So in California, you can use your EBT card at almost any Burger King, Jack in The Box, Taco Bell, or El Pollo Loco.
KFC, Pizza Hut and other restaurants are lobbying hard to participate in the program as well, and will likely be approved.
Is this the right thing to do? Feed our uneducated, unskilled, semi-illiterate population the worst junk foods possible? It's not like these EBT users have the sense to order yogurt or a fruit cup.
Is this just a case of the poverty pimps perpetuating the cycle?
It's like you should stop voting for shitbag politicians or something.
Jonathan Evans
Considering this program is only for homeless people who are 60+ years old, I don't think it matters very much that we're feeding them Subway or Pizza Hut. Is this really something to worry about?
Mason Ortiz
Stop voting for sociopathic politicians lookinv to ethnically replace you just to ssecure a larger voter base
Adrian Davis
Did you even read the link? It's for all California EBT users, mostly the poor & homeless. The 60+ senior users are a small fraction of the users.
Jayden Diaz
>EBT users are all homeless seniors
Lol, most people on EBT are young, black, and perfectly capable of working but just don't want to. Go look up videos on youtube of people buying cans and bottles of soda on EBT, dumping the soda out in the parking lot, then returning the bottles and cans for the nickels to buy cigarettes.
Justin Bailey
It would be perfect if they could just have heart attacks and die with (some) dignity, but we also like to spend our tax dollars on their healthcare when they become landwhales, which is extremely expensive.
Eli Murphy
I have ebt right now due to a broken foot. That is fucking disgusting. Why are shitskins so retarded?
>Is this just a case of the poverty pimps perpetuating the cycle?
Yes. Feed them all junk food, so when they become obese, diabetic, and full of disease, the politicians can turn around and blame white people for the epidemic.
That's how you keep them in line and voting for you.
Brandon Bailey
On the first of the month if you accidentally end up forgetting and going to Walmart you are completely fucked so you should just leave unless you don't mind being stuck behind a line of 10 with multiple overfilled carts.
James Evans
Why do food stamps cover anything but the basics any way? Meat, produce, and rice. You want anything else, fucking buy it yourself. Should just abolish SNAP and let the niggers, spics, and trailer trash starve. We'd all be better for it.
Benjamin Thompson
>hate boomers >realize when they die things are only going to get worse because they make up the white middle class population I can't believe these fucks destroyed the world so bad that even their finally dying is going to ruin it
Nathaniel Robinson
Well there's lots of obvious cynical things that could be said about this. The most positive thing I can think of would be that at least those chains are readily accessible to the people who rely on this on this kind of aid and those same chains at least tend to employ people in the local community.
If we really wanted to make a good faith effort to make this sort of idea work though perhaps the best we could strive for is to specifically license businesses owned by members in the community rather than franchisees living miles away in an upper middle class suburb and the cooperate office. This would atleast keep the money we're giving away circulating within the community one extra step and give some of these people a clearer career path to self sufficiency.
That all said it's fairly obvious no amount of monetary aid is ever going to make some of these folks feel the need to take care of themselves. So realistically we're still going to need to enforce self care by either:
1. Tying access to aid money to a persons physical health... though this is both to some extent subjective and kind of a catch 22
or
2. Only licensing "healthy" institutions/opening up government run cafeterias to use the aid money/vouchers at. This still doesn't track what people actually eat in them or illicitly trading their vouchers for other good elsewhere though and adds significantly more management overhead for the state.
I don't think entirely pulling out of the aid game is realistic either because completely outside of ethical concerns the cost of policing a population that's going to suddenly struggle to meet basic food needs would be massively expensive probably in excess of the current programs.
So pick your poison I guess?
Easton Campbell
They should take the money EBT offers and use it to setup eateries that offer free service to the needy, and only serve healthy food. It'd more cost effective in every way.
Isaiah Hughes
They don't care about cost effect or health, they give all the shitskins gibs so they will vote for them. .
Robert Cox
>Tying access to aid money to a persons physical health..
Holy shit, you know how illegal that would be?
Like tying somebody's health insurance to their health.
Easton Baker
I didn't mean for either of those options to sound appealing and I suppose I should have spelled out the implicit third option of continuing business as usual? But yes I understand that would be extremely coercive, undesirable, and not legal under current statute.
Jacob Cruz
Considering how California is the "progressive trend setter" for the rest of the country, get ready for wide spread "EBT for Junk Food" programs all across america.
Jaxon Edwards
>Is this the right thing to do? No but then again most of them don't deserve the money you'd spend to give them healthier food.
Tyler Anderson
Some people at least are trying to sound the warning that the economic costs are these programs "as is" is literally worse than nothing. Whether that means trying to improve them somehow or dropping them though hardly seems settled.
>Is this the right thing to do? Feed our uneducated, unskilled, semi-illiterate population the worst junk foods possible? Yes.
Andrew Martin
nope, not the right thing to do, it would only be acceptable if their healthy options were cheaper than the bad stuff
Christopher Brooks
nah man, that's the older brother from a different father
Jordan Fisher
Define education, what public and most private schools are pumping out is pure brainwashing propaganda, that can hardly be called an education.
Landon Robinson
I don't feel like such programs should exist at all. Since they will not go away, you should only be allowed to purchase cost-efficient and nutritious items with EBT so they have incentive to get off it. I'm talking vegetables, rice, beans, cheap meats, ect. If they want their addictive junk food or to eat lavishly, they can go get a job.
Daniel Cooper
I agree with you and wanting to eat lavishly is for fools.
Thomas Nguyen
>tfw you're footing the bill for kickbacks to fast food chains courtesy of your scumbag politicians
Landon Bennett
Eating healthy is not expensive . It's a drawn out meme. Healthy living and proper budgeting is an education issue.
Kevin Walker
For all the shittalking about flyovers that they do, California's food culture consists mostly of drive thrus and walk up windows.
Joshua Lee
You must realize that food box programs already were implemented in the 30s and 70s and were remarkably cost ineffective and borderline discriminatory. Plus as I'm guessing you're an underage b& /pol/fag whose parents buy you junkfood I'm curious why you'd advocate for a socialist government program
Nolan Hughes
>I'm curious why you'd advocate for a socialist government program
And I'm guessing your reading comprehension skills are lacking.
>I don't feel like such programs should exist at all. >I don't feel like such programs should exist at all. >I don't feel like such programs should exist at all.
Charles Bennett
It's already a monumental, horribly inefficient program rife with fraud, whether or not fast food companies get a sliver doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. They are businesses and the object of a business is to make money, not be some puritanical free market advocate.
Don't get mad at McDonald's for playing the game, get mad at the government for buying and allowing them to play the game in the first place.
Levi Cox
>you should only be allowed to purchase cost-efficient and nutritious items with EBT so they have incentive to get off it. I'm talking vegetables, rice, beans, cheap meats, ect.
1) How the hell are you going to enforce anything like that? You see EBT users already buying stuff, turn around, and sell it for pennies on the dollar so they can use cash to buy other shit. This is literally impossible to enforce.
2) You'll get called a "racist" for even suggesting a controlled diet program
Jose Murphy
No shit, evidenced by how much in and out is pushed. no other regional fast food chain anywhere is pushed like it
Charles Hughes
>2) You'll get called a "racist" for even suggesting a controlled diet program
See
>food box programs already were implemented in the 30s and 70s and were remarkably cost ineffective and borderline discriminatory
Honestly, I have no idea how the same food box being sent to every fucking recipient equally as "discriminatory"
Nicholas Parker
California would be a paradise if they just got rid of all the god damm freeways, replaced them with bicycle paths (e-bikes banned of course), banned tract housing and lawns, and laid down a bunch of passenger rail.
The less efficiently used residential areas of silicon valley should be bulldozed and replaced with the fruit orchards that used to stand there, and all those sprawling tech campuses should be put in high rise towers designed by ARC Studio and other renowned Asian design firms. Bulldoze all of the sporting complexes and replace them with orchestra pits. The concertmasters would be paid on the same scale as today's overpaid sports stars. Human habitats would be built up around the major transit nexuses such as San Jose Diridon Station. Motorized transport would be largely limited to emergency vehicles and food deliveries to neighborhood markets. A small number of autonomous rideshare vehicles would be permitted and access would be controlled by voucher, not money. You could increase your voucher supply by various means such as more effective separation of recyclables, reduced meat consumption, and choosing to live in a smaller space.
Also, to maintain social mobility, a randomly selected number of white children would be bussed into the higher performing Asian majority school districts in order to inspire them and show them that it's possible to succeed without begging for handouts. Remember white people: just because your friend went to college doesn't mean he's got "white guilt" or whatever.
>1) How the hell are you going to enforce anything like that? There's already things you can't buy with EBT. You just expand that to everything that's not produce, meat, rice, etc. >You see EBT users already buying stuff, turn around, and sell it for pennies on the dollar so they can use cash to buy other shit. This is literally impossible to enforce. Fraud is a separate issue from what EBT should cover, which was the point that the user you're replying to was making - that it should only cover basics.
William Hall
>You'll get called a "racist" for even suggesting a controlled diet program Bitch and moan all you want but poverty and race are inextricably tied in america. It's a political statement when white politicians call for an overhaul of welfare because of "cadillac queens". Not ford queens, not chevrolet queens, but cadillac queens. Then they'll talk about the "urban environment" having a higher proportion of people on food stamps or welfare. It's really not subtle code.
Noah Long
>"cadillac queens". Not ford queens, not chevrolet queens, but cadillac queens. You don't know car brands very well do you. This is why you misunderstand the reference. You're going to explain that you do because you've seen hip hop videos on mtv, but you'll be wrong.
Benjamin Rogers
Oh please, just look at IQ tests that show that whites are genetically inferior to asians, commit more crimes, and don't even care about higher education, no amount of bussing will change that. But I guess I'll be labelled a "racist" if I even bring that up
Mason Wright
>race and poverty linked not as much as illegitimacy rates. if blacks kept their own damn house in order 90% of their problems would go away
Charles Sullivan
Pretty sure rap videos didn't exist when reagan quoted cadillac queens but ok
Sorry Cletus, I'm guessing the factory wouldn't hire a high school dropout
Daniel Foster
It's interesting how and when threads dissolve into racial and political debating.
Henry Murphy
>muh 105iq chinese Do you really think this average counts the 90% of them that live out in rural areas on $2/day? The ones over here perform somewhat better because we cherry pick their best out of their country. It's not like hispanics where it's a free for all with immigrating here.
Asher Evans
I know you are larping but wageslaves and gov assisted NEETs are morons.
Nathaniel Roberts
It's not their fault, they're a product of their environment. If we stopped coddling them, telling them that they're entitled to a six figure salary pushing buttons on the steel-bashing machine on the factory floor because MUH FAMILY VALUES MUH JEEBUS MUH GUNS MUH BIBLE, and promising magical solutions like "build the wall" or "trade wars are easy to win", then some of them might be motivated to improve themselves. They just need better role models. A white version of Lee Kuan Yew, instead of these low class thug role models with their tacky gold and disdain for knowledge.
>It's interesting how people behave like they usually do. You must live a really interesting life there champ.
Benjamin Campbell
True. Let's just get rid of welfare entirely. Then it's not racist.
Gabriel Peterson
In California, it's a one party system. We literally have no choices when it comes to voting.
Dylan Stewart
Because it's inexorably linked to everything in the US now, and it should be. The US is basically fighting a second civil war but it's not violent because everyone's well off.
Liam Sanchez
>make California (mainly just Bay area, because everywhere else is bumfuckville) into some bizarre socialist vegetarian paradise for Asians This post is off the wall. Go to Tokyo for your fantasies
Adrian Lewis
Shitskins would rather destroy civilizations, it's in their nature.
Sebastian Roberts
It's not violent because one side is heavily armed and well disciplined and the other side is Democrats.
Connor Lee
Gb2 r/asianmasculinity you dumb hapa
Luis Brown
Modernity would look pretty bizarre to a hunter-gatherer in the Great Rift Valley. Likewise, the nightmarish cager dystopias that many people take for granted in this day and age will look barbaric in a few centuries.
With the companies and tax payers fleeing in droves, the state will eventually collapse. After a few decades, it will be a fat juicy pussy ripe to pluck.
Nathan Williams
At it's peak slavery was under 2% of Americans Nice b8 tho
Michael Gonzalez
Going to the government for food stamps is or should be tantamount to saying "I can't feed myself and will die without your help". That's the complete opposite of some busybody telling a family of 4 making $100k perfectly capable of taking care of themselves what they should eat
If I give you money to help you out you're damn right there should be stipulations involved. Only an idiot would surrender his money and assume the best. If I don't give you money then not only do I not care what you do, I have no right to know either.
How do you idiots conflate the two?
Liam Richardson
I am a La Creatura, asians are shitskins too.
Isaiah Young
>It'll be great if we just change all the reasons why California makes money at all and do a shit ton of expensive stuff which will rely on high tax and regulations to work and won't work anyway because criminals don't respect the law and you'll degrade anyway because of the low quality of the people living in California outside of the yuppie enlcaves you want to remove.
Anthony Martinez
>Implying Common Law isn't the greatest way of organising a free and prosperous society and that countries that move away from it don't go to shit.
Nolan Rogers
>Latonaquini-sha, my daughter, you are of gibs now >Will you buy staples of rice, potate and chicken with vegetables >Or 8 McChickens™ the best fast food sandwich™ a day >... >fuckin wypipo is why i iz 400 lbs and poor as shieeet
White Europeans are literally the only races in the world who have voluntarily abandoned slavery and pushed for equality.
Dominic Garcia
My local burger king has a huge WE ACCEPT EBT sign it makes me sad to look at
Sebastian Parker
Food stamps are an agricultural subsidy they are not meant to feed people. It does not matter how they are spent a lobster fisherman deserves the same chance to get the money as a wheat farmer.
Michael Sullivan
>cumskins that sounds sexy as fuck.
Thomas Cooper
This song is hilarious, no one is proper thugging on food stamps, government agents busting down your door and the politicians stealing your money via taxes is proper thugging.
Cooper Peterson
>pushed for equality Separate but equal, right cleetus?
>Is this the right thing to do? No, and it will only solidify the poor, and minority vote to the Dems who want these groups to be completely dependent on the state.
Brandon Garcia
food stamps are a democratic spoils system meant to buy and entrench votes don't fool yourself
Joseph Brooks
It works too, dumbass trailer trash/shiskins. "Dat nice man 'gon keep givin' uz gibz ifen wez vote fa him!" "Get yo black ass in they tyrone and vote!"
Jaxon Adams
Fucking liberals are cancer. California, along with those other liberal shitholes like NY and CT, deserve to go broke.
Nolan Kelly
I have lived in Chicago and have met more Commiefornians than any man should meet in his entire lifetime. I see liberals, women and shitskins as cancerous parasties, until they can prove otherwise that is my stance.
Grayson Edwards
Bullshit, everyone knows they buy the store brand cans and resell them for profit or they simply shoplift and return items. Returning cans for a credit doesn't pull in enough money fast enough to get cigarettes. Hell, most of them simply sell their food stamps for quick cash before doing any of this.
Levi Cooper
You all willfully walked back onto the plantation after we told you not to and now you are back in chains bitching at the people who tried to free you while praising your enslavers, again.
Black people are fucked
Gabriel Lopez
lol if we didn't want you to be equal, you wouldn't be. if we wanted you to stop existing, you would. all the memes in the world doesn't change that, lad
Evan Hughes
>only a black person could possibly know about the Jim Crow system >history books are a Chinese hoax I guess this guy was right No amount of busing can change your attitudes towards education
Nobodies more poorly educated than blacks, guess who is the strongest base for democrats?
Logan Allen
>I have lived in Chicago and have met more Commiefornians than any man should meet in his entire lifetime.
Chicago is a shit hole that is about to go bankrupt. Hell, the entire state of Illinois is basically bankrupt.
Chicago may be just about as liberal & "progressive" as California. And yes, they are one of the top welfare states in the nation.
Jaxon Gray
I know most normalfags are absolutely retarded and can't seem to wrap their heads around this concept but here it is. Unless you educate yourself you are most likely being fed some bullshit.
Ayden Howard
I left for many reasons, will never go back, will most likely never see my grandparents or uncles ever again that live there.
Connor Long
OP claims the poor are fat but in reality it's the rich being fat