Humanities for fedoras

Let's list fedora things in respect to humanities.

For example, a typical fedora will say the genius "all modern art is just splashes of paint" aka. the "wrong generation syndrome" dressed in pretentiousness.
His favorite two paintings is 1) Friedrich's - Wanderer above the sea of fog (see OP pic), because again it is "epic", and 2) Repin's - Ivan the Terrible and his Son, because "wow those eyes r so intense bro".

The fedora-wearing man thinks he knows classical music because he appreciated Tchaikovsky's 1812 when watching V for Vendetta (because w r legion), alternatively Dvoraks "New World Symphony" because it's "epic sounding" like his video game soundtracks.

He read the wikipedia summary of nihilism once whilst being clinically depressed in HS and thought he figured it out then and hasn't reflected further since. "Nihilism is cool because it means it's okay for me to be an unemphatic ass who parasite of the world". Alternatively he read like Camus's "The Stranger" once and thinks he's deep for having babby's first existentialist thought.

Keep the list going, guys.

Are they mutually exclusive? pic related.

>Alternatively he read like Camus's "The Stranger" once and thinks he's deep for having babby's first existentialist thought.

This is literally half the threads on Veeky Forums

This post nails it. Sick to death of dime a dozen pseudo intellectual wankers spouting off about concepts they don't even understand to appear clever and worldly.

>Let's list fedora things in respect to humanities.

20 year old anarchists/communists or DOOS VOLT traditionalist christfags

A typical fedora will make threads like this.

A fedora is still a hat, right?

>Let's build up a strawman, and attach the word "Fedora" to it. So we can lob it at people we don't like after they've expressed one or two opinions.

No thanks.

this

and it's easy to beatus your philosophical meatus when in real life no one else tries to around you.

>it's the current year and the rest of these morons haven't realized how pointless everything is

Then study it. Don't pathetically read a few captions on google images and think that somehow you are in anyway original or insightful. Make your own philosophies.

Philosophy was never my bag. That's just what I've observed.

The more ambitious fedora-wearing man read Dostoyevski's Crime and Punishment and considers himself connected with Raskolnikov because he too is a miserable fuck who is such a loser it somehow reverses and he lures himself into thinking he's an ubermensch. Unlike Raskolnikov thought he lacks final insight.

what a shit thread

>dude free will isnt real lmao
>dude im a Christian and also a nazi lmao
>dude god is dead lmao
>dude moral realism is true there isnt even a debate about it lmao
>dude modern art is just Tracey Emin taking a shit into Damien Hirsts open mouth lmao
>dude im a race realist lmao
>dude communism in general lmao
>dude the best president ever was Reagan/Obama/JFK/FDR lmak
>dude the best prime minister ever was Thather/Atlee/Churchill lmao
>dude we should have a republic because the queen isnt elected and that is bad because we should elect our powerless figurehead for some reason lmao
>dude buddhism is just hippy bullshit lmao
>dude hinduism is just poo lmao
>dude im a neopagan lmao
>dude jesus was antisemitic lmao
>dude Islam is just people exploding lmao

i have come across all of these fedoracore opinions on Veeky Forums

i think the biggest one is fedoras believing in scientism and as a result following harris, dawkins, etc. and bashing philosopherd

God yes

However awfully enough this goes beyond fedoras and into mainstream pseudo-intellectual 20's something men in general. See: R eddit.

philosophers*

>men
Is there a female equivalent of the fedora?

Hey, Friedreich's painting is really cool, who cares if it's become a fedora thing?

A lot of modern art is indeed talentless, soulless garbage, but there are some cool modernists, like Wyndham Lewis, Kandinsky, etc.

I guess I haven't run into any full-blown fedoras. I know some edgy internet atheists, some redditfags, but never anyone that is a full-blown fedora stereotype.

I think you're the fedora here.

Well the blue-haired fat triggered girls on tumblr could be.

Unlike what fedoras think however these aren't an actual representation of "feminists", so don't get me wrong. I'm referring to those who propagate fat love, censorship in media, etc.

Brilliant, user.

Gothic?... the mere sandcastles.... of the ignorant dark ages...

Modernism?.... the clueless .... and soulless product of our..... fallen and degenerate society.....

Only us few.... us brave men...... are the intellectual heirs of the...... noble Romans...... and the enlightenment..... knowledge is our blade.....intellect our ammunition.... we must..... build the world....... with the mathematical purity of..... neoclassicism...

>buddhism is hippy bullshit

That's one thing that really bothers me- Western buddhists.
For one, they cherry-pick elements of buddhism to fit in a sentimentalist 1960s hippy philosophy, and ignore the parts that don't fit - Buddha being born a warrior-aristocrat in a male-dominated caste society, etc

It seems so inauthentic, the westerner glomming onto a foreign culture that they have no deep roots in, that they only understand through translations of centuries-old texts.
Not that westerners shouldn't study and enjoy the culture of the orient, but that we shouldn't expect the same level of understanding as someone who was born in it.

Really, what it seems like is they see Buddha as a sort of swarthy, exotic Jesus that they can worship as a symbolic act of rebellion against their (typically) christian upbringing.

Sometimes I hang around the art fag crowd, despite being midwest white trash, and I cringe when I hear people talk about religion, pretending to take it seriously, while acting like it's a form of self-expression- I've met 'Neopagan-Buddhists' and 'Jewish-Buddhists'

I think it would be more relevant to list the things that aren't fedora.

>Is there a female equivalent of the fedora?
I see plenty of fat women dressing in pseudo-20s attire with polka dots, triple chins that have neck-acne instead of a neckbeard and a bow in their hair instead of a fedora.

Any woman who uses tumblr

>appreciating culture without pretension
>open-mindedness
>constant reevaluation of one's beliefs
>realizing maturing never ends, and actively making efforts for personal growth

For the record let me just say most 4channers have no idea what Tumblr actually is. The Tumblr presented on Veeky Forums is 1% of Tumblr, it's some strange subculture who use the site - not the site's user base in general.
99% of Tumblr is pure image posting, of interior design, architecture, softcore porn, kittens, food, etc.

I legitimately like Ivan the Terrible and son, it's a very powerful painting. Though I also don't dislike modern art.

It's Ilya Repin, of course it's good. Of course Tchaikovsky is good, and of course Nihlism holds philosophical value. That's not the point.

Not an argument

#triggered

Wait, the Greek Buddhists of the Hellenistic era were all trying to reject Jesus?

>this

I thought fedoras liked gothic architecture because it reminded them of nu-metal and emo album art, but they started not liking it once they realized it was religious

He's making fun of neoclassical architects, not contemporary fedoras. You missed the point.

But... I really like that painting...

It's not liking the painting that is fedora.

I think the OP is trying to make the point that fedoras don't appreciate things for the right reason.

Look at pic related. Why is it beautiful? Because of the gold etching and contrast? Or because someone spent such an effort into designing it to perfectly fit one man, then went through the effort of actually building it?

>or

There are obviously more reasons, senpai, but I'm not going to list them all when I have to beat the capcha's time limit.

/thread

also the most important one is knowing one's place and being aware of dunning-kruger

Ironically, I see this picture posted by reactionaryfags in at least half the hurrdurr modern art threads as an example of "real" art

I can understand it being important for its time but I can't stand it personally. It's an embodiment of every kitsch painting stereotype.

Well I like most romanticism paintings, and still think that "lone warrior battling society" concept isn't irrelevant nowadays.

>kitsch
Is it inherently kitsch, or has it become kitsch by association with kitsch?

>Tchaikovsky is good
Yes, but 1812 overture is an instant casual pleb detector. Nobody with more than a smattering of knowledge would bring it up

>It seems so inauthentic, the westerner glomming onto a foreign culture that they have no deep roots in, that they only understand through translations of centuries-old texts.


Shit, that sounds like most Westerners' relationship with the abrahamic faiths.

>Nietzsche is an example of Ubermensch
Come on now.
>Da vinci
Now you're trying to hard.
>stirnir
spooks pls go
>declaring truth as subjective
You can tell a retard made this.
>de Sade
>Listening to old rapists

By far one of the most telling things I've seen about our modern society, like, you know this was made by someone with no transcendent idea about philosophy, they would be totally lost in a room with everyone they mentioned.

The latter, more than likely. Regardless, it's been ruined for me.

>The abrahamic faiths didn't undergo numerous self revisions
fedora psuedo historian pls go

> ignore the parts that don't fit
Pretty much every sect of Buddhism does this. It's not a rigidly doctrinal religion.

>Really, what it seems like is they see Buddha as a sort of swarthy, exotic Jesus that they can worship
Considering many westerners are attracted to Zen traditions, no.

"Fedora" can be applied to humanities when people try to use something like a philosophical belief as if it is a fashion statement. They embrace it because it makes them feel cool and unique, not that it really is a prevalent or important belief in their life.

I have a friend who always makes sure to bring up the fact that he is a "nihilist" whenever he thinks it's even remotely relevant to a topic of conversation, yet I know for a fact that he hasn't read a word of Nietzche, or any genuine philosophical discourse for that matter. He understands the basic concept but he clearly doesn't understand what it's supposed to fully entail in his life, he's just attracted to the appearance of nihilism and how he thinks it appears in the sight of others.

You can see this in the same vein of teenagers claiming that they have bipolar disorder or clinical depression, even though they have never been professionally evaluated and diagnosed with any such disorders. Claiming that they are fucked up in the head like this makes them feel unique, it gives other people a reason to pay attention to them and think of them differently.

This sounds like some pretty Sesame Street level shit there. Like basic human being shit.

>still think that "lone warrior battling society" concept isn't irrelevant nowadays
Wow, user. Wow.

Tell me more about your war stories, oh lone warrior. How is society fighting you?

> Claiming that they are fucked up in the head like this makes them feel unique, it gives other people a reason to pay attention to them and think of them differently.
This has bothered me so much throughout my life.
I've felt depressed but avoided telling anyone out of fear of being labeled such an "attention whore". Now, recently, I did seek psychological help and they took me very seriously, yet still I can't help but wonder if I'm just not a whiny sensitive little bitch. How would you know the difference?
I don't actively seek attention, but I can't deny it'd be nice to get sympathy. Then again, isn't it a human thing to want basic sympathy when we feel bad?
Where is the true difference? Is it all about actions - shouting out your psychological issues vs. not doing it?

I'm fighting even for my own identity's sake of avoiding starting to labeling MYSELF as a mental case. I feel it would be easy to do so now when regularly visiting the clinic, eating the pills. But again, does the action decide? I legitimately want to get out of this, to seek help but then moved on. Is that good enough then, my intensions?

/rant because this hit very close to home

you dont know how many people forget that shit. its as if they sold their common sense

>dunning-kruger
I don't trust people who namedrop studies to show that they can put a name to a psychological intuition. Consider yourself checked.

You're not alone there. Believe me, when I went out to seek help for my shit that was a big thought at the forefront of my mind.

How have you dealt with it since?

By keeping my problems largely to myself and pursuing whatever help I need without getting others (aside from the medical professionals, obviously) involved.

nigga its just a convenient way of referring to a phenomenon

>Let's list fedora things in respect to humanities.

This kind of encyclopedist profiling of irrelevant but trendy stereotypes would be top of the list

And yet most people don't do it.

In this do you mean it is best to also leave family members outside? And future partners unaware of this [then hopefully to be] psychological history?

I've gone back and forth on this. I expect my shrink will do the classical shrink move and tell me I need to talk about this to my close ones, but I'm not sure it's a good idea. I fear it would just make me labeled.

I did tell one person when thing's were at their worst (right before I sought help). And after that I feel I can now no longer trust anything he says or does to me. Is is because he "feels sorry" for me? Because he thinks he has a moral debt to spend time with me? Completely ruined it. And it'd always lead to that when opening up to people, wouldn't it?

How convenient is it, really?

I wouldn't lie about it, but just always remember that you don't have to tell someone there's something wrong with you.

Though, most people probably won't think much of your issue, and the people that care about you, will probably care and want to help.

"people who act smarter than they really are" - 8 words
"dunning-kruger effect" - 3 words

as convenient as saying table instead of wooden square with four pegs holding it upright

me too my dude, I went to see a few professionals and they recommended medication but I didn't take them. I'm tempted to take them and not tell nyone but I'd find it difficult to take myself seriously.

No, I'm pretty sure you did.

All those brainpills really do is dull your emotions. You aren't as depressed/nervous because you generally lack the ability to feel deeply. It works, but it's a sledgehammer approach.

They also fuck with your dick, which is the reason I stopped taking them. I would avoid unless you're so fucked up you're planning for suicide everyday or can't leave the house in the morning.

Even kitsch has its place. Its just as fedora to dismiss things with that word.

Would you be willing to go so far as to say that there aren't strongly entrenched norms that people are singled out for violating?

>I would avoid unless you're so fucked up you're planning for suicide everyday or can't leave the house in the morning.
I was that way but not anymore. I think part of the reason I wanted to take them was some sort of validation or something. Retarded really.

this thread is the epitome of the cancer that killed this board.

Not really, of course you want validation that your feelings are real.
Thought about therapy?

Where?

that painting is literally the fedora of paintings

pretty good list desu

that's the original fedora so it goes without saying

who ever thought that in the year of our lord 2016 AD people would be accusing eachother of being an outmoded hat on a malaysian tile porn database

truly a wonder to behold

>modern art thread
>lelel fedoras have a toilet
>heres some real art
>posts wanderer
Every time

dunning kruger is people acting smarter than they are it's trying to argue with someone who is dumber than you and having to lower yourself to his level of discourse since he can't understand yours, and then he "beats" you in the argument because he is better at arguing like an idiot than you are since he has more practice doing it

so yeah, dunning kruger is a pretty convenient shorthand.

dinning kruger is NOT people acting smarter than they are*

>They'd be totally lost in a room with everyone they mentioned
I just want you to know that you're the thing I've kek'd the hardest at tonight

wtf are you talking about

The ironic thing is that this post is a good example of the phenomenon.

how

>oh shit guys the pope said something about groups that arent roman catholics lmao
>oh Papa Pope saves all Roman Catholicism from criticism

>ITT: we attach labels to ideas we don't like because we're too lazy/scared to actually argue against them
Lovin the memes

never post in my thread or my son's thread ever again