The Roman Empire was shit

They are overrated, but an interesting and influential civilization nonetheless.

You cover yourselves in glory showing such wisdom. Please, say more things, that we want to learn.

>thinks the Roman Empire was shit
>believing everything he is told
Pick one

Romans didn't invent half of that shit.

>Why invent the wheel twice when you can just learn it from another society.
You can invent things that are not know. That's what inventing is you fucking retarded.

The Roman Empire was born stagnant. They only were good at being huge and at crushing skulls. And then they stopped being good also at the later.

>Newspapers

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>Which technological advancements happened in all those years?
This can't be a real question.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_technology

>Concrete
Yes.
>Aqueducts
No. Roman/Byzantine aqueducts are the most famous example but not the first.
>Highways
No.
>Caesarean section
Never heard of this before, explain.
>Sewage system
Also not original to Romans.
>Newspapers
Not true.
>12 month calendar
Also not true. Iranians and Babylonians before them had a calendar that had 12 months in them based off the constellations and positioning of the stars.

>build a bridge just to let your enemies know nature cannot deter you

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar's_Rhine_bridges

>never heard of the Caesarean section

Do you live in the Amazon rainforest or some shit?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acta_Diurna

Never heard of it having anything to do with ROMANS before, is what I meant.

Never disputed Romans having newspapers, I disputed the Romans inventing it.

The article is full of technology, but not of Roman inventions.
>Nevertheless, in Roman Egypt all the essential components of the much later steam engine were first assembled by the Greek Mathematician and Engineer Hero.
That's almost always the story.
>The Romans, though certainly inheriting some of the art of road construction from the Etruscans, borrowed the knowledge of construction of viae munitae from the Carthaginians.

Roman inventions as told by this Wiki article:
>The Romans found out that insulated glazing (or "double glazing") improved greatly on keeping buildings warm, and this technique was used in the construction of public baths.
>Another truly original process which was born in the empire was the practice of glassblowing, which started in Syria and spread in about one generation in the empire.
>Roman bridges were among the first large and lasting bridges built.
>Roman builders were the first to realize the stabilizing effect of arches and buttresses, which they integrated into their dam designs.

The gladius was Spanish, the helmet Gallic, the scutum Etruscan, and so on.

No slave state has ever had fast technological development, Rome wasn't shit, all pre-modern empires were shit.

CAESARian

Can you name an earlier form of newspaper?

>government publication

Questionable.

It kind of counts, but official proclamations are something as old as writing, and this is just a bigger form of that.

Kind of.

Didn't the Hellenic and Hellenistic slave states produce relatively high amounts of technology?

Roman Empire history is honestly just boring.
90% of it consists of circlejerking over emperors and their land grabs. Literally every Roman thread on this board.
Where is the CULTURE

>civil engineering
>roman invention
laughingetruscans.sarcophagus

word, and i guess overcompensating for being a manlet didn't exist before the NAPOLEON complex.

yet another sign showing the similarity between murrica and rome

you ask where roman culture is when you're surrounded by its legacy if you live in europe or the western world

or even laid eyes on a lawyer or legal document

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what is this /pol/?

The romans took a lot of great ideas form other cultures, perfected them, and spread it.

Its one thing to invent the road its another thing to be able to walk from Spain to Greece on an intricate road system.

Its like saying oh the United States didn't invent cars so anything they did with cars doesn't count.

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Roman culture is our culture--in the West. For better or worse. We were conquered, and we do as our conquerors did.

>emperors
>land grabs
like 90% of the conquering was done during the republic.
I think each emperor's style of administration is most interesting and the occasional crazy who finds his way into the purple is good comic relief.

Rome turned degenerate after the punic wars.

>Roman culture is our culture--in the West.

Speak fir yerself.

That made them the quintessential Westerners.
These other groups had quality items, but it took Roman utilitarianism to combine and refine these elements into a superior amalgam.

Roman law, and the protection it gave to the citizens, are direct ancestors of modern law.

Roads, industry, organization methods, political structures, all have contributed to our modern world, as well as sustaining a civilization that lasted over a millennia.

Stupid moron.
You know nothing of history.

Go back to jerking your twig to trap porn.

we both know the republic isn't discussed nearly as often as the empire. you'll get the occasional punic wars thread, but that's about it.

You can turn from the Roman pontiff all you like, but you're still in the grip of Caesar, Constantine, Charlemagne, and the Roman citizenry. What you know an believe descended from them.

Aye aye cap'n.

I think you mean carlos el grande

>not Chuckie the Man

China was awesome, then became stagnant also.
I guess it's not so much about being slavist (the Greeks were) but about not having competence. Competence breeds excellence. When Europe got divided in a million political entities they started competing each others like crazy and a lot of good thing happened.

The problem here is in the understanding of what the Roman empire was.

Rome is a city that through initial luck and opportunism gained an empire. They ruled the entire Mediterranean and then some, an area containing many dozens of influential peoples.

The various peoples of Italy, Phoenicians, Greeks, Hebrews, Egyptians, and Celts, not to mention indirect Persian and even Babylonian influences, were all Roman subjects. The Romans gained the knowledge and power of all these peoples and put it at their disposal.

Saying that Roman science was inferior to Greek science is retarded because they aren't really relatable ideas. Greeks were a linguistic group. Rome was a political entity. Greek art and knowledge became Roman the moment they gained hegemony there.

>Charlemagne

He continued some of the spirit of the Roman Empire, and served alliterative purpose. Leave me alone! :-D

>He continued some of the spirit of the Roman Empire
The Roman Empire was already alive during his lifetime though.

Western/Eastern. Must we quarrel? The Byzantines prove themselves with their own merits.