History of architecture discussion thread

Does not need painting, does not need facade renovation every few years... You just need to keep it clean.

All those are modern brutalism. Perhaps you were talking about classic brutalism? Of course there are good examples of that one too.

As you can see, it depends on wether the owner of the building keeps it clean and combines it with nature.

>Why have they failed?
There are a lot of potential answers for that question, with varying degrees of /pol/ involved.

There's a great deal to be said of relativism and internationalism, but the simplest explanation is be that novelty for novelty's sake is not a desirable thing in and of itself. Prior to the mid 20th century, architectural styles built on their predecessors; architects were expected to reference the aesthetic traditions of their culture. Now, the architectural community sneers at anything but absolute modernity, resulting in shallow and soulless buildings that seem out of place wherever they are.

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>cities and specially countries should find a way to make modern designs following their traditions and culture.
couldn't agree more with this. One example I think does this well though is Taipei tower. It's pretty simple, and probably wasn't that much more difficult to construct than a typical modern skyscraper, but by just modifying it so slightly with the belt and layers, it hearkens to the traditional east asian architecture with the upward curved corners on rooftops or possibly of a modern super-pagoda. It's definitely modern, but if one were to see it, they'd have a good idea it came from east asia, and it's very recognizable too.

Do you know what the effect of this has been? Taipei tower has almost become a symbol of independent taiwan and it's critical to the image of the city. I wonder if we could do something like this in Europe or America? A cathedral-inspired tower?

I appreciate you posting examples of "good" brutalism, but these look little different from the brutalism I'm used to seeing. Raw concrete without any sort of facade or ornamentation just looks dirty and cheap, and the harsh angles are oppressive and lack any sense of meaning or purpose.