Ask a guy whose girlfriend just sold my $1,800 leaf from a 14th century manuscript at our garage sale for $10 anything

Ask a guy whose girlfriend just sold my $1,800 leaf from a 14th century manuscript at our garage sale for $10 anything

Yes, I am dead inside, next question. No, I will never trust a woman with sorting out which antiques are okay to sell and which aren't again, next question.

pic related is not the leaf in question

This is entirely your fault for not taking proper care of valuable artifacts. You are a moron and should be ashamed

Why didn't you keep it in a safe?

It was literally framed, with an engraving underneath the leaf stating "ILLUMINATION FROM BOOK OF HOURS, 14th CENTURY GERMANY OR ITALY"

Did you dump her?

Entirely your fault for being heterosexual trash.

We are getting ready to move (hence the garage sale), it was in a box with an assortment of other antique books and stuff.

I told her to go through the box labeled OLD BOOKS FOR GARAGE SALE and put them out there for like $10-$20 a piece (they're mostly old books that aren't worth anything but are cool nonetheless)

I told her NOT to put out any of the books in the box titled ANTIQUE BOOKS, which consist mostly of stuff worth anywhere from $200-$2,000 a piece.

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A

FUCKING

LEAF

If you failed to make its value clear or keep it separate from other stuff to be sold you are a moron

I have not spoken to her since this afternoon when it happened. I'm so fucking furious I'm not sure what I'll do. For a while I tried frantically searching for a way to find the guy she sold it to and buy it back from him, but I've had no luck.

It was one of my prized fucking possessions. I have antique stuff worth way more than it, but it was among my favorite because I fucking love manuscripts and I'm not rich enough to ever afford a complete one.

Are you really white knighting my stupid fucking girlfriend?

I told her clearly to take books from the "old books FOR GARAGE SALE" box, which was by the front door with some other boxes of stuff to be sold at the garage sale.

I told her NOT to take from the "antique books" box, which was in my private study, nowhere near anything that was to be sold. I don't even know why she was in there.

It would be more understandable if she just mixed up the boxes, but she sold stuff from BOTH the boxes, meaning that she just didn't listen to a fucking word I said.

I guess I should count myself lucky that the only things that got sold from the antique box was an old book on physics from the late 19th century and the manuscript leaf. I've got a 19th century book on maritime navigation in it that she had put out for $10 despite it being worth about $2500. That's how I knew she fucked up when I came home and saw that shit on the garage sale table.

Does she understand what she did on her own or is she going on about "some stupid piece of paper"?

And to top it all off, after I fucking yelled at her about it, she didn't even apologize. Rather she just tried doing what every woman does when confronted with their mistakes: she tried turning it around and blaming me for it somehow, because "I wasn't there to help" despite the fact that I was fucking at work.

She kind of understands. She's tried coming in and apologizing since the initial fight after it happened, but right afterwards, she just tried defending herself by saying that it was my fault for not being there and that, yes, it's "JUST A PIECE OF PAPER"

>I've got a 19th century book on maritime navigation in it that she had put out for $10 despite it being worth about $2500
What a dumb bitch....Also I would like to read that.

Murder her. This is the only reasonable course of action.

You could sue her actually.

>yes, it's "JUST A PIECE OF PAPER"

Aaaaaand that's when you break up.

You should take her to court and show her how important pieces of paper can be.

I dont give a shit about your dumb girlfriend, i'm just vaguely disgusted that you allowed such an awesome and valuable artifact to be sold for 10 bucks to some random. You sicken me

Thought about it. I've got an antique cavalry sabre that I could use, I'm thinking about killing her with it and shouting "ITS JUST A PIECE OF METAL" while doing it
While I am furious at her, we've been together for 3 years and I'm reluctant to fuck her over that bad just yet. If she makes no attempt at fixing the situation, I'll probably dump her and take her to court to pay for the shit.

I'm sure you've heard the phrase "if you want something done right, do it yourself." Quit blaming your girlfriend for your inability to take responsibility for your items.

>involved with someone that can't into the value historical artifacts or empathy
She's a waste of your time and semen. Jared her.

pic related

>I'm thinking about killing her with it and shouting "ITS JUST A PIECE OF METAL" while doing it
>I'll probably dump her and take her to court to pay for the shit.

Would that be before or after she takes you to court for threatening to kill her?

I hope you gave her a good beating at least.

kek. She came in about half an hour ago crying a little bit and asking if I was still mad. I'm at my desk, I didn't respond and I just waited for her to leave. She sobbed a little bit and asked "are all your books and old shit really more important than me, user? The person you love?"

I wanted to chuck something at her and tell her yes but I refrained.

Break up with her, she is clearly a retard.

Never trust women, they don't understand basic concepts that men do.
They don't see value in items, they see money and price. If she could have sold it for more she would have.

>defending the retarded because no one else will
You two deserve medals

You should ruin her life as much as possible, within legal means of course.

Again, white knighting someone you don't even know. I made it completely idiot proof to confuse the two boxes. One was in a room with the rest of the stuff to be sold, clearly titled so. The other was in my private study, which I told her to stay out of.

I couldn't be there to set up the garage sale because I was in a meeting with my employer.

>coming in and apologizing

Bitch owes you $1,800 not an apology. You should get it appraised in absentia and take the low ball estimate if you still care about her. Just know it's normal for ANY woman to try and shift responsibility, it's in their wiring. It doesn't necessarily mean she's a ditzy cunt that doesn't give a shit but she very well could be. Any woman will try and weasel her way out of it somehow just be clear with her and explain the situation and specifically that the "piece of paper", while a piece of paper it may very well be, was worth at the very least a grand and was exceedingly rare too.

Don't lose your cool and explore your options.

If you care about her seek a way to resolve the issue peacefully, ask she pay you back half of what you think it's worth after you explain to her exactly what it is she did and why it is undoubtedly her fault. If you're done with her and have documentation of the pieces existence and your past ownership of it seek appraisal and a legal resolution.

Whatever you do however do not let this go or she'll make you her bitch.

>"are all your books and old shit really more important than me, user? The person you love?"
I recognize this maneuver, it's a dangerous and effective way to shift the guilt onto you. Good thing you didn't fall for it.

I literally dont care how retarded the girl is, OP is a moron for allowing her anywhere near that leaf

Jesus Christ just ask her for the money back and if she doesn't give it to you dump her and take her to court.
Don't burn bridges in an easily mendable situation.

Oh man that felt really good to read. Am I a terrible person?

He didn't though. She got to it while he wasn't there and against his explicit instructions.

The thing is even if I get back the $1800 I won't ever get a piece like it again, I believe it was worth substantially more.

I purchased it for $1,800, but when I had it appraised it was valued at about $3,000, give or take a few. I had purchased it from an antique bookstore in Tennessee, but the owner clearly wasn't experienced in manuscripts, and had it listed for $2000. So I took a shot in the dark and told him I'd pay $1,800 in cash and he took the offer.

So $1,800 won't even come near getting me another specimen like it. Shit I don't even care if it was only $20. It was my favorite. It even had a little doodle of a stag being hunted at the bottom of the page by the illuminator.

OP is the retard, in more ways than one.

My fucking dog knows not to enter rooms when I tell it not to and this woman can't? OP said the box was in an entirely different room with nothing intended for sale!

This is like blaming OP for his girlfriend shooting herself if he tells her where his pistol is in case of emergency and the combination to the lock.

>allowing anyone else access to your rare and valuable items

Still your fault, bro. Don't let other people have access to your stuff, especially if you're having yard sales.

>more ways than one
Yeah, the girlfriend and you two.

Fucking how?

If I tell you to take the trash out, do you go into the kitchen, grab all the fine china, and smash it on the ground? Does that help you realize how retarded it is to go into a room that I said not to go into, take things from a box I said not to take things from, and sell them?

No. Jared's tale is a modern day chanson de geste.

>Just don't mess with anything in my study babe. Remember, all the stuff that I'm selling is by the door in the boxes with the red tape on them
My exact words before leaving.

You guys keep saying "leaf." I'm just trying to figure out how a leaf would fit in a box. OP, how did you just sell a leaf at a garage sale? Out in the open like that.

A fucking leaf!

dude what

>I had it appraised
Ok, well then she's done. You can get the 3 grand easily if this goes to court. I'm sure she's chatting up her mother/family/friends about this as I type this out so if she tries to deny it later it'll bite her in the ass when you request chat log court transcripts.

You can proceed down the legal route at your leisure.


However:
She seems to be desperate and reaching at whatever she can, she's likely legitimately remorseful. Maybe asking her "well what do you intend to do to fix this" or something along those lines might be warranted. If nothing else you can determine whether or not she actually understands wtf is going on.

Clearly its her fault.
Obviously dont let it go, eventually if you bring it up enough and get angry enough shell feel bad, and maybe actually try and make up for it in some way.
Whatever you do, dont try and make her pay for it, thats I really dumb idea and youll never talk to her again if you do that.

For not keeping something valuable in a more secure location than "in a box in my office," for one, especially if someone is going around the house and picking stuff out for yard sales. And given the way he talks about the girlfriend (like y'know, picking out a specific way he'd like to kill her) I would hazard a guess that we aren't being told the full story, anyway.

>You can get the 3 grand easily
Hell if he cites sentimental value he can get 5 or more if he gets a competent lawyer.

How about you just sue her for emotional damages caused by selling your antiques.

It's pretty clear that not only does she not LISTEN to you, she clearly has ZERO RESPECT for you or your stuff.

Breaking up is the easiest way to make the message clear, but the lawsuit will also make it even more clear.

Personally, I'd also sell all her beloved things too, but that's just being petty.

>Whatever you do, dont try and make her pay for it, thats I really dumb idea and youll never talk to her again if you do that.
Agreed. Only do this if you don't give a shit anymore. Women cannot stand that kind of shit.

fag

>You can get the 3 grand easily if this goes to court.
wwwwwwww I love it when ignorant lay people try to play lawyer wwwwwww~~

I'm going to just sleep at my desk in the study tonight. I'll talk to her tomorrow about it when we've both calmed down.

I'm going to try to make her understand that what she did was the equivalent of wrecking our car. Maybe then she'll understand the gravity of the situation and try to help. Either help me recover it, or give me recompense.

Let me be a big man on the internet Anonymous. Why does anonymous always have to ruin everything?

>youll never talk to her again if you do that
You're saying that like it's a bad thing.

You're gonna see this thing appraised on the Antiques Roadshow for 10,000 dollars in 20 years and break your television.

Adjusted for inflation.

He got it professionally appraised and I assume properly documented. What's being missed?

I'm clearly joking about killing her, you white knighting fag.

If you read the thread, you'd know that it was in a box because we're preparing to move, and I was preparing to relocate the books to a better location until we completed the move.

I thought they cancelled that

I sincerely hope not.

>What's being missed?
an actual lawyer

It must be cool being so rich.

If it were me, she'd already be dead. Unironically. That's a lot of money. More than someone who is that stupid is worth.

You won't be able to get the appraisal value in a courtroom, no. You can get what you paid for it and that's it. And that's assuming you don't live in a state which applies marital property laws to romantic co-habitation regardless of whether you're married or not.

So you have no idea and are trying to start an argument on legality because someone pointed out something obvious.

>tfw they'll crack jokes about the "idiots they bought it off of"
>tfw the appraiser will say "I'm sure that man is having an unhappy day if he's watching this."

no I have a very good idea. Which is why I think all the "legal advice" being given is so hilarious.

>I'm clearly joking about killing her, you white knighting fag.

So angry! I bet these anger issues translate into real life, too. Does your girlfriend know you threatened to kill her?

I did read the thread. It doesn't matter why it's in a box. If it's that valuable, keep it somewhere safer.

>You won't be able to get the appraisal value in a courtroom, no.
Why not?

Not OP.

Jesus, you are an insufferable cunt. She fucked up, not him.

You fell for the sharing anything with any woman ever meme and you paid for it.

>How about you just sue her for emotional damages caused by selling your antiques.
oh god stop

So should I keep it in the safe 24/7 (despite it being framed and intended for display), and then when I'm ready to move, magically teleport it to the new house?

Idiot. I had literally just put it in there today, and it was to be moved tomorrow. My girlfriend isn't going to fuck you for standing up for her on a mongolian moving pictures forum, faggot.

>>>/leddit/

Not him but it's nice that you equate his girlfriend pretty much to a child or a dumb animal that just can't help itself.

If women really can be completely absolved of any responsibility then they shouldn't be granted any rights.

Sauce on that semen demon?

In this situation, what matters is how much he paid for it in the first place.

Or you could take care of your things like a fucking adult instead of carelessly disposing of them then crying on Veeky Forums when the obvious happens.

Why? It was worth more.

So no, she doesn't know you threatened to kill her. Maybe you should show her your comments about her on this thread.

BEATORICHE

Because that's the legal precedent.

Jesus Christ you two are fucking faggots. What should OP have done, shipped it to his new house through UPS or something? Yeah, that's waaaaaaaay safer.

Nigger just sue her and force the guy she sold it to to return the thing.

Depending on what state you're in, that's community property and you can't take her to court.

Jesus Christ there's like no porn of her, what the shit?

>he has a study

Why the hell do you let her into your study?

If you hadn't let her in there she would have never picked up the damned thing.

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I am asking how one fits a Canadian in a box.

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holy shit Veeky Forums is such a fucking goldmine for unintentional comedy.

Question: Were are you going to hide your girlfriends body?

You should have a safe to store your genuinely valuable items when they're not on display.

Again, read the damn thread. I expressly told her not to go into it, and I was at a meeting with my employer. I made the mistake of thinking that my girlfriend was smart enough to understand English but apparently she doesn't know the meaning of "don't".

I'd be pretty pissed too. People are usually good-natured if you track them down. My mom sold a Nero coin of mine while I was away in college but I tracked down the guy. That would be part one of resolving this issue. Do you have any leads? Have you checked Craigslist? Does she remember what he looked like?

Part 2 is making the choice of dumping her or forgiveness. See how okay you are if you get it back.
If you don't get it back, you're most likely not ever going to be happy with her again unless you think that you'll put a ring on it someday in the future. Either way though, do this part second, after you find it/give up.

Problem? It's the truth. There are states where judges have ruled that couples' property becomes community property, even if they're not married. Sorry that it makes your justice boner for OP deflate but that's your own issue.

I do have a safe.I wasn't going to leave shit in there while it's transported so they can bang around and get all fucked up, idiot.

You're going to any length you can to avoid having to admit that a woman fucked up. She's not going to fuck you for being a retard and defending her over the internet, buddy. The cuck is strong with you.