What was the best ancient Greek state and why was it Corinth?

I was going to say Athens but I was afraid of getting btfo'd

corinth was pretty based.
cool helmets, sweet vase painting, but WORST column capital.

There's a lot of contrarianism for contrarianisms sake on Veeky Forums.

Athens v. Sparta as an analogy for US v. USSR is still taught unapologetically in most political foreign policy and military geostrategy think tanks. The oligarchical naval power with a superior culture vs the backwards authoritarian landbased state. Athens was basically murrica of the period and that in-lies its only flaw.

Obviously it's Thebes. Sacred Band of Thebes fucked Sparta in the ass

The one who defeated Sparta with an army of faggot lovers under the theory that fag couples would fight better was Thebes, so Thebes.

No Pontus love?

Literally and figuratively

Tell that to the Athenians :^)

Honestly I used to hate Sparta purely because of 300 autism, the more research I did on them however the less that was true.

First state ever to defeat a spartan army in pitched battle, and the fuckers were outnumbered too. Butt loving Gods among men

If you can get past the memes they are pretty interesting, but only as much as any other greek polis

Santa Ana held a full military state funeral for the leg he lost

Wrong thread sorry

The Ionian Dodecapolis, of course.

>Colonies from the Caucasus to Iberian Peninsula
>Only commercial competitiors with the Phoenicians

Came here to say this. My one concern is that they aren't sufficiently /meme/.

>not having Arcadia as your favorite
What Is this? Ametuer hour?

Well they were certainly unique in their pursuit of perfection, at least militarily.

You gotta love national-capitalist revisionism

The only answer is Athens. The Spartans were fags who constantly collabrated with the Persians, even the general who won the battle of Marathon tried to lead a helot revolt while dressed like a Persian only a couple of years later.
Although Athens became shitty the other city states were literally who's apart from Macedonia.

tfw no good greek city state simulator video game

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>satrap

into the trash

Came here to post this. Closely followed by Syracuse for giving Athens the fuck out of their own history books by
>having more brilliant mathematicians and philosophers than Athens ever had
>being better at building walls
>killing thousands of anally pained thetes while chilling under a bitching oligarchy

Years of being Sparta's only rival in the Peloponnese pretty much makes you a super soldier.

"There are a lot of Spartan graves on Argive land"

"There are no Argive graves on Spartan land"

I read something like this in Plutarch awhile back

Corinth is based, who doesn't like Corinth?

The Ionian League was the best, with Samos being the stand out.

Reading how that battle went is a bit weird as well.
>spartiates on that flank?
>#yolo bumrush them
>spartan colomn engaged by unexpectedly large numbers and unexpectedly heavy casualties inflicted
>forced into a fighting retreat and the king gets killed
>all this before the rest of the lines have even properly engaged each other
>spartan allies more than happy to fall back as well after seeing this and laugh at spartiates while plotting insurrection

Unless I'm mistaking this with another one of hilarious greek battle.

Thebes or Argos, there is no other alternative ( unless we can count Syracuse )

BUT

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>think tanks
>having any authority

>Not playing Hegemony Gold

GG Pleb.