorrow night!

Gotta cycle you alcohol store visits user. Pick 5 shops your gonna buy your booze from and don't buy from store 1 again until you've bought from stores 2-5. Repeat that pattern that way each store only sees you buying once or twice per week.

recipe?

My dad's been an alcky for about 8 years (seems weird to develop alcoholism around age 65).

He went into a particularity bad bender last month, and we convinced him to go to the hospital. A scan revealed he had a broken C2 vertebra (from falling from being drunk), so they immediately put him in a neck brace and he had surgery to repair it the next day.

He had to go through alcohol and xanax WDs in a neckbrace in the hospital. Felt pretty bad for him. They gave him ativan of course, because they can't let you have seizures from WDs, but that still must have been incredibly uncomfortable.

I hope breaking your neck is a big enough wake up call not to drink, but I know it's powerful shit.

Probably. Also my short-term memory and concentration are absolutely fucked. Thank God I only drank strg beer, can't imagine how fucking awful it would be with liquor.

>it has a strong taste (dont know the exact word in english, but when you drink it it feels like it has a lot of % in it).
don't think there's a specific word, other than "tastes strong"

I discovered that I ate a slice of chocolate pie while blackout drunk last night
I don't even remember it
wasted pie
F

I'm gonna quit being a big ol bitch and learn to drink whisky. What's the best starter whisky? I may be permanently scarred from Old Thompson in college

Day 3 sober:

Still diarrhea, thinking today might be the first day of solid shits? Maybe? I'm crank and irritable all the time. Little motivation to do anything.

My girlfriend came home the other day and just wanted to gab my ear off and it about drove me nuts. I love the girl, but holy shit women care about stupid things.

Feel pretty out of it/sometimes sorta retarded. Like I put something in microwave, go do a quick errand like some dishes and then open the fridge looking for my food. I did that sober though too sometimes if i was preoccupied.

Food is weird. I'm hungry at night, but don't have any appetite until like 2 or 3 oclock at which point I feel pretty faint. Drinking shit tons of water, only peeing a little bit, but it is clear so thats good.

Thanks for the blog post

turn into a beer alc if you wanna live longer

Xanax withdrawal is a rough one on its own, nightmares so terrifying and vivid that you'll be convinced they were real, rebound anxiety, and those are just the short term. No way of telling the damage those benzos did to your dads brain, I seriously think benzodiazepines should be illegal, they are fucking POISON

Once a cashier roasted me pretty hard, an old black guy, because when I bought my daily bottle of liquor at 10pm I said "good morning."

I really was at that place where you're not sure what time of day it is and don't care.

We had been trying to taper him off, so the last drink he had was about 9am, and he'd run out of xanax 1-2 days before. By 5pm while he was lying in a hospital bed with a neck brace, he was shaking so bad and so clammed up he could barely speak. By 2-3 days later he seemed to be doing okay WDs-wise. I'm not sure when they felt it was safe to stop the Ativan, but it had to have been for at least 2-3 days.

I frequent these threads, so I've read about that type of stuff, but seeing it up close is frightening.

I either drank too much last night or not enough

I don't know why i keep watching porn.

It makes me feel disgusted as soon as i'm done with it. Like I saw this one vid of this older lady dildo-ing herself while she talked about the hottest sex she had ever had. She was like 40.

Halfway through, I was like, "why is a 40 year old woman reduced to masturbating on the internet for shekels?" and it made me feel disgust at everything and myself.

I think it might be because since i've quit drinking I can't find much enjoyment in anything and it's like manually trying to pump some dopamine into my brain, but it only works temporarily.

I'm even put off by sex as a whole lately. Like I have a horny gf who would wanna bone all the time, but i just have no interest in anything these days.

that is a very fast taper but he made it through the rough patch so it should be easy from here, difference between benzos and alcohol imho is that once you're off benzos you're off, there is very little chance of a relapse if you can get the guy to stop outright. Anyways good luck to you and your dad mate.

I'll fucking drink like a fish when I finally reach that fucking age

Your liver can hurt?

No but if it swells it will push on other organs/your diaphragm and send severe referred pain. Your pancreas can hurt like fuck though.

Kind of. You can experience pain caused by issues with liver and gall bladder, but actually locating that pain is almost impossible.
You CANNOT count on pain you locate to your right side below the ribs to be related to your liver, or to anything anywhere near that region at all. We're just not capable of locating orgain issues the way we are with musculoskeletal ones.
If you experience intense lasting pain you should see a doctor. You cannot diagnose it just by feel.

Oh I asked because for years I've had on and off random pain, that seems to be worse when I drink on lower right, just above pelvis. Didnt think it was related to alch, even went to ER when I was on parents insurance 2 years ago because I thought it was galbladder. They didnt find nothin tho. ah well.

Gall bladder is directly under your liver, sort of integrated into the hepatic triad. Big warning sign is pain in your right shoulder as it will push on the diaphragm when swollen. Diaphgram also doesn't have it's own nocioreceptor system, but part of it lays over a nerve that does, and that refers to the shoulder.

Gall bladder would also result in white stools as bile is blocked, and billirubin isn't broken down, oil shits are liver and pancreas, or just your body detoxing as it doesn't even bother trying to reabsorb from the intestines because it moves through so fast.

Generally speaking, if you have pancreatitis you would probably know it. You wouldn't be able to keep food down, severe pain, disgusting shits.

Not a doctor, just a nigga with a masters who happens to work in biomed devices even tho i am an alc, although currently miserably sober

it's 2 in the afternoon and I'm getting drunk just to deal with walking my dog around the block

I had similar issues once and they eventually diagnosed it as stress related. It eventually passed and hasn't come back. Some people do manifest their worries very somatically.
You don't know until you get a checkup, though.

Well thanks anyway! I dont have any of that stuff so I guess its just some other random thing. Had blood work and Xray that didnt show anything and been going on for like three years so if its cancer Id be dead already. More drinks tonight.

Yeah that's kind of what worries me. What else is there to do to enjoy life when you're 72?

The problem was that he became terribly dysfunctional--he still has a full time job (directs a psych dept at a mental hospital, ironically), and is mismanaging his real estate and financial accounts.

I guess you gotta do one or the other--either you get rid of your responsibilities and drink as much as you want, or you drink little enough to keep yourself functional if you want to manage a job/investments/etc.

Just poured 2 pints of vodka in the toilet after a bender. Pretty rare for a 33 year old dude to get a urinary tract infection but I cant stop getting the urge to dribble out some piss every 15-20 minutes. Just ate a bunch of pills to see if thats what it is.

drink hella water and cranberry juice

>pass out on the bed
>alcohol sweat soaks mattress and sheets
>wake up in a wet bed that stinks
>have to clean my sheets all over again
>mattress is forever ruined and has new colours because of the sweat

I'm so tired of this. It's not as bad as pissing in the bed (which I did three times in the past), but still. Who knew waking up in a dry bed would become a new joy of life?

I woke up with my bottoms and bedsheet soaked. Pretty sure it was piss. Once when I was sleeping with my ex gf I apparently just got up and pissed on the floor in the middle of the night. I think I've only pissed myself three times though?

Should I go to the bar after work tonight? Thursdays are always fun and I already have a nice buzz going on.

could really do with having $100 drop out of the sky and into my lap rn

one time after a night of just pouring whisky into a gas station 32 oz and mixing it with coke, I got up in the middle of the night and pissed in my buddy's dirty clothes hamper (I was sleeping in the guestroom where it was).

He called me the next day pissed, it was really funny.

ive pissed the bed so many times, also ruined an xbox

>get off work
>no wallet
>go home, get wallet, get booze
>sit in my car in my parking lot and tie one on
>smell barbecue
>realize FOH tipped me out for busting ass solo during a rush and I have enough scratch to cover my handle AND some dank roadside barbecue
>walk right around the corner
>get my ribs
>walk home and cozy up with some Hulu
I don’t work for another two and a half days, it’s about to get motherfucking comfy up in here.
The only downside is that my back is killing me.

I did that before in my clothes hamper though
I've also pissed on my friend's dining room table
I've also gotten caught by a cop pissing in an alley, but he didn't care
I've also pissed on my laptop because I was pissed it was "broken"
I have a pissing problem :(

once at a friends house i woke up with my pants at my knees and i was sleeping in an open suitcase with piss everywhere. assuming i was going for the utility sink (baesment) that was 5 feet away from the couch and realized i couldn't make it and got lost on the way back to the couch. don't remember any of it of course. this wouldn't be so bad if it was like my buddy's 21st or something but i was like 28 and there was no party just me and him. i'm glad he either never noticed or never asked me why his suitcase was all wet.

I’ve never pissed my own bed before. I thought I may have pissed a friend’s couch (could’ve just been my gross sweat), but I went out and bought some pet enzyme solvent spray and wet down his couch with it and took care of things before anyone else was up and at ‘em.
I’ve only ever shit myself while throwing up when I was nearly succumbing to al/ck/ poisoning.
Never just woke up with doo doo britches.

I haven't pissed the bed since probably December, fingers crossed 2018 is a whole year without pissing myself.

Same thing happened to me when I was younger but with eggs. I got the appetite for it a few months afterwards though.

I've had the good fortune of waking up whenever I start pissing myself. I've only pissed myself maybe 4 or 5 times but it usually wakes me up and I can cut it off before too much damage is done and I can throw a towel or tshirt over top of the wet part. Never woken up the next morning in a piss soaked bed thank god.

t. beer drinker

Is Olde English 800 sweeter than other malt liquors? How does Colt 45 compare?

I don't get the pissing yourself in your sleep thing. I haven't done it since I was probably 5, but sometimes I do wake up with a pain in my belly and it takes me awhile to realize that I have a full bladder. I did have an ex who pissed the bed a couple of times; honestly sucked waking up in the middle of the night in sheets soaked in cold piss, and she's drunkenly pulled all the clean sheets to her side but is too drunk to get up so you can change the bedding. I did shit myself once while letting out a fart. Was naked in the kitchen, and it was extra embarrassing because it was in a gf's apartment and I hadn't been dating her for very long.

I've never pissed the bed either. I've walked into my room passed out immediately onto the bed black out before, but I got up in the night and pissed in a trashcan without any recollection of it. It was like a week before I realized my trashcan was full of piss because I had no memory of rising from bed and pissing into it at all.

Ahhh ow my dick ouch ow ow ow

what is the abv of OE where you live? it's higher on the west coast than elsewhere

how do you guys deal with the anxiety in the mornings?

I've been waking up basically in a panic attack and frantically pounding the nearest drink just to get my breathing under control

Why do people complain about people smelling like alcohol, when alcohol smells good?

you had a girl who pissed herself? wild.
I had a roommate who pissed himself all the time. Would also pass out in very inopportune times. Totaled 3 cars and would get drunk and fuck craiglist bitches a lot. He went to AA a couple months ago after he totaled his 3rd car.

stop drinking the dick hurting juice user

promised i wouldn't drink until Friday, this week has been fucking terrible, feel like heading down to the store for some fucking whisky.

drink pickle juice. anxiety is a symptom of withdrawal

not everyone thinks so.

What? You don’t have to be incompetent to be an alcoholic. Besides, it’s piss easy.
youtube.com/watch?v=SfOL60CsF9U

8%

I want to live in the middle of the woods making crazy moonshine

This is hillbilly nonesense. I make booze in my own home like using a coffee maker every three days I make 3 handles of booze like I'm brewing coffee.

This is called a 'wash'. That's what you use to make vodka.

This is the coffee maker you use to make booze.

Stop reading, retarded hillbilly shit and start doing it like the professionals if you're going to booze like a pro.

Tolerance is for sure a thing and it kicks in rapidly. Eg: Saw a band on a Thursday night and had an ausday party the next day. Got quite drunk on the Thursday and nearly had a bottle of Jim Beam on Fri and was barely drunk and didn't get much of a hang over at all. If I'd had that much after two weeks off I would have been smashed.

I do wonder how long it takes to get back to base for tolerance though? I miss the days of having half a bottle of vodka when I was 18 and that was enough (which meant I didn't get a hang over as well).
Discovering cheap wine was not a good thing for me.

Are you all just bored drunks, or do any of you actually want to learn how to make booze?

wheat from the fucking chaff is always the situation.

the problem i find with trying to make booze is i'm either too drunk to make it or off the sauce and trying to stay that way