Why are people impressed by a 10 year empire?

They are not, what people like is the man.

Because it conquered the most advanced continent on Earth and ruled it for a decade
That's more impressive than ruling over third world shitholes for a century like the British Empire did

Better to live one day as a lion than a thousand years as a lamb.

dumbass

It's a bit Like the 20th Century Nazi Germany. A single nation was almost able to capture all of Europe and reshape global politics in an extremely short period of time. And even though it failed, it still had profound consequences for the world.

The French Revolutionary/Napoleonic period almost singlehandedly made the Nationalist movements of the 20th century possible. Without Napoleon, Germany might not even exist as a single nation.

The Napoleonic Legal Code is still the basis for French Law today.

The wars had all the tension and drama you'd expect from great fictional stories. Austerlitz and Waterloo are two of the greatest battles in history. Napoleon's doomed march to Russia is iconic.

There's also the great man history obsession, but it's completely legitimate in this case. Napoleon Bonaparte was a once in a fucking millennium type of person. He came from incredibly modest noble birth on a backwards Mediterranean island nation, to being the most powerful man in the world. He rose to the rank of Emperor through his sheer merit and cunning I the backdrop of the greatest political upheaval in France's history. As previously mentioned, he wrote a legal code that is still emulated today. He was inarguably one of the greatest military leaders in history and was personally beloved by the troops he led. He's also one of the miniscule number of people in history that you could maybe call a "benevolent dictator". He was the type of man who would grab a crown from the Pope's hands in order to crown himself, but would also take off one of his own medal's and give it to a lowly soldier personally. Britain, Russia, Prussia and Austria declared war on him, not France. Cam you think of any other event where countries would declare war on an individual? Also, the story of his defeat and both his exiles are tragic and read like something from Hollywood.

So there's a brief summary. We call it the 'Napoleonic period' for a reason

Cretin

Imbecile

Swine

Why is it such an accomplishment to take control of a divided continent full of incompetent monarchists that didn't know how to run their states with a country that had the overwhelmingly highest manpower which was never utilized to this extent before because of their own incompetent monarchs? And yet still only manage to achieve a rule of 10 years?

Philistine

>The French Revolutionary/Napoleonic period almost singlehandedly made the Nationalist movements of the 20th century possible. Without Napoleon, Germany might not even exist as a single nation.
what is the HRE
>The Napoleonic Legal Code is still the basis for French Law today.
Not like he single handedly invented every law. He just combined preestablished ideas that would have been inevitably implemented anyway.
>
The wars had all the tension and drama you'd expect from great fictional stories. Austerlitz and Waterloo are two of the greatest battles in history. Napoleon's doomed march to Russia is iconic.
Yes I'm sure it would make a good HBO show
>There's also the great man history obsession, but it's completely legitimate in this case. Napoleon Bonaparte was a once in a fucking millennium type of person. He came from incredibly modest noble birth on a backwards Mediterranean island nation, to being the most powerful man in the world. He rose to the rank of Emperor through his sheer merit and cunning I the backdrop of the greatest political upheaval in France's history. As previously mentioned, he wrote a legal code that is still emulated today. He was inarguably one of the greatest military leaders in history and was personally beloved by the troops he led. He's also one of the miniscule number of people in history that you could maybe call a "benevolent dictator". He was the type of man who would grab a crown from the Pope's hands in order to crown himself, but would also take off one of his own medal's and give it to a lowly soldier personally. Britain, Russia, Prussia and Austria declared war on him, not France. Cam you think of any other event where countries would declare war on an individual? Also, the story of his defeat and both his exiles are tragic and read like something from Hollywood.
And yet couldn't last for more than a decade...

Fag

>the overwhelmingly highest manpower

This advantage is nullified when you face coalitions
Check the numbers on pic related

Asshole

Did you do it?
Could you do it?

>"benevolent dictator"
Not really, just a regular one.

>russians
>austrians
lol

>what is the HRE

You tell me

Real life is not euiv.

The two most powerful nations on Earth after France in that era

Slut

Not hard when your only existing competition is backwards sandniggers and tiny city states

The foundations and policies he laid during that decade were so solid even his enemies adopted the majority of them.

Two centuries later, France' government is still based around what he put down.

And for militaryfags he went like 60-2 for battles.

Plus he was Veeky Forums as fuck.

>what is the HRE
Not even meming, for the majority of its history it was a collection of vaguely connected squabbling provincial mini-states.

Plebeian

So really the only reason he was successful was because he was the first leader since the Roman Republic that had to actually try because everyone else was a monarchist that got away with doing literally nothing because of their birth

Literally the ONLY reason he lost was because the Russians would rather burn down their own Capital than Admit defeat

>what is the HRE

Well, and the try he made was a good one. Not to mention the fact that he got to a position of even being able to try was through sheer competence.

I think an actual unified German state would have influenced German nationalism far more than the French having a lucky 10 year run.

Or because he wanted to go capture an empty frozen wasteland that would have been pointless to conquer because of his narcissism and then loses his entire army to the cold

How is Napoleon viewed by the average person in France today?

>whaah scorched earth is unfair

Well memed
He didnt want to conquer Russia, he wanted to beat it back into submission (like he did in 1807) so they would stop trading with Britain

Normies (regardless of the country) dont know much about history outside of what is often display in media (and since the US dominate Western media, 90% of what is displayed is their precious WW2)

The average French person see it like one of our numerous monarchs
Some think he was a tyrant because they heard it somewhere
One day I was discussing history with my mom, and she unironically thought that Napoleon was a tyrant but Louis XIV (France's most unilaterally authoritarian ruler ever) wasnt

Same reason they're impressed by Alexander the Great and Hitler, they conquered that is the important things. It is also romantic to think what could of been. It is all the build up without the decadence, it is like foreplay, orgasm and no cuddling and relationship problems afterwards.

Cause 'muh glory'

Moron

>Louis XIV (France's most unilaterally authoritarian ruler ever)
Not really, since he must respect the limits of the divine right monarchy and face the growing dissent of Parliaments.

Dictators would better be Pétain or De Gaulle.

(Forgotten :) both based on the political model of "cesarism", set precisely by... Bonaparte.

clever guy

The HRE was not a German nation state. In fact, it was opposed by German nationalists since it was in the way of a German nation for the very reason that it actually WAS an Empire and not a nation state.

>Same reason they're impressed by Alexander the Great and Hitler
Are people impressed by Hitler?

To my knowledge, Hitler is being ridiculed and most of his successes are attributed to other people for whom Hitler is said to have been mostly an obstacle rather than a beneficial factor.

Very much unlike Alexander or Napoleon who are still very much glorified.

Not like Germany doesn't use the same coat of arms as the HRE or anything.

Smart

Good point

and I am also replying

Tfw no gf

It looks cool though.

>what is the German kingdom which de facto ruled the HRE

the HRE was far from unified though

Ok bro we get it, you played EU4

no, EU4 is shit. I read some books though

pick whichever you want;
>lowly noble becomes most powerful man in the western world
>20 years of nearly continuous warfare from all of europe against a single nation, which wins several coalitions in a row
>the sheer amount of exceptional humans and soldiers that existed in this period, in both sides
>the inventions and ideologies it paved the way for
>the single most beautiful historical tragedy

Make America great again

nigger

A broken clock is right twice a day

Because having a 10 year Empire in the most powerful continent, because you buttfucked the whole continent>having a big Empire by banging some naked men with spears

This

Profligate

perfidious albion

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>Napoleon
>not a Jewish puppet

Shut up Anglo

Then why did Jews single-handedly fund coalitions against him?

>welligton was funded by Rotschild

>What is the HRE
Something Napoleon put to pasture.

Like the Jews have never turned on their puppets before.

>From 1809 Rothschild began to deal in gold bullion, and developed this as a cornerstone of his business. From 1811 on, in negotiation with Commissary-General John Charles Herries, he undertook to transfer money to pay Wellington's troops, on campaign in Portugal and Spain against Napoleon, and later to make subsidy payments to British allies when these organized new troops after Napoleon's disastrous Russian campaign.

Huh

pretty cool guy

dink

>WHEN NAPOLEON ISSUED HIS ORDER to revive the ancient Jewish Sanhedrin in 1807, the news came as a “joyous surprise” to European Jewry.
>Perishing with the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 AD — coupled with a failed attempt to reinstate the Jewish court by the pagan Emperor Julian the Apostate in the 4th century — the renewed Sanhedrin infused with new life via Napoleon’s edict, gave to Jewry an organized body that cemented the dispersed Jewish community with the glue of a “national” identity.
>For Bonaparte, however, the Sanhedrin had quite another purpose. He hoped that the Jews, scattered all over the world, would contribute to his world-empire. Well aware of the Rothschild’s growing financial prowess and Jewry’s efficient commercial intercourse, Napoleon’s plan was to ingratiate himself with this economic power.
>But what the Emperor never anticipated, that by giving European Jewry a legal warrant to organize into a self-conscious entity complete with a perception of itself as a “national” body, Napoleon set the stage for his own demise.
realjewnews.com/?p=525

He gave rights to all religious minorities, he even said positive thing about Islam.

typical anglo

Napoleon 's soldiers brought the ideas of human rights and freedom to the people of Europe.
This not only undermined the Empire, but it planted the seed that bring forth republics, unions, socialism and in a century, the downfall of absolutism.
No more divine right.
No more holy Roman Empire.

(You)

perfid fuckhead

he was too benevolent for his own good 2bh

I'M HELPING

Negroid

monarchist

HAHAHAHA I'M GONNA REPLY TO THE DUMB COMMENT TOO

scorched earth is not unfair but neither is it a military tactic

it's literally just a bruteforce method in the same way that throwing troops at a target without any coherent battle plan is. you're only winning because of overwhelming numbers, not because you're actually better

he accomplished more within a decade than the rest of the world with hundreds of years
and this is why the english hate him so much, he surrounded himself with the best without asking for them to be rich noblefags and proved the world that you could get further without people of noble birth which was what the inbred royal houses commanding europe wanted to hide from the common men.

in the end he showed that merit works better than birth and was about to win twice a campaign against pretty much the whole world

spain always was like that... that's why portugal wrecked the shit out of them every single time they went to war. kingdom after kingdom they were all miserably crushed under the portuguese spears.

also, the moors had granada and cordoba for a lot of time after having no more possessions in the iberian peninsula because of this - and it's still happening today with seceding movements all over the country led by catalunia as usual

clown

lelno
i could agree in terms of manpower but russia always had a meagre economy and they even had to break the honor agreement they had with napoleon and trade with the english in order to keep themselves above ground

and the austrian just like the prussians were both pretty awful at war like they always were - in their small heads war is all about violence and that's why they always lose no matter how many victories they achieve
the phrase "you, hannibal, know how to gain a victory; you do not know how to use it." fits like a glove the warmongering subhuman tribes of germania

bumpkin

all true revolutions are doomed to failed since the tentacles from the status quo spread all over the globe - but it's what they achieve that matters: people die and the extreme ideals they rallied behind get defeated BUT the powers that be always have to make huge concessions to the masses in order to keep order, because the idea box works like a pandora box and once it gets opened i can no longer be closed completely.

and yes he was a dictator like every single monarch rulling every single country 200 years ago but unlike most of them he was a benevolent dictator who ended up being more benign than any of those monarchs were to their nations.

so yeah, he was probably one of the two dictators absolved by history - the other one being fidel castro.

>nazi "empire"
you can't just blitzkrieg your way to an empire, m8
it's like building a castle in the middle of a beach, easy to get, impossible to consolidate and a matter of time until you go back crawling to your initial form

>a benevolent dictator
He closed all the theatres of Paris except 8 ! What monster would do such a thing ?