Roman Emperors General

Augustus set up a stable civil service and ended years of civil war. He got the Roman Empire off to a good start.

IDK what you mean by his successors. His immediate successors were Tiberius and Caligula, both who were fucking awful.

Its amazing his shitty family didn't kill the Empire in the first 100 years. Tiberius wouldn't even go to Rome because the people hated him. He let Sejanus turn it into a pleb run police state with constant show trials and purges.

Caligula was somehow worse.

Diocletian was ok but he had a retarded succession scheme. He had two Caesars and one Augustus all on the same side, causing the Tetrachry to spin apart.

The correct answer is: Restitutor Orbis Aurelian. Didn't get to be emperor long, but he basically put a broken empire back together again.

Tiberius was a evil a perverted man that killd caligulas parents and held caligula as a prisoner on his island capri'
caligula or (gaius julius caesar) could have been a great ruler but tiberius destroyd that. and gave rome a man whoes soul and life was destroyed. he was a victim!!!!!

tiberius is one of the reason why the ancient roman empire has such a bad rep he was realy a decadent and perveted man
the roman people hated tiberius

worst rulers of Rome

1.nero
2.tiberius
3.commudus

idiot

>>>/africa/

Please go back nigger, and stay there.

Trajan has my vote.

>top-tier emperors

>Augustus Caesar
>Trajan
>Hadrian
>Marcus Aurelius
>Diocletian
>Constantine
>Julian the Apostate
>Justinian
>Heraclius
>Alexius I Komnenos
>Constantine XI

You all know this to be true

Augustus nigger

>Tiberius awful
t. Cassius and other Senatorial faggots

>created welfare programs for the poor
>he was kind of like the ancient world Bernie Sanders
He didn't tell the Romans they don't know what it's like to be poor.

>Constantine was the absolute worst, everything went downhill when he accepted Christianity
On the contrary, the reign of Valentinian afterward is considered one of the Empire's golden ages.

>no Gaius Julius Caesar

>emperors

?

Julius Caesar was never an emperor. His great-nephew and adopted son Augustus Caesar was the first emperor.

Augustus
Vespasian
Trajan
Hadrian
Antoninus
Marcus Aurelius
Aurelian
Constantine

>Diocletian was also one of the few emperors who voluntarily gave up their power. What a great guy he was.
Just because he wanted to prove his shitty tetrarchy would be a good idea, which it wasn't.
He retired to a huge city-mansion. Not very humble.

How was Augustus Caesar's step son again? How does the adoption after death work?

lmao

>which it wasn't
How so?

Julius adopted Octavian (Augustus) in his will and made him his legal heir.

>How does the adoption after death work?
Adoption basically just means your chosen successor for Roman emperors.

Under Diocletian, it worked decently because everyone knew he was the real deal. Afterwards there was no clear leadership between the four and it led to disorder.

>in his will
Holy shit, really? I thought it was all just a part of Augustus' power-tripping.

>best emperor
>not caligula

get out of here you Jewish heretics

Nero
Caligula
Commodus

> no Vespasian

Vitellius pls go

>brainlets will debate this

>son of a freed slave (mother) and peasant farmer (father)

>disdainforplebemperors.zip

>no mention of Marcus Licinius Crassus

What do people think of Memoirs of Hadrian?

Romulus Augustus for most ironic name in history.

>"Don't post that Byzantine garbage, that's not the Roman Empire."
>posts a bunch of Byzantine emperors

Augustulus*

The opinion of some meme autist doesn't just magically make the Byzantines non-Roman.

>Diocletian
>Julian the Apostate
*tips fedora*

What about Marucs Aurelius? How was he as a leader?

>Romulus Augustus
Why is that ironic?

But they fucking aren't.

Not only did they not speak the same language, they also weren't the same people.

>not only did they not speak the same language
>same language
>everyone in the unified roman empire spoke latin
hurr durr

Scipio Africanus was pretty cool

It's not ironic but it is coincidental that the emperor named for the founder of rome and the founder of the empire was exiled to effectively kill both.

You forgot Majorian but good list otherwise.

Augustulus was a diminutive nickname tho

Looked more like this probably

Good list

>Antoninus

Comfiest emperor

>Don't post that Byzantine garbage, that's not the Roman Empire

Fuck you, Justinian and Heraclius are based

>everything went downhill when he accepted Christianity

just one more thing....

>filename

I can't believe they let a Carthaginian be Emperor.

How far Rome fell.

>Trajan
>Ancient world Bernie Sanders

lel OP you delusional fuck.

Berbers were never black. Since the introduction of the Camel, the Saharan berbers have become much more mixed.

I am extremely interested as to why you think Caligula was the best emperor.

Why is it so fucking hard for you autists to accept that there was actually a black emperor?

Add Constantius III to the list, remove Constantine.

You're wrong, Berbers originate from Eastern Africa, yes Saharan Berbers have become much more mixed which coincides with the Arabization of Northern Africa.

>Don't post that Byzantine garbage, that's not the Roman Empire.

What legitimate authority does the WRE have over the ERE as far as being "the real" Roman Empire. Legally WRE was inferior to the ERE

>The opinion of some meme autist doesn't just magically make the Byzantines Roman.

Because there wasn't.

Take your we wuz caesarz and shiet routine elsewhere.

Because there wasn't. Caracalla wasn't black. Syrians aren't black. Berbers aren't black.

why is it so fucking hard for niggers to accept their irrelevance?

>Carthaginigger kills his brother to become emperor
>He is the worst piece of shit ever only eclipsed by his successor Elagabalus

Macinus did nothing wrong desu

Murder and conquest does not make an emperor great. Peace and stability led to Rome's golden age.

Well the WRE actually controlled Rome so there's that.

Why do black people need to insist that every single historical figure who isn't dually recorded as being lily-white blond-haired and blue-eyed MUST have been black?

Rome held little value by the last two centuries of the WRE.

The Byzantine Empire is only referred to as such by historians to differentiate it between when the East Roman Empire existed with the WRE and after when the WRE fell.

It is the exact same empire however.

Why are Byzantines considered non-Roman again?

Because of a meme.

>Eastern
>Roman
>Empire

Not the same people.

Byzantines are primarily descendants of Ancient Greeks, not Romans.

I fucking hate when people say this, it just shows how little they know of the era.

Rome stopped being relevant in about 200 AD.

By the 4th century Milan, Ravenna and shit even Trier, were more important cities.

And WRE was mostly filled with people who descended from Iberians, Bretons and Gauls. What's your point?

The point is that Romans are not the same people as Byzantines.

>Gauls
not really

>he was kind of like the ancient world Bernie Sanders.
This guy "saw" the future

You are such a fucking idiot.

So the eastern half of the empire was never part of the Roman empire then? Jesus Christ I can only assume that the outrageously anachronistic understanding of ethnic identity is ubiquitous on this board because it is largely populated by neckbeard History Channel aficionados.

and what period did the "Romans" stop being "Roman"?
when they began to expand outside of Rome itself and the 7 hills into the rest of Latium? Or out of Latium into the rest of Italy? When they took over Cisalpine Gaul? When they expanded into Transalpine Narbonensis Gaul? Sicily?
Post-212 and the Constitutio Antoniniana?

you're a fucking retard, "Byzantines" aren't even a people unless you're referring to people who inhabited the Greek colony of Byzantion, its a shitty term invented by some french poofs that has now become twisted by pan headed niggers like yourself

This motherfucker right here, no question.

He achieved more in his short reign than most Roman Emperors put together. His military record is stellar, he was severely just and punished corrupt officials mercilessly. He was one of the very few individuals of the time period to even understand, let alone attempt to rectify the god awful economic situation the Empire was in - his coinage reforms actually provoked a mint-workers revolt in Rome, which he put down brutally.

Let alone the fact that within three years Aurelian united the entire Roman world which was on the brink of total collapse from three splinter states into one whole, at the same time as successfully fending off constant barbarian incursions.

Were it not for that massive faggot secretary of his, he would likely have seen great success in his Persian campaign as well.

The best Roman Emperors came from the provinces, not Italy. Except for Augustus of course.

Roman is a cultural thing you fool. There are no ethnic romans or ethnic byzantines. If you apply the same standard to the WRE, it was never a roman empire.

The patricians spoke Greek, they worshipped Eastern gods and cults, their armies were full of provincials, their emperors were Syrians, Iberians, and Illyrians. Rome itself was irrelevant for two centuries before the WRE fell.

Unless you seriously want to claim the Roman empire died with Diocletian or Severus, then your argument is nonsense.

>The patricians spoke Greek
when did that happen? besides that speaking greek was a posh thing to do of course

oh let me remind you too that russian nobility had a hard-on for french language and culture in 18th century, I guess this makes them french too

The patricians spoke Greek brought up because people like you have a hard on for the idea that "if you didn't speak latin you weren't Roman".

Also you neatly ignored all his other points.

Rome should have broken up into 3 successor states instead being forcefully reunified.

Would have been better than a total collapse of the West and the East getting raped repeatedly for a thousand years by Persians, Arabs, Bulgars, Franks and Turks.

fucccccckkk who got the gets

Any side that doesn't control the east is fucked, in the long run.

It would've been the same result.

What's next, you gonna say how Slavs are Romans too because they came around the time when Romans were still there?

Constantine and Justinian were fucking geniuses.

>Severus was a bad Emperor

hate this meme :/

Within decades after the capture of Constantinople by Mehmed II of the Ottoman Empire on 29 May 1453, some Eastern Orthodox people were nominating Moscow as the "Third Rome", or the "New Rome".[9] Stirrings of this sentiment began during the reign of Ivan III of Russia who had married Sophia Paleologue. Sophia was a niece of Constantine XI, the last Byzantine emperor.

Rome is an idea, some stupid historians gave the Byzantine Empire that name to differentiate it between the WRE.

Of course they have nothing to do with each other.

I'm not sure if you think either of them were Roman or are just commenting on their abilities but both Constantine and Justinian were Illyrian.

I didn't say he was bad. He was however a provincial of Punic descent.

I would also argue that his maxim of paying the military bigger and bigger bonuses to keep them in line was setting up a massive failure.