While Afrocentrism has been discredited as a serious academic movement since the 1990s, in the popular conciousness...

Irish have that they're Scythians from Egypt who got royal pussy. That's a good one.

Nah, fuck off.

All of these antediluvian myths were created in an age where the historical craft was poorly developed or non-existent. They all lost credence after the 19th century with serious archaeological and critical inquiry.

Afrocentrism however exists today, and it will be historiography that changes to support the dominant view of their society, just like how history is increasingly taught on American college campuses - the narrative is created and then facts found to support it.

I really hate that reference to the French. I'm American btw

Oh so we can't discuss the social phenomenon that is Afrocentrism?

How do actual Egyptians view this drama?

It will not be a social movement for much longer. It will claw its way back into serious academia, seeing as how the highest, best-funded, respected and cutting-edge discipline of history is social history.

Nah, fuck off.

Most of the ones I know are fucking furious. But usually, Americans deftly tell them to shut up, as they are Semetic/Arabic invaders and have no genetic resemblance whatsoever to the original inhabitants of ancient Kemet, who are more closely related to Americans, who mostly desecend from West African people.

Concerning.

Okay faggot, please see: to learn why it's important to discuss.

LeL black Americans are starting to claim the aztecs were black now.

Not black, People of Color.

That's black revisionism, not Afrocentrism. Afrocentrism is the perfectly reasonable field of analyzing world history through its effect on Africa and its people.

>GUYS IT DESERVES ACADEMIC RESPECT BECAUSE IT'S POPULAR
lol you people are going to kill Western civilization someday with your blatant disregard for the purposes of institutions

Yet, it will happen. There is nothing you can do to stop this. Historical "truth" is not objective, it is the construct of whichever society or group is dominant at the time. This discredits a lot of so-called "conventional history"

Do these fucks realize there's more than just white and black people on earth? Of course Egyptians were dark and not northern European, it doesn't mean a fuckin thing.

Intersectionality is currently the trending tool for historical analysis. Give it another 20 years, it will enjoy the same sort of academic respectability that Post-Modernism and Post-structuralism does today. These too were considered fringe academic movements but now completely dominate American history faculties, while more traditional and obsolete forms wither and die.

I would recommend all prospective historians today to become Intersectionalists

nice one OP

but realy, the actual extent and existence of cultures in various parts of africa is a known thing, stormfaggotry and we wuzizm arent taken seriously anywhere, and it all generaly spreads amongst uneducated morons who have no realistic conception of such things any way, so its not like it makes a difference
basicaly its all just a factor of how many american blacks get shot that week

theres one simple and important point in all that tho, and it is that mounds, statues, tools and piles of rocks in the middle of nowhere basicaly just signify - 'humans were here'

since humans were and are everiwhere this shouldnt even be a thing to argue about, there is literaly no part of the world where you cant find remains of human presence, in the form of artifacts, piles of rocks, grouped up skeletons etc etc... what the wewuz crowd should take as a hint from this is that ancient africans were human, just like every other fucker any where ever, in fact it would mean they are no better or worse than any of the ones they criticise

Aka black, most black civil rights organizations couldn't care less about anyone other than black people

in fact, there is another problematic dimension of this
namely that it means they are descendants of a long long line of slaves, since the existance of well known 14-19th century states, kingdoms and empires in africa mean, when you think about it, that the people who got exported across the atlantic were allready slaves in those systems, and THAT is why they ended up picking cotton, no one related to the rurels and monarch of africa ever served as a slave unless condemned or defeated in war, whereas in many african cultures even being a descendant of slaves is seen as a designation of inferiority, and most of those cultures were big on social status and hierarchy, except perhaps some of the more isolated, purely tribal ones

in other words, the more they go out of their way to 'proove' that there were developed huiman systems in parts of africa, the more they are making it clear that, yes, africans had developed states and cultures, and they are the ones that these exact states and cultures treated like animals to be bought and sold - which is how they ended up in america in the first place

in a way, slaves will allways be slaves, its not a factor of melanin quantity

But so many other cultures and people were enslaves too. How did Slavs got out of their slave mentality then?

Can not see if taking off anywhere other than the USA and Africa.
Don't rely to much on US cultural influence, it depends on financial might. The US is already well on the road to losing that. China has replaced it in industry. India advances in technology.
The world changes ,constantly.
Prohibition was a big deal in the US, nowhere else.

You're a bad person. Why would you ever recommend that to someone (unless you were recommending that they do so to subvert the movement)?

This intersectionality isn't right, it's weaving a false narrative.

So if Veeky Forums culture becomes dominant, the Finno-Korean Hyper-War will become real?

Is the "egyptians were literally black africans" narrative that strong in the USA? Why do you guys have weird fringe movements everywhere?

>heheh fucking french pansies

I bet a fucking brit is behind this.

Non-whites really need to deal with their inferiority complexes, I tell you hwat

We're a big country.

It is where the money will be made. Academics in the United States who do not have tenure are virtual paupers. Being an intersectionalist will let you be published, bring you funding, respect.

Its not popular among mainstream US academia... yet. But given that it is a widely held cultural belief among American millennials, many of whom are now in college, it is only a matter of time.

Doesn't mean it's right.

For you.

When I say "right" I mean morally so.

Right and wrong doesn't pay the bills. American graduate students are literal prostitutes, they must do what they can to get by and survive. This is purely pragmatic.

Nah, fuck off.

The right is rising in Europe, and America will probably follow, and I doubt they're going to let them away with it

Something about Jews creating fringe movements (or modifying existing unknown fringe movements to suit their needs) and then using their media power to move those fringe movements into the mainstream.

One might believe this, I of course don't...

>Do these fucks realize there's more than just white and black people on earth?
Their very American understanding of anthropology may leave enough room for "Asians."

Then again, maybe not.

Europe can do nothing to America intellectually, all the cutting edge intellectual trends in the humanities are coming out of the US, unlike the sciences (where it is less uneven, but where even the US retains a slight edge). In terms of social sciences, the US is battering the Yurocucks into submission. This is not the day of Derrida or Foucault where Europeans were self-assured in the equality of their civilization with the trans Atlantic bastard, now they eat everything up coming across with a spoon. Look at Oxford, now completely dominated by intersectionality and where are all the faggot English?

America is an intellectual juggernaut that cannot be stopped.

Your obvious obsession with classifying people by the color of their skin and that you think you color or mine should be relevant in a discussion shows what you really are: a racist at heart
Welcome to /pol/!

Asians are only 6% of the US population, therefore, in cultural terms, they are considered globally insignificant.

America will not follow. We will continue down our path.

>Europeans bring West Africans (at most interior) as slaves across the Atlantic for obvious geographical reasons

>the descendants of these slaves think that Africans from the Nilotic countries have anything to do with them

top kek

Neoconservatism?

What you are challenging, is one of the most fundamental beliefs of American youth aged 20-35. In consideration of their feelings, you should cease this harassment/cyberbullying.

Except he was talking about politics which the U.S. can certainly be effected by if the Nazi sympathizers during WW2 are to go by.

The U.S. can still be the leading academic center of the world while leaning towards the right if the movement in Europe is successful. If Trump is elected that will only increase the siuation.

lol at least they could find some west african kingdoms to idolize instead of worshiping Ethiopian and Nubian pharaohs and Ethiopian negus n shiiiieeeeeeeeet

>most fundamental beliefs of American youth aged 20-35.
Not really.
Only niggers and their wimpy lickspittles believe this, the majority just don't give a shit

That seemed like a pretty neutral statement, why did you get so upset?

Implying the implication that it isn't real

Well, those people are wrong. I don't care what they believe.

4U

It's hilarious

Watching people all over the world fap to our ancestors and delude themselves into thinking they wuz Faroz n shiet

It's like, m8 we're still here

Changed language and religion, but then again so did Scotland

Aren't the Copts (more or less) unchanged since back when Egypt was Christian/Roman?

If so the "hurr hurr a tiny amount of Arab blood got in at some point and they converted to Islam and speak Arabic" copout doesn't apply.

The United States intends to impose its views and historical experience of race and racial relations on the rest of the world. Soon, countries like Spain will be forced to ban this custom, as Americans consider it triggering.

Copts are actually a bit diluted with Greek blood too

And what cop out are you talking about?

Only about 4,000 Arabs invaded this land which was occupied by millions, even less stayed. And we shunted the new bedouin tribes to Sudan and the Maghreb for being backwards and retarded centuries later.

90% of our DNA is the same

Here's your (you)

youtube.com/watch?v=01nPO3Hmkb0

It's an American meme.

social development, stratification and intermarriage trough generations

like say the british decided irish werent ''realy human''(they almost did this any way) and used them as slaves instead of people they bought from say benin or nigeria

after abolition these would mostly intermix and you wouldnt even have the notion of 'those other guys' except maybe if someone was so very ginger its an eyesore

similarly, in many places like ottoman empire or china, slaves would integrate more easily and freed slaves were not realy percieved as that much of a low status, not lower than servants and pesants any way, in fact the staus of being free was more problematic in itself than possible 'ranking', all these intricacies and soft borders made it easier to assimilate
plus, castration was a thing in much of the world, so you didnt realy get a sustainable slave population, and females always integrate more easily, especialy in patriarhal cultures where shes part of a household any way, also, slaves werent that segregated

slaves themselves werent seen or treated as animal either, all sorts of different types of slavery and slaves existed, in some instances a slave could have higher rank than ordinary people

but with the whole race specific slavery thing, where the slave is designated by his skin color and assumed to be a head of cattle, and then with lingering rasist logic in local culture, segregation etc... the former slave population is isolated and so maintains its slave mentality and culture, only without both the constrains and the support of the former system

also notice slave mentality and the like do not relate so much to individual thinking, behavior or tendencies but to the general functioning and behavior of the that given population on the whole, meaning it gets worse in isolated agregate

all of which means that after liberating a whole distinct population without allowing them to fully interact and integrate, what you get is humans going feral

>open link
>WE WUZ KANGZ

I don't know why I didn't expect it

The underlying reason that /pol/ hates this meme is because it reveals their stupid nostalgia and claims on their "ancestors" as equally dubious. Americans are largely the descendants of poor, criminals, outcasts, etc. They try and claim the mantle of "Western Civilization" (which is also madeup claptrap) but did little to obtain that other than genocide the native americans and enslave the blacks and steal from true innovative minds like Tesla.

In short, We Wuz Kangs = MAGA. It's two sides of the same lie that idiots tell themselves to make up for their shitty present moment. Instead of joining a union or getting a national holiday for voting or something useful, they'd prefer to escape into *sniff* Pure Ideology .