What are some books about geek culture?

likme
likme

What are some books about geek culture?

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Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Maters of Doom
why do people keep making fun of this guy? he's just reacting to trailer. What have you never been excited before?

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BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

why do people keep making fun of this guy? he's just reacting to trailer. What have you never been excited before?
I think the issue is how forced and for-profit it is. I'll admit that I screamed when Shenmue III was revealed, but I'd never film myself for it, now matter how genuine my excitement was.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Ready Player One and Armada accidentally expose how vapid geek culture is. Ernest Cline is a shallow consumerist who doesn't have any self-awareness whatsoever.

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FastChef
FastChef

Jesus Christ, its like watching my three year old get excited.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

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King_Martha
King_Martha

That's it. I'm going to write a book about Soyboys called "SOY". It'll be like Houllebecq's Submission but explore the realities of how dangerous popculture and using it as a replacement for real religion and literature. The main character one day wakes up and realizes he has nothing in common with his "geek" friends and tries to befriend some normies but realizes he doesn't fit in there either after being cock blocked. In turn he sets out to start some anit-popculture movement which spawns into a religion. Simon Pegg plays the main character in the inevitable movie adaptation.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Why did Simon Pegg agree to star in Ready Player One after he wrote that greentext about geek culture?

idontknow
idontknow

I would guess Spielberg talked him into it. He's a massive Spielberg fanboy.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

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hairygrape
hairygrape

Explain why geek culture is vapid.

Playboyize
Playboyize

kill all normies

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Would read.

Techpill
Techpill

Start with the geeks.

Emberburn
Emberburn

Percy Jackson obviously.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Cash rules everything around me.

SniperWish
SniperWish

I would read it. I also need something like The Man Asleep but with a geek protag obssesed with japanese culture.

WebTool
WebTool

CAPTAIN AMERICA!!!!

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LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

I thought this was Riley and we were still making fun of him for losing Mew.

Would read, but either needs a better title or damn good cover art.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

I've never been that excited about anything in my life. Am I broken?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

It practically explains itself, user. Grown men throw aside religion and philosophy and instead embrace silly comic books that were written to entertain children. These men spend all of their spare money on useless hunks of plastic and get orgasmic over formulaic blockbuster movies. If you don't see anything vapid about that then you're part of the problem.

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FastChef
FastChef

Take into account that he's on camera looking for clicks, so his reactions are going to be turned up to 10.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

No. It's not normal to be that excited about a fucking movie. I've been that excited after getting in a terrible car crash and not being injured, but that was a different emotion I think.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Who cares if they’re happy?
It’s not as if philosophy or literature have an particule value either.
Just do what makes you happy bro.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

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Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

I'm not falling for it. Geek culture manchildren don't browse Veeky Forums.

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Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Holy fuck. The soy-boys actually exist!

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

youtu.be/PKuKx5K7e4c?t=50s

Spamalot
Spamalot

Simply ebin. I'm sure it won't be didactic garbage.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

ppl don't realize this whole thread is viral marketing for captain america

keep bumping the ads you fucking pleb trash

happy_sad
happy_sad

Why did Simon Pegg agree to star in Ready Player One
$$$$$

takes2long
takes2long

haha just spend the rest of your life holed up in an opium den bro, as long as ur happy haha

w8t4u
w8t4u

"Explain why geek culture is vapid."
gets an answer
"Who cares if they're happy?"
"Just do what makes you happy bro."
Why are you trying to dodge the fact that geek culture is completely hollow?

iluvmen
iluvmen

An old book about a murder of a nasty but popular science fiction author taking place at a convention.

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Playboyize
Playboyize

Literature is an opium too.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Who cares if they’re happy?
They're not, that's the problem. They've filled a hole in their life with pop culture knick-knacks

Methshot
Methshot

geek culture is just a nostalgia trip like sports fandom, it's not like people who watch sports arent just tripping back to their days in little league in grammar school or being a high school in hero or whatever, geek culture is the same stuff but for the less athletic, nostalgia for video games, cartoons, comic books, etc. feeding manchildren has always been big business

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Simon Pegg plays the main character in the inevitable movie adaptation.

You should make this part of the book as a sort of meta commentary.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Um no I think they're categorically distinct pleasures, retard

Flameblow
Flameblow

Is this deliberate parody? Surely people can't be this much of a soyboy by accident?

SniperGod
SniperGod

No one is saying there's something inherently wrong with enjoying comic books or blockbusters. The problem is the media have turned this meaningless entertainment into an identity. It's all a sinister marketing scheme and many of the people who fall for it end up leading meaningless lives.
The key difference is modern geek culture completely consumes people.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

What do you think they should have to "full their hole" them?

SniperWish
SniperWish

Why?
There's almost no difference between Marvel movies and Homer works

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

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StonedTime
StonedTime

No one ultimately has to do anything. I just attack them because I think that their unbridled support of comic book film is ruining popular cinema, which is a passion of mine.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

The key difference is modern geek culture completely consumes people.

i guess u never met a hardcore sportsfan before

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

popular cinema is a passion of mine

why do i bother reading a board filled with the weakest bait

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Difference between sports fans and Capeshit consumers are that Capeshit consumers have zero integrity or personality of their own since they are warped up in letting companies make decisions for them when it comes to media.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

I have not seen said greentext. Where may I find it?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Literally nothing inherently wrong with popular cinema. They're not superior to art film, but they do serve a particular purpose given that the scale they're capable of can't be achieved by any other sort of film

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Just because their place in culture is similar does not mean there is no difference. That capeshit has entered such a prominent place in our culture is why it deserves so much disdain. Marvel movies lack artistry, lack substance, and lack meaning. It's a hostile take over of our mythos by literal plastic mongers.

Spamalot
Spamalot

sports fans are fans of corporate entities, the yankees today are completely different personnel than the yankees of twenty years ago, but people are still hardcore "yankees fans" etc. they're basically loyal to a logo, if you think sportsfans are not deplorable i urge you to go to some sportsfan bullshit, its just as lame as any anime or comic book convention, capeshit is just a way to sell merchandise to people too unathletic to get hooked on sports consumption

Emberburn
Emberburn

Never knew there was a greentext, but Pegg has been pretty vocal about his disdain for "nerd culture". Basically he rightly calls it out as a a consumerist cash grab which marketing moguls have taken advantage of to make big bucks. Ironic, then, that he ran to RP1 when Spielberg threw money his way.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

There's a very big difference. Sports organizations bring a sense of community to their cities, and provide an economic locus of activity. They draw in tourists, and help establish a city as "legitimate". Additionally, they don't change all at once. This means, despite having none of the same personnel, there is still often a central attitude or culture or ethos that surrounds the team over time. The organization, and more importantly the fan base which drives it, maintain a continuous sense of character. Anime and comic book fandoms are a bastardization of this tribal derivative. They serve no function whatsoever. The only worth they have is in preserving and sharing creative work, which of course can only be valuable to the extent the creative work is valuable. Since most of it is vapid trash or childish fantasy, there is little good that comes out of it. To really see the difference, compare the models--geekdoms are sustained by the whales, they're propped up by the hardcore fan who spends an inordinate amount of money on product that no one else cares about, whereas sports teams, while having plenty of whales, rely on broad appeal. It is more important for the cubs to sell a hat to thousands of people, then to sell an entire wardrobe and lifestyle to a few hardcore fans. One relies on childish consumption habits, and the other relies on trivial enthusiasm.

SniperWish
SniperWish

sports fans are fans of corporate entities
Only in pro sports. College sports has at least some modicum of integrity left, though it too has become a vehicle for rampant consumerism. At least with college sports there's actual history, rivalries, traditions, and school pride being played for.

DeathDog
DeathDog

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Supergrass
Supergrass

It's possible there's something subversive about the movie then. Spielberg has made some remarks where he suggests that Hollywood needs to start making original movies again, stop just playing on everyone's nostalgia, and what not, right before selling RP1. A big issue of movie making is that it's steered by the people with money, not the people with the skills. Pegg's career is built off "nerd-dom". He can be mad at how hollywood studios are treating the things he loves, but he's not been able to find cross-over success in another genre. His only way of changing things is by making the money now, continuing to get bigger and bigger roles, and then using his money and influence to change what happens next. It's also a thing, where you don't exactly want to turn down Spielberg. He's one of the true kings of hollywood. The way he's been speaking, maybe this is his way of ending the game. Cline may be clueless, but Spielberg is not. Either he's completely cynical, or he's got something up his sleeve.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

SOYBMISSION

Techpill
Techpill

no don't. My life isn't ready for an biography.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

real religion

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Spazyfool
Spazyfool

A religion can be real but untrue.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Steven Spielberg is a pedophile who launders drug money

5mileys
5mileys

Where do you draw the line? Age? Number of stories? Number of worshipers? At what point does something stop being "pop culture" and become real culture? Is there any argument here beyond appeal to antiquity?

askme
askme

How many funko pops do you own?

Techpill
Techpill

Trailer reactions on YouTube are nothing but pure validation, both for the uploader and the viewer.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

At what point does something stop being "pop culture" and become real culture?
You're doing a sleight of hand there, I was talking about real religion, not real culture.

Real religion is that which is actually regarded as religion rather than something that somewhat resembles it.

Nojokur
Nojokur

80% of media discussion is just people trying to impress others with their opinions, in the hopes it will get them excepted. Nobody is completely exempt from this, it just seems so much worse when you can actually see the desperation in their eyes.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Real religion: Catholicism
Rest: untrue
Easy as that.

King_Martha
King_Martha

I'm not saying it's a good thing mate.
Even then, that's a hard line to draw. Is Mormonism a real religion? It's a recent phenomenon, we have plenty of accounts of its formation. If it's real because of its connection to Christianity does this validate every prophet who uses the bible as a reference?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

This so much

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Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Are you deliberately missing the point? That user was comparing religion to something like Marvel comics or Harry Potter.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Top kek

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

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Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Happiness is for children and older people. Adults should suffer and meditate about the weight of life.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Of course Satan would say that

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Stupidasole
Stupidasole

This thread needs more reading suggestions. How about:

I am Providence by Nick Mamatas
Jpod by Douglas Coupland
Microserfs by Douglas Coupland
Rapture of the Nerds by Doctorow and Stross
Any of Doctorow's many YA novels
You by Austin Grossman
Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson has some good sections on the topic

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Oh, I didn't notice. The amount of times I've gotten 666 trips is insanely high. I'm a Christian so I don't know how to feel about it.

5mileys
5mileys

Some OC

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PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Comic book conventions do all of those things. Even Free Comic Book Day events, if you've been unfortunate enough to ever witness one, have people lining up down the street. People travel, book hotel rooms, spend boat loads of money to congregate at these events. There is a community to it.

Actually, anime expos are funny. Someone should take pics of crowds and play a guess if it's a Pride or an Anime event type game.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Because people know him for geek shit and it's an easy paycheck

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

The Culture Industry

StonedTime
StonedTime

Maters of Doom
The story about Carmack breaking into his school with thermite, then telling the juvy officer he would do it again was great. Same with him simply ending their multi year D&D campaign after Romero got greedy and ended the world chasing some magical sword..
That whole book is fascinating. Definitely more of a biography about a collection of people, and the tech and business changes they started rather than video games

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

No one has seriously beleived in religion for decades, including everyone on this board. And philosophy has never been something the majority partook in.

DeathDog
DeathDog

That sounds good but choose another name that doesn't reek of /pol/.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Not like that, no.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Childhood is looking up to John Romero
Adulthood is realizing John Carmack is the actual cool guy of the group

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Unironically, the Frankfurt School. Yes, they're Jewish, yes, they're Marxists, but they have insightful criticisms of modern hyper-consumerism and the commodification of art.

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GoogleCat
GoogleCat

What about Growing Down? I could add in some stuff about a cultural revolution happening where people literally go to war over defending their capeshit brands. I feel like this should be the next Veeky Forums writing project.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

It's possible there's something subversive about the movie then. Spielberg has made some remarks where he suggests that Hollywood needs to start making original movies again, stop just playing on everyone's nostalgia, and what not, right before selling RP1.

That's the joke.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

all weebs are geeks
you are retarded

King_Martha
King_Martha

philosophy and religion
your trying too hard to fit in

5mileys
5mileys

I love Carmack.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Charlie Kaufman detected

likme
likme

I never said that. Just a geek that happens to be a weeb too.

Skullbone
Skullbone

The day that Satan is the voice of reason.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

What are some books about geek culture?
that would require that geeks have culture
what they have is memes
and in that vein, RPO is the meme book

Lunatick
Lunatick

they take the Jordan Peterson view on religion.

cain and abel is a true story because it reveals that murders happen

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

people literally go to war over defending their capeshit brands
kek. I would unironically buy such a book if written seriously. I can actually picture a soyboy army marching with a 300 lb neckbeard holding a flag with the logo of his favorite franchise. The anti pop culture movement could be a conglomeration of /pol/ and /leftypol/ types who hunt down Hollywood and gaming executives and dragging out from their homes in the middle of the night.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

geeks don't behave this way
geekls who go to comic con behave this way

idontknow
idontknow

Riley unjusted himself, we're waiting for him to get that Scottish cocksucker!

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

What have you never been excited before?
About a trailer for an extended toy commercial? Can't say I have, side effects of testosterone you see

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

keep us updated on your progree

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

It is because becoming part of the culture is nothing more than a trend. Those that participate in it only do so for some sort of pathetic validation by lord knows who. Their enjoyment and claims of being a fan are just superficial. When you get down to it, it's nothing more than a front. A front to make up their lack of a personality or any other interesting traits.

Booteefool
Booteefool

Disney has managed to make a generation of intellectually defective effeminate men grow emotionally attached to some bland, dull, artless franchise of grown up dudes dressing up as comic characters and fighting other sunday morning cartoon characters
Legit evil but brilliant nonetheless

Spamalot
Spamalot

he's just reacting to trailer

Why do people even watch these videos? Why do people care about some literary whos reaction to trailer

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

pop culture has literally always been like this

iluvmen
iluvmen

Look at the highest grossing movies of any given year in the 70s. They weren't nearly as infantile

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

it is not "culture" so much that capitalism is a "culture". without going into quasi-religious comparison such as but entertainment and virtue filled heroes are what people are going to idolize of what makes a strong person. But they never explore the grey areas of morality, because for the most part like villains and heroes., its black and white and easy to stand on the same side as those who are championed.

But geek culture isn't so much predicated on just watching or reading comics and such, its being spurned as "LE SCIENCE IS EPIC XDDD" meanwhile 90% of them are scientifically illiterate and industrial capitalism encourages this overconsumption of Netflix originals, Marvel and Disney films coming out every week and a compulsion to keep buying in order to stay up to date.

I know several friends who have almost gone bankrupt because of the over excessive consumption of exclusive video game bundles, movie tickets, a litany of merchandise and other accouterments that eclipse any semblance of personality. You can enjoy all those things, and still be a functional human but the "culture" rests on constant information constant watching without any real though

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Inmate
Inmate

Like a cult? No, it didn't

TechHater
TechHater

adolescent culture didn't exist until the middle class was invented, and that was less that 100 years ago, so if by always you mean the last 50 years, maybe and even then that's debatable

what you have now arguably is adolescent culture becoming all culture and replacing any sort of "adult" lifestyle

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