>lead armies over victory against imperialism >only took land that was beneficial towards Russia >increased life expectancy and eliminated illiteracy >expanded country to heavy industries >mourned by millions of workers by death
yeah the life expectancy after stalin was higher than during his time :^)
Evan Anderson
Because he "ruined socialism". Not totally sure what they mean by that.
Hunter Evans
>>increased life expectancy
Just goes to show that the World War 1, The Russian Revolution and Lenin's Purges were so brutal that not even Hitler's war and Stalin's purges combined could wreck that kind of havoc on Russia. He is pretty damn sexy though tbqh.
Easton Stewart
Because he merely exploited it as a way to turn Russia into an authoritarian hell on earth to secure power for himself. And it was Communism not Socialism.
Owen Jenkins
>lead armies over victory against imperialism >only took land that was beneficial towards Russia Lenin did this. The whole reason the USSR was a thing rather than Russia was because of Stalin
Owen Martin
Even as an anti-communist, I have to give him credit for fixing the steaming heap of dogshit of a country left by Stalin and Trotsky.
Nathaniel Cook
*Lenin and Trotsky
God damn
Ryan Davis
how can socialism prevent the rise of such people to power?
the main danger of a totalitarian regime, even a beneficial one, is that there is no civil way to prevent a malicious leader from rising to power.
from lenin to stalin, from chavez to maduro, from the fall of USSR into neo-USSR... totalitarian shitholes never change.
I still think Stalin was a total badass though. He purged the kikes, sent homosexuals and other degenerates into gulags, and deliberately starved dissenters. He did what had to be done to whip his shithole of a nation into shape.
Adam Morales
I want to know more about Stalin as a person. He seems so mysterious
Nolan Carter
>how can socialism prevent the rise of such people to power? By not forcing a Marxist economic system into society by force like Communists try to do but instead move towards it gradually and legally through democratically promoted social reforms.
Carter Cooper
Therefore achieving a fair and Marxist economic system in a democratic society* See: Social democracy
Xavier Robinson
Who's this retarded guy on His that thinks Stalin was a good at anything? Stalin killed people then Hitler did. The Germans should have given Stalin a medal for almost defeating the SU itself.
Ryan Kelly
>haha he was so badass he killed all of those innocent people xD i love linkin park!!
Hunter Clark
Actually one of my favourite communist personas. Because of his monastic upbringing he was actually very quiet and reserved, living a life more minimalist and fitting to socialism than any other leader.
Austin Cook
>Isn't that true about every communist leader? For the most part yes. And that's why a Marxist can't be achieved with the use of authoritarian regimes. Nobody should be trusted with that amount of power.
Ryan Thomas
only killed tens of millions of people and ruined half of europe.
Cooper Russell
Marxist society* ffs
Camden Perez
So what if i do?
Ryan Miller
The weak should fear the strong.
Nathaniel Anderson
This thread is cancer. Plz delete this garbage
Julian Flores
He transformed a country with an economy absolutely destroyed by retarded Leninist policies into one of the most industrialized countries in the world. Say what you will about his character or ethics, but don't deny he was an incredible organizer.
Jackson Kelly
>Why is he despised by pseudo-socialists again?
I think that it's him that would despise the new left
Daniel Evans
Glad to know that Stalin is being chewed by hairy Satan in ice cold ninth circle of hell.
Elijah Torres
Damn, Stalin was cute.
Ryder Bennett
>gypo >cute
Nathan Butler
This is a history board. If you want to do nothing but spout your personal biases, please go to /pol/. If you wouldn't say it to one of your professors, why would you post it on here?
Eli Peterson
Because a historical fact that hell does exist.
Jaxson Perez
Dem facial aesthetics though. 9/10 would succ
Blake Powell
>Stalin getting credit for a bunch of shit that would have happened anyways
Didn't take a rocket scientist to know Russia needed to industrialize and it probably would have gone better with someone who wasn't a paranoid maniac in charge.
James Ross
Imperial Russia was very well developed, its grain fed almost all of Europe. Following the civil war and a decade of Lenin, just about every factory was dysfunctional and productivity came to a halt. Following Stalinist reforms the economy made an incredible recovery and surpassed its former prime many times over. And this is only before WW2. If you argue that this was only natural and attribute these things to the People, fine, but by that logic you would have to also attribute the success seen during the reign of Augustus and Philip to the destined evolution of their nations.
Then again, what would a rocket scientist know about history?
Charles Sullivan
He's a retard don't mind it
Levi Scott
>muh ethics! Stalin killed more commies than Pinochet and Hitler combined, which makes him a hero.
Pol Pot gets similar praise.
Adam Reyes
>Democracy >Not using force
Pick one and only one
Xavier Rodriguez
How can any popular revolution prevent the rise of a dictator?
Usually you need multiple power blocks or a Cincinnatus.
This is a problem inherent with revolutions, not so much specifically socialist or communist ones. Take Napoleon for example.
Landon Green
He Genocides Ukrainian people, killed thousands of Poles and Russians and wasn't even a Slav. Really Hitler is an white angel compared to this steaming pile
Luke Mitchell
XD
Ryan Smith
Hitler destroyed his own country while Stalin turned his into a superpower. Please don't be so sensitive and try to look at things objectively.
Ryan Bell
I've always had a great deal of sympathy for Stalin. Psychologically speaking he's a fascinating figure.
Connor Reed
Hitler made Germany a super power. Hitler made Russians military break. Also Hitler was a better speaker and more intelligent.
David Perez
Hitler was literally a rothschild zionist kike plant who purged his own race of undesirables to prune their ranks and scare the rest into Israel. Look it up do your research.
Isaiah Hernandez
> x is that way pinko
Justin Green
We're talking about end results here. History books don't stop at 1942. Well, maybe yours do.
Furthermore, why did you bother bringing up their personal attributes when addressing their accomplishments?
Blake Martin
Hitler was unironically and publicly Zionist. He wanted Jews out, and the people without a nation to have their own nation to fuck up.
Brayden Cox
Hitler's grandmother was literally a maid in a Rothschild mansion who got knocked up out of wedlock.
Carter Jenkins
You do realize Stalin died at some point. Are you saying Hitler's succession plan was better than Stalin's?
Ian Morales
I think what I'm saying is pretty obvious. On Hitler's death, Germany was completely destroyed. On Stalin's, the Soviet Union was a superpower rivalling the United States. These results are the product of their lifelong efforts. Is it really so difficult for you to acknowledge this?
Alexander Fisher
Trotsky would've done all of that but better and with less casualties
Brandon Thompson
Trotsky had extremely low IQ and was incompetent to boot. For heaven's sake he couldn't even beat Poland. POLAND!
Aaron Cooper
Poland was a bunch of hussars
Jose Flores
>You do realize Stalin died at some point. You seem a bit defensive on this point. Could it be that you're Stalin?
Anthony Ross
topkek
Chase Howard
Even young trotski wasn't that bad looking.
Jacob Hernandez
That's not Stalin.
Robert Torres
He didn't have to. The objective was to take Ukraine, it was accomplished.
Xavier Perez
he looks like a 40 year old Jewish woman
Connor Morgan
He lost Western Poland
Bentley Perez
Who's that fuccboi
Cuz it aint Stalin
Eli Murphy
It was Stalin few years earlier user. Like a decade.
Nicholas Bailey
But user once told me that the guy n the OP was just some male model. Did he lie to me?
Caleb Phillips
gibe proofs
Xavier Scott
I'm pretty sure OPs photo was photoshopped to hell because stalin was pockmarked to hell at that age.
Lucas Clark
He's right.
Dylan Cox
>Skeletonmode Stalin
Jackson Sanchez
>only killed tens of millions of people and ruined half of europe.
this
He was insane. But hey, we're on Veeky Forums, so why I'm so surprised?