How on earth is this religion viewed in a negative connotation? Is it merely due to the "Lucifer = Satan" meme? There is literally nothing to paint Lucifer as a malevolent being.
>Lucifer in this context is seen as one of many morning stars, a symbol of enlightenment, independence and human progression
How could this possibly be opposed?
LUCIFERIANISM
Robert Murphy
Nolan Smith
There is no Lucifer in the Bible.
Landon Hughes
>How could this possibly be opposed?
Jonathan Morris
Most successful religions formed a symbiotic relationship with governments of some sort, either offering complacency for the masses, or legitimization for rule.
If a religion does neither, it's less likely to thrive.
Jaxon Taylor
>How could this possibly be opposed?
Jace Brooks
>defending a meme religion spawned in the modern era by angsty contrarian fedora tippers who just wanted to piss people off
Hunter Thomas
>enlightenment, independence and human progression
I oppose all of these things.
Justin Diaz
Can someone explain to me the major things this religion believes in?
Owen Campbell
Let's see:
>there is no such being as "Lucifer" in the Bible
>the word itself was originally lowercase "lucifer" which is how Romans called the morning star in the Vulgate, it refers to the falling king of Babylon
>the retards translating the KJV mistranslated it a proper name and some other retards equated it with Satan
>Milton ran with the meme and popularized it in Paradise Lost
There you have it, Luciferianism is literally the result of some cretins creating an entire religion / mystical philosophy out of a mistranslated word. You can't make this shit up.
Nolan Hall
>progression
what kind of progress?
Robert Diaz
Spiritual libertarianism.
>I take what I deserve, and I give you what you deserve
Easton Foster
What
Gabriel Collins
If Zoroaster was born in Rome you faggots would be worshiping Angra Mainyu.
Gabriel Cruz
I like it
Jordan Lopez
>enlightenment, independence and human progression
[citation needed]
Ian Ramirez
Luciferians are atheists in nature. They believe in a "god of the earth" kind of deity, whose "light-bringing" is related to Gnostic enlightenment. So of course the Abrahamic religions would have a problem with this.
Noah Nguyen
These.
Wow that's edgy af, m8.
Mind if I steal it from you?
Lincoln Ward
>Luciferians are atheists in nature.
>They believe in a "god of the earth"
atheists
lol whut
Angel Carter
This, it's literally just supposed to be a big "Fuck you" to Nebuchadnezzar II.
Daniel Robinson
As in a powerful human, like the Overman. Not really a god per se.
Jeremiah Jones
Shouldnt it be called Helelism anyway?
Christian Rogers
kingjamesbibleonline.org
who are these about then? Lucifer is supposed to be a different entity altogether? Even though this is the case, from what I've seen of Lucifer being cast down from the heavens for questioning God's command he's still a sympathetic character regardless if he's satan or not
Blake Ramirez
Lucifer is only referred to by name in the first verse cited, and modern scholarship thinks it refers to Nebuchadnezzar.
Carter Cooper
So this is the only legit mention of Lucifer?
Isaiah Chapter 14
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
Nicholas Adams
Luciferianism is synonym of materialism aka degeneracy.
Zachary Perry
Babylon nigga, Babylon.
Jackson Bennett
>tfw you realize the Serpent = Lucifer = Jesus Christ
Cooper Evans
Mistranslation, explained here As for Isaiah 14:
>On the day the Lord gives you relief from your suffering and turmoil and from the harsh labor forced on you, you will take up this taunt against the king of Babylon
>against the king of Babylon
It's literally there in the Bible. Read the entire chapter instead of just cherrypicking verses.
Wyatt Harris
Nebuchadnezzar II is also Christ-Lucifer the Serpent, merely a different incarnation.
Robert Phillips
Get lost shitposter.
Justin Foster
I am the light that illuminates all things. I am all: from me all came forth, and to me all is attained. Split a piece of wood; I am there. Lift up the stone, and you will find me there.
Eli Gray
Satan is literally God's prosecution, with mankind as the defendant, in the original Jewish mythology.
Why would the prosecution suddenly become a beacon of freedom and independence? Something isn't adding up here...
Adrian Parker
>a symbol of enlightenment, independence and human progression
the problem is not that he wants to be the symbol of those things, but what you define as enlightenment, independence and human progression
there is a big difference between what christians call "enlightenment, independence and progression" and what hedonists call "enlightenment, independence and progression"
as always, the word isn't the important thing but what you will do if you believe in those things
Eli Morris
...
Liam Russell
tl;dr
lucifer = prometheus
established christianity relegated the promethian myth to that of "the bad guy" due to the merger of Christianity and Constantine. they propagandized it to discourage dissent to tyranny.
Nicholas Watson
Lucifer gave man knowledge and God would rather have had us as innocent fleshy automatons. God didn't like that his creations had been tricked (lol omnipotence?) and decided to fuck over Lucifer and the descendants of Adam. Up until the point where I guess he just threw his hands up and drowned the world because his free thinking creations weren't listening to him anymore.
Basically God is an autist and throws tantrums when he doesn't get his way
Jaxson Robinson
Yes. He was a pretty based guy. If it wasn't him then all cool human wouldn't even exist instead it would be that faggot Adam and his bitch Eve. My vote for the Luci.
Aiden Robinson
Yeah, and free-masonry is merely a club of bored old people talking about good old time and drinking a bit of scotch
Jaxon Perry
>KJV
Lucas Barnes
Bloody well shouldn't be. Otherwise why would we go to meetings?