LOL, MCCARTHYISM AMIRITE GUYS?!!

>liberals are communists meme

Ever fucking time. Just take the cyanide pill, lad.

>Ever fucking time. Just take the cyanide pill, lad.

>America won the Cold War

kek

he literally tells his little daughter that people who share with the less fortunate are communists

*tips fedora*

>George Cuckney

"No."

>becoming the sole surviving superpower, and thus becoming world hegemon, isn't winning

forty keks

>economy collapsing and debt increasing
>quickly becoming a bigger welfare state than the USSR was

modern Russia's economy is dwarfed by Italy and they're barely held together by an authoritarian manlet, who in their right mind would consider that "winning"?

>economy contracting slightly due to interest rate hikes while remaining largely stable is 'collapsing'
>muh debt
>muh welfare state

t. no knowledge of macroeconomics

McCarthy was doing literally the same shit CSI and FBI were doing before he started to rave on about it, except now KGB knew what traits to avoid when looking for new agents.

>accused George Marshall of being a commie
>never actually produced his list of names
>lol he was totally right guys!

Why are Mccarthyfags so deluded?

The cold war wasnt Russia vs USSR, it was socialism vs liberalism and free capitalism vs planned economy.
I'd say each camp got one victory, and the score is 1:1.

On the geopolitical stage, NATO beat USSR decisively, and thus USA beat Russia.

>put "muh" in front of opponent's arguments
>act victorious

Ah, I see you went to the /pol/ school of debate.

No, I'm just rightfully dismissive of people who have no idea what the fuck they're talking about. There's nothing inherently bad about welfare capitalism or deficits/debts, and in the US neither of them have begun to cause problems. The debt might eventually become an issue, but currently it isn't really a cause for alarm. And the economy is nowhere near 'collapsing,' it's experiencing some minor growing pains as we ramp down the measures put in place to soften the recession. You didn't deserve a serious response, because your post was idiotic.

>Money claimed that media response to the exposé was due to right-wing media bias and "the antifeminist movement." He claimed his detractors believed "masculinity and femininity are built into the genes so women should get back to the mattress and the kitchen."

>implying you could explain a complex socioeconomic system to a 5 year old
>implying liberals actually want to share anything

>debt
>mattering

Is this the pedophile who tried raising a boy as a girl and it fucked with his brain so much he killed himself?

America may have one the geopolitical conflict, but it is definitely losing the ideological war.

He plays a empty-headed actor who had gay sex in exchange for his big break, who converts to communism until a Catholic detective literally slaps sense into him.

It doesn't matter what the movie is about, if it has George Cuckold I refuse to watch it.

>documents declassified prove McCarthy was right

Apparently there's some state law in Texas or some damn place that makes this required to teach in public schools.

Even though it's wrong.

There were documents declassified from the Soviet Union showing that there had been spies operating in the United States.

None of them were any of the people McCarthy was investigating. Furthermore, there was never any doubt there were Soviet spies operating in the U.S. That was never an issue.

Do you really expect Jewish filmmakers do depict communists as the bad guys?

"Hail, Caesar" actually makes fun of anti-communists by depicting the whole communist conspiracy as overblown and cartoonishly. It's message is basically: "See, this is what those dumb goyim actually believe that happened".

Why
youtube.com/watch?v=AOFwpLIBM8c

When Alger Hiss was accused of being a Soviet spy, liberals didn't believe because they saw him as just another typical liberal.

If they can't tell the difference, it's because they are really just the same shit.

...

Maybe George Marshall wasn't a card-carrying communist, but he cartainly sympathized with and represented communist interests in East Asia.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedric_Belfrage

>At the height of McCarthyism, Belfrage was summoned in 1953 to appear before the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC).
>In 1995, the decrypted VENONA intercepts—a project between the US and British intelligence services to decipher Soviet wires — were made public. United States intelligence has alleged that Unnamed Codename Number 9 (UNC/9) was Belfrage.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Karr

>In 1950, Senator Joseph McCarthy referred to Karr as Drew Pearson’s “KGB controller”.
>After the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1992, in the new atmosphere of openness, Soviet investigative journalist Albats published an article in Izvestia quoting documents from KGB archives that Karr was “a competent KGB source” who ‘‘submitted information to the KGB on the technical capabilities of the United States and other capitalist countries.”

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Coe

>Called before the HUAC (chaired by Congressman Karl Mundt), Coe denied under oath having ever been a member of the CPUSA.
>A recent investigation into the KGB archives claims that files show Coe to have been a Soviet agent.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauchlin_Currie

>the United States refused to renew his passport in 1954 due to the McCarthyism atmosphere in Washington, DC.
>He appears in the VENONA cables under the cover name 'PAGE', and in Soviet intelligence archives as 'VIM' and as a source for the Golos and Bentley spy networks.

>write an anti-war novel because the Soviet Union is allied with Nazi Germany and the Communist Party doesn't want the U.S. to join the war
>receive correspondence with other anti-war Americans, including right-wing isolationists from America First
>as soon as the Nazis invade the Soviet Union, withdrawn your own novel from publication and start agitating for U.S. entry in World War II
>denounce isolationists who corresponded with him to the FBI

This guy is a hero for liberals and Jews.

It tells you all you need to know about left-wing and Jewish morality.

>muh Yuri Bezmenov
>actually believing that the KGB single handedly subverted American culture

>anti-semite
>morality

pick only one

If you told Americans, even the
Birchers, in 1960 what "winning" U.S. would look like in 2016, they would desire surrender to the Soviet Union as the best choice than what "victory" looked like.

Specially considering how communist countries like Poland and Hungary actually managed to preserve their culture and traditions, unlike Western countries.

There's nothing immoral about hating kikes

I'm not anti-semite, I'm anti-communist. Since all Jews are communists, I end up disliking them, but not because they are Jews, but because they are communists.

>being anti-semitic automatically makes you immoral

>Specially considering how communist countries like Poland and Hungary actually managed to preserve their culture and traditions, unlike Western countries.

That's the fucking point. Communist infiltration didn't ruin America; Capitalism did.

Explain how East Asian countries are able to keep their traditional cultures intact even though they are hyper-capitalist.

They are facing the same problems: population decline, "herbivores", social alienation etc.

>keep their traditional cultures intact

Like who, North Korea? lol.

>About a month after Obama leaves office I expect him to say he actually was born in Kenya but he felt the law was discriminatory so it was his duty to disobey it.

- He was born in US
- Even he wasn't, he wouldn't say it. There's prison for this.

----
Anyway, the law is stupid. There are tons of people born in US that lived less than a year in US then leaved (due to another stupid law, they are US citizens). So, those "citizens" [many don't even speak english] aren't allowed to become a US President?

No, they are not. You need to have lived in the United States for 14 years to be president. Whether that means 14 consecutive years or 14 years total is up for debate but has thus far not been an issue that has come up.

Poland and Hungary did, but USSR didn't.

"All Jews are communists" citation?

It's this guy again.

>leaved

opinion discarded

pls graduate from high school before you post here

>unironically being a birther
good job completely invalidating your opinion OP

This will be ignored, as the evidence always is in Veeky Forums threads.

>never actually produced his list of names

That what happens when it's a list of names that was produced by the efforts of a top secret investigation program that he was sworn to secrecy about, acting in his role as the senator responsible for its oversight.

Showing the contents of the list would be revealing classified information that he took an oath to not do, and it would ruin the years of work by the people who worked on the project.

t.Sheltered millennial who easnt even alive during the Cold War

If you cast a net wide enough and with holes small enough you can catch every single shrimp in a body of water.

It's the issue of you catching and high chance killing every other marine life asides from shrimp that is the issue.

Also they would've caught that list of people either way.

Are you a neo chartalist? MMT?

Thanks for the movie rec, guys. Torrenting now.

>See, this is what those dumb goyim actually believe that happened
It is what happened. Hell, everyone knew it was how it happened, even in the 50's. Look at Rock Hudson for fucks sake.

you're in the Veeky Forums thread, so go read about Ancient Roman History from around 200BC up to 400AD
Then tell me that debt doesnt matter

You think that is an analogous comparison?

a continuous demographic decline which contributed to a debt deflationary spiral, that caused several waves of political strife that caused even more debt in welfare programs and a growing military complex (in part due to said political strife).
This later caused continuous currency devaluations that caused a legitimate collapse of roman economy
yeah, it is a currently analogous comparison. By the looks of it, it'll keep being an analogous comparison for the next couple of centuries

roman-empire.net/articles/article-018.html
socialdemocracy21stcentury.blogspot.pt/2011/06/debt-deflationary-crisis-in-late-roman.html

>"They were Communists, so what? There's nothing wrong with that."
But that's right.

>About a month after Obama leaves office I expect him to say he actually was born in Kenya but he felt the law was discriminatory so it was his duty to disobey it.
That would be great too.

>But that's right.
>being tolerant of fifth columnists
You need a helicopter ride from mi General.

>Why
Autism.

>If you cast a net wide enough
Except he wasn't just casting a net, maybe the HUAC did, which he had no control over, but he was referring to a list put together by a group of trained agents in both the British and American governments, who were investigating communist & Soviet subversion of the US and Western nations.

>Also they would've caught that list of people either way.
Not when he started looking into high ranking US officials, the FBI and other federal security agencies. That's when he started getting fed false information from them in an effort to discredit him, and journalist who are now known to be part of the FBI's COINTELPRO program suddenly started slandering him in the media. He was going against people in the government who had more clout than him and his hands were tied by not being able to reveal the evidence to the public. There was no way he could win, when his own government was essentially working against him and be had no way to convince people below his security level because he would then be charged with revealing classified information.

He had evidence that his own government was potentially full of foreign agents and those loyal to foreign governments, who were working towards his country's downfall, and there was nothing he could legally do about it. That has to severely weigh on someone in his position.

Also, people forget or are not taught the fact that the 50's and 60's red scare was not the first. Just thirty years earlier, there was the first red scare in the US, when socialists and anarchists from Europe were doing shit like forming political gangs to fuck with people, gunning down policeman and bombing Wall Street.

The "red scare" and "McCarthyism" didn't just spring up out of thin air to prosecute poor, innocent communists, they were responses to threats that had been an issue since right after WW1.

McCarthy was pretty much forced into revealing the list, he didn't want to reveal his data until he could prove it but the mongs in charge demandes he did and that caused him being villainised

Isn't like 50% of Russia's economy with the Russian Mobsters?

Pinochet was himself a fifth columnist albeit for a different regime you dumbfuck.

Being a communist =! Being a fifth columnist

Marxists ala Adorno, Horkheimer etc. were as critical of USSR as they were of US and 3rd Reich.

It's also what happens when the entire story is bullshit that he made up so that he could climb the political ladder. We're talking about Joe McCarthy here, who lied about being a combat vet when he really spent the war in a cushy desk job so that he could get elected in the first place.

>I know a list of communists in every part of our government
>okay, prove it or STFU
>o-o-kay
>when the list is revealed, it's obvious he didn't have a shred of real evidence
>right wing polemics still white knight you because they lack a sense of shame like people have

The really good mobsters became billionaire oligarchs.

Those guys have been the real power since the Yeltsin era.

Bolshevik Communism, Marx was ancestrally Jewish. It's not even a joke at this point.

>thinking left wingers are commies

So I should that all right wingers are facists.

dont be stupid.

The times are a changing.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=5MGhgGDhnWg

>so butthurt about McCarthyism, they make kids study The Crucible to this day

>About a month after Obama leaves office I expect him to say he actually was born in Kenya but he felt the law was discriminatory so it was his duty to disobey it.

1) why would Obama ever want to publicly prove Trump right
2) How are you seriously a birther, pick a valid criticism of the Obama admin., there's plenty available.
3) pic related

It was Hillary who came up with the Kenyan Obama theory, Trump just jumped on the bandwagon. Weird how people forget that.

You BTFO of him so hard he stopped replying altogether, good job.

not a hillarite fan, but:

>politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/23/donald-trump/hillary-clinton-obama-birther-fact-check/
>It’s an interesting bit of history that the birther movement appears to have begun with Democrats supporting Clinton and opposing Obama. But Trump, and others who have made this claim, neglect to mention that there is no direct tie to Clinton or her 2008 campaign.

>The story appears to have started with supporters of Clinton, an important distinction.

>Trump goes on to completely distort the chain of events by claiming Clinton "was all in" on the birther movement. Most of the talk started after Clinton suspended her presidential campaign. And the only thing she officially has ever done is deny any accusation of starting a whisper campaign.

>We rate this claim False.

Not her "supporters", but her staffers. Look it up.

>politifact
lmao

>weird how people forget something that isn't true

Going by this standard, basically no political attack could ever be linked to any politician. No successful politician would ever let themselves be implicated directly in that kind of attack, but you can be your ass they're involved unofficially or hired someone they know would make that attack.

> source
> lmao

I hate when people play this rhetorical game of "No matter what ya heard its shite lol"

Maybe you have a bone to pick with politifact because I'm not the first person to use it to rebuke your bullshit.

>4 people out of the hundreds that were victimized by McCarthy

No it is a joke, you're retarded.

>Communist Russia was never the problem
So, the Jews then. Just say what you mean man

>There's nothing inherently bad about welfare capitalism
Except for the permanent underclass of welfare niggers those policies created. Are you blind as well as retarded

>The debt might eventually become an issue, but currently it isn't really a cause for alarm
Do yourself a favor and don't ever get a credit card or take out a loan of any kind.

>what is cause and effect
>what is linear progression of time
>what is continuity of existence
>what is TANSTAAFL

3000 years of the exact same complaints about jews. Lying treacherous neopotistic ethnocentric disgusting people who won't integrate, will stab you in the kidney if they think they can get away with it and hate and fear the very people who welcomed them with open arms.

3000 years. Exactly the same attitudes towards them. Consistent as clockwork.

No, no, no. It's completely irrational. Jews are good people. They're the best of us.

Goy.

You talk like a fag. Grammar Nazis have had zero influence on history or society and you are less than irrelevant.

Opinion discarded.

Yes, he was in a desk job as intelligence officer attached to an air unit in the Pacific, but he also flew twelve combat missions as a tail gunner, so he's not lying when he said he saw combat.

Not disagreeing with you but that lesson is more Stark when illuminating the perils of inflation and debasing the currency.

>Politifact
Are you fucking serious that source is shit.

Think about this, if I go to 50 different parties made up of entirely different people and at all 50, people cite the same reason for not liking me, far before 50, most people would think, "Maybe it's not all those people at the parties who are the assholes, but it's you".