Sex in history and philosophy

Chastity belts are a perfectly normal and healthy fetish to have, its fine if you want to admit it.
We are accepting here. Don't feel afraid to say it.

I rest my case

No one will judge you if you are.

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Read up on Marquis de Sade

see Gilles de Rais

Hedonism is a respectable philosophy and you can't tell me otherwise

I talked to a feminist who said that in hunter gatherer times the women slept with every man and this was allowed because nobody would know who the offspring was, thus the children would be from the tribe as a collective. I was a bit skeptic about that since women are highly selective of partners and most likely had a (mostly) monogamous relation with the best partner they could get.

There are a ton of different takes in tribal society. Do I need to take you to papa new guinea?

The only thing I know is that the Greco-Romans literally fucked a plant to extinction. Said plant had prophylatic properties and was a cousin of the fennel.

A lot of mythologies have a ton of fucked up sex stories, though. Japanese creation myths are a hoot. And the ancient Egyptians believed that one of their gods masturbated the Nile into existence. Also Horus and Set trying to put their sperm into each other because SUCCESSION REASONS.

That's how chimpanzees and bonobos act, and they are our closest relatives. Chimps do it because if they fuck every male, then the leader male wont kill the baby if it isn't his. It could be his so he lets it live.
Bonobos just don't give a fuck.
So based on what evidence we had, large family units seem most likely

There are different perspectives on it.

Hunter-Gather tribes we know are mostly monogamous, regardless of geography.

On the other hand we know chimpanzee do exactly as she's said because otherwise with each alpha male rising to power, all the kids of previous alpha would have troubles surviving(since the now-new alpha wants to kill them) as happens to other primates.

I have the perfect documents for this thread. I'll scan a few when I get back from work.

Isn't Papua New Guinea the one where girls lied to an anthropologist that they were huge sluts and that pre marital sex was no big deal, when in truth they were required to marry virgin?

And then, said anthropologist became very famous and that book ended up influencing Western Society views on premarital Sex?

You can see various changes in customs and attitudes and laws in various cultures and societies and periods.

But, imo, by and large those changes are small and trivial. Sex is sex. It's biological and something of a constant.

If you look at porn from the earliest silent film, you might spot differences in hair styles or shaving patterns, but it really isn't that much different from porn made today. I think, more or less, the same can be said regardless of the period. That thought might be either comforting or boring, depending on the perspective.

>I talked to a feminist

Stopped reading there

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>but it really isn't that much different from porn made today.
Yeah, you're probably right. Now, excuse me, but I must go masturbate to japanese cartoon children competing over who can launch the highest arc of shit from their assholes(plural).

>Enya boy choir crap
>/mu/-core

I don't get it.

He's 100% right.

What is the oldest pictural representation of genitalia or people having sex?

Papua New Guinea has a huge range of sexual cultures.

There's the Baining who shun sexual intercourse even for procreation, preferring to adopt if possible and only fucking when necessary

There's the Trobrianders who are entirely "liberated" sexually, kids start experimenting sexually with each other around 7/8 and are encouraged to do so. Sex is an open affair but eating together is taboo and marriage is consummated not by sex but by the first time the couple eats together. After a year the woman may divorce her husband if she is unhappy, the husband can do so at any time.

There's also the ritualised homosexuality of the etoro, which is kekworthy

That was Samoa, yo.

I don't think that Margaret Mead is recognized as being a very serious academic anymore, although most students of ethnography end up reading her crappy book.

The modern otaku has better taste. What the fuck is the guy on top even fucking?

Also, I wouldn't say that it influenced Western views of premarital sex. The views in the book did challenge Western views on the universality of ideas like virginity being a virtue and the immorality of teenage foolin' around. But those are views that had been challenged continually throughout the 20th century and possibly earlier.

Some paleolithic rock figurines no doubt.

In fact I remember hearing about how some very early archeologist-monk in France found stone-age figurines of (probably) homosex and drew copies of them but subtly added tits to the figurines.

A blanket with some sort of pseudo-vagina crafted in, while looking at a portrait of a kabuki actor.

Thobrianders don't sound that bad (except the eating thing, which is odd, but whatever)
Shame they were stuck to a single island tribe in butfuk new guinea

meant to

>Shame they were stuck to a single island tribe in butfuk new guinea
It's better than being macheted and gangraped by Raskols on mainland PNG

I meant imagine if these guys were as influential in their mythology and philosophy as PIE's

>I meant imagine if these guys were as influential in their mythology and philosophy as PIE's
Pretty cool to imagine.

Will user deliver?

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Sex is fun, yo. I'm sorry your religion keeps you from enjoying it.

>Thobrianders don't sound that bad (except the eating thing, which is odd, but whatever)
>Shame they were stuck to a single island tribe in butfuk new guinea

Those are both related...
The traditional sexual mores had a reason for existing. But then, 20th century people decided they knew better (without thinking why those mores existed in the first place) and we ended up with the current problems.

Fucking sucks that they didn't farm it.
Could you imagine a world were reliable birth control existed throughout history?

>Could you imagine a world were reliable birth control existed throughout history?

Literally sinful.

All sex that is not between a man and wife for the purposes of procreation is inherently disordered. You don't need God to tell you this either. Sociology does a good enough job showing how the breakdown of the family, premarital sex, homosexuality, pornography, etc, has had negative effects on society.

You can read this if you want some truth.

Literally every sociologist with credence disagrees with you and says all the thing you say are unhealthy is not only normal and healthy but also benificial.
If it wasn't we would be fucked for sure because of how prevalent all of those things are in history for every single human
Fuck off with your Christian propaganda, I know you mastubate too so stop complaining.

>christians cannot have sex!

Sure thing family.

Long story short: The devil hates mankind, the devil comes to earth and brings his sons, the devil manipulates the bible, the first thing the devil attacks is sexual freedom.

And of course children of the devil will pretend to be christian and that sex is a no-no.

Sure, I mean, a prostate that gives enormous anal pleasure to guys? Surely God did that one as a joke to punish you.

Oh, if you wanna prove me wrong do a miracle, not a nonsense but an actual miracle, try moving mt everest to madrid.

>Literally every sociologist with credence disagrees with you and says all the thing you say are unhealthy is not only normal and healthy but also benificial.
>but also benificial.

Now that's a blatant lie. I'm pretty sure there has been nothing beneficial about homosexuality in history. They die at younger ages, they are more likely to have (other) mental illnesses, they have partners in the 100s, and up to 50% of them they only fuck once, they aren't good parents, they are largely non-monogamous and don't respect commitment, they spread behaviourally-driven diseases such as AIDS with incredible success.

Premarital sex among teenagers either leads to literal child sacrifice and organ harvesting or some single unprepared teen girl raising a child who will undoubtedly grow up with issues. Children born to single parent and dysfunctional households suffer.

And leftist degenerates who like to quote Freakonomics and link abortion to crime rate drops agree with this without wanting to accept all that comes with it.

And internet pornography is just demonstrably unhealthy. Any neuroscientist can tell you this. Don't even need sociologists.

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> All sex that is not between a man and wife for the purposes of procreation
What so bad about sex between a man and his wife but without purpose of procreation?

>sociologist with credence

The last part is there so people can break the rules and feel naughty without causing any real harm.

Well... This is retarded logic. If you create useless rule then people soon would shit on useful one too.

Then why do so many animals which are completely successful show homosexual tendencies, even in the wild? They haven't gone extinct from it.
I think you just have problems with human nature. People have been doing the things you've listed since the dawn of man. All of our ape relatives are degenerate and we are no different. If its such a problem we would have been extinct a long time ago.

>They die at younger ages, they are more likely to have (other) mental illnesses, they have partners in the 100s, and up to 50% of them they only fuck once, they aren't good parents, they are largely non-monogamous and don't respect commitment, they spread behaviourally-driven diseases such as AIDS with incredible success.
[citation needed]
>literal child sacrifice and organ harvesting
kek wat
>some single unprepared teen girl raising a child who will undoubtedly grow up with issues
Ill give you that one
>Children born to single parent and dysfunctional households suffer.
While it is harder i [citation needed]
>And internet pornography is just demonstrably unhealthy.
>pic related

Are you from reddit or something
I've never seen someone try do desperately hard to be funny and fail so miserably

You sure are cool

>there are people that actually think like this
>I'm never a click away from a High Middle Ages peasant

What a time to be alive.

This post is pure b8