Jewish Bolshevism

What do you know about Jewish Bolshevism? My understanding of the political atmosphere of Russia in the interwar period is extremely limited, nevertheless my understanding is that Jews were pissed about the pogroms and so they wanted to take any chance they could get to dismantle the Tzars and the Russian government. Is there any truth to this?

Also any discussion of why Hitler hated the jews is welcomed. I am extremely skeptical that Hitler only had an irrational hatred for them.

What doe Veeky Forums think?

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biblehub.com/john/1-1.htm
biblehub.com/genesis/1-1.htm
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin_and_antisemitism#The_Doctors.27_Plot
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>nevertheless my understanding is that Jews were pissed about the pogroms and so they wanted to take any chance they could get to dismantle the Tzars and the Russian government.
It's actually because of their rejection of the Logos. Judaism is a fundamentally irrational way of life.

What is because of their rejection of the Logos?

The entire Jewish worldview, according to which all governments need to be overthrown because they've mistreated the Jews.
youtube.com/watch?v=MDgGqhi_M2Q

And religious Jews wouldn't be Jewish if they accepted Christ. Ergo, Judaism is irrational, by definition, in both its theistic and statist forms. Anarchist Judaism obviously supports my thesis even more.

Bolsheviks were not jewish.
That's not to say there were no jews involved with bolshevism.

The Right, especially jew-haters, have seen the hand of jews in everything that they hate/fear.

In Tsarist Russia, the majority of jews lived in "the pale of settlement". They weren't allowed to leave the Pale unless given special permission.

Most of the Russian underground weren't jewish at all.

Who knows why Hitler hated jews?
We do know that he blamed them for not only Germany 's recent woes, but for the entire world.

Antisemitism was endemic in Germany.

The publication pictured in OP is a Nazi tract.

>Bolsheviks were not jewish.
This is a very new one.

Christianity and Islam are irrational.
Antisemitism is irrational.
Nazism is irrational.

What does any of that have to do with Judaism?
I'm defining rationality in terms of acceptance of the concept of the Logos. Christianity is the only philosophy you listed in which this concept plays an integral role.

Prove it.

I am a Bolshevik.
Not jewish at all.

Trotsky was from a Jewish family which was allowed to move out of the Pale, in order to be colonist/farmers.

What's your problem with such a small religious group?

Need a scapegoat for your unhappiness with the world?

You claimed Judaism to be irrational.
I pointed out other religious claptrap as irrational.
This thread is full of retarded anti-semites and nazifags.

So what's YOUR problem with jews?
Theological?

The claim isn't "Every Bolshevik is a Jew," it's "Bolshevism was pioneered by Jews."
You're a fucking cancer, it has nothing to do with your religion. It's your ideology.

>So what's YOUR problem with jews?
>Theological?
Pretty much. They reject Christ.
I'm not claiming that Christianity meets your standards of rationality, I'm claiming that acceptance of the concept of the Logos is central to rationality. A non-Christian can willingly embrace the concept, as Plato did. But Jews do not accept the concept.
Are you now going to tell me that the Jewish faith is a rational faith? That the Jewish religion has no irrational components?

Wait are you saying that the logos the ancient Greek philosophers used is the same logos that Christians use? Vastly different concepts.

>Vastly different concepts.
It's the same word in Greek.

But you still haven't addressed my main point, which is that Judaism's rejection of the Christian Logos leads to either an irrationa desire for social reform and violence against anyone who opposes these reforms.

Ancient Greeks: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logos

Christians: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logos_(Christianity)

Both use the same Greek word but are very much different concepts. Plato did not "willingly embrace" this latter concept.

I am not who you were just talking to. I am OP.

I think you're trying to divide things up too much here. Would you like to talk about the Great Tao instead? The Chinese character for the Tao was used in place of the Greek Logos in the first translation of the Gospel of John into Chinese. Chinese philosophy treats the Tao in a way not unlike Greek philosophy treats the Logos.

I don't know anything about China.

My understanding of the word comes from a philosophy background. I understand it to mean something like, "rationality;" the word "logic" comes from logos. Are you saying that Jewish people reject rationality and logic? It doesn't seem like you're saying this. Can you clear up what you're saying?

>who is Philo of Alexandria?

>Are you saying that Jewish people reject rationality and logic?
I'm saying the reject Christ.
A Jew who matters more to Christians than Jews.

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And I'm saying that the attitude displayed by Jewish revolutionaries toward their governments tend to be irrational. I condemn Bolshevism and Zionism on these grounds, among many others.

Ok, and you think their irrationality stems from their rejection of Christ, somehow? What Jewish revolutionaries in particular do you see as having or having had an irrational attitude toward their government?

That every J.A.P. I fucked hate a hatred of the kabuts(sp?) they had to go and spend time on and thought communism was retarded. Really quit denying a large minority the access to profit in society based off status as minority nd they will adopt your ways. glad that kike Austrian blew his brains out. Serves him well for being a self loathing half German self hating monkey with delusions of grandure.

Vladamir Putin thinks that 80% of the Bolshevks were Jews. Solzhenitsyn it put much lower. Either way, most of the leaders were Jews or married to them. Of course people who hate gentile culture and have no state of their own would be attracted to an ideology that rejects and wants to destroy both. One of the first things they did was outlaw anti-Semitism and make it punishable by death. 75% of the early Commissars were Jews. Most of the people who committed the Holodomor and members of the Cheka were Jews. Jews dominated most of the Eastern bloc governments, especially Poland and Hungary.

By the 50's The Left had really moved on from Soviet Communism. Largely because Stalin had all the Jews purged, who have always been the driving force behind its most destructive elements.

gee people strong arm a country into submission and marry pretty whores from the lowest class? sounds like every conquest in human history.

>What Jewish revolutionaries in particular do you see as having or having had an irrational attitude toward their government?
Lemme stop you right there.
Vladimir Lenin, every Jewish Marxist-Leninist who ever lived, the Zionists in the video I posted earlier who are demanding that Barack Obama be penalized for not caring more about Israel than about the country of which he is President.

all of my wat

So now we're just unironically using Mein Kampf as an unquestioned historical source?

What are you talking about?

>I am a Bolshevik.

Lots of people on both sides noticed it at the time, and it makes sense. The puppet masters and other upper echelons in any form of Marxism are always intellectuals and members of an out-group and for pretty much the entire history of Jews in western civilization those two qualities have been supremely reliable in describing the Jewish people.

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>I am a Bolshevik.
Opinion discarded, fuck off sjw
>>>/leftypol/

>People unironically identify as Bolsheviks in 2016
Bernie Sanders doesn't know what he'd doing, or he's worse than I thought.

You don't even know what a Bolshevik is, do you?
I am not an sjw, you rightist retard.
Your opinion is discarded due to utter ignorance.

>I am not an sjw, you rightist retard.
You're a threat to the beautiful and a traitor to the West. You deserve whatever comes to you.

I have studied aesthetics and am thoroughly Westernized.
Socialism is a Western philosophy.
The great socialist thinkers are all Westerners.

The heritage of Western Civilization contains right and left and art of all types.

triggered as fuck

But Bolshevism is a Russian ideology.
>Russia
>The West
Get the fuck out of here.
Mao invented the word "Rightist." It's not a Western insult.

it's nice to twist the historical facts to fit your worldview.

I wish I lived in your fantasy land.

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Oh look another fake Christian with an authoritative perspective on the Bible.

The explain why the first line in the book of Genesis says in the begging there was Logos (the word)?

Explain why Stalin felt it was necessary to purge Jewish influence in the Party, then

That's the Gospel of John you're thinking of

You dun goofed, son.

Because many of them were Troskyists, he didn't purge all of the jews.

>The explain why the first line in the book of Genesis says in the begging there was Logos (the word)?

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

biblehub.com/john/1-1.htm

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
biblehub.com/genesis/1-1.htm
Mon frer...

>Trotskyists
A Jew.
Lenin was also a Jew.
I mean, you can deny the significance of the common Hebraic nature, but you're wrong to do so.

Nazis were not right wing. Neither was Tzarist Rusia.

Lenin was raised a an Orthodox christian and his only jewish heritage was that his grandfather was jew that had converted. Since the Jewish bloodline did not pass matrilianaly to him he was not a Jew.

And no most Bolsheviks or members of the central party committee that were purged were not jews. Some Jews like Kamenev were high profile , but most others were low profile ethnic Russians.

Jews tended to be a polarized people occupying both the lowest rungs of society whilst also being disproportionately represented in its highest rungs whether it be in communist or liberal movements and in business

To be fair, Stalin had a high distrust of Jews. He sort of purged his Jewish doctor because his thought he was ploting against him.

Of course Stalin thought that about everyone.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin_and_antisemitism#The_Doctors.27_Plot

Also, Stalin's daughter apparently had a thing for Jews which bothered Stalin a great deal. He sent one of her lovers to a camp and the other he finally reluctantly agreed to let her marry him, but he refused to attend the wedding.