Educate me about the Republic of Novgorod

Educate me about the Republic of Novgorod.
Was it really democratic?

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>Was it really democratic?

Yes.

Not democratic in the modern sense, but way more than medieval monarchies.

Also it was unreally literate for its time, the estimate is around 70 to 80%, including peasants. A rate like that was unheard of outside of monasteries during the middle ages.

interesting if true
shame it didn't survive as a political entity

Just read a bit on wikipedia about it and if it's true, that there were many rich merchants and good education, why didn't the/a renaissance take place there?

it was too early for that
also, they were pretty small

Because renaissance was an Italian meme and not something that was inevitable by the virtue of having education and wealth. Stop thinking like a Marxist.

>Renaissance
>a thing
>more than simply a few extra paintings and sculptures
Historians just needed a name for the increase in art, because historians really care about art since that is the only thing really left for them to actually see. That doesn't necessarily mean the renaissance was significant to the rest of history.

Sure, but why hasn't there been a significant increase of artwork then?
It was right in the time of early italian renaissance or the proto-renaissance

Novgorod was actually Finnish
They used the Finnish language

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birch_bark_letter_no._292

That is John Green level bullshit

Nope, Novgorod was multikulti if anything, there were both Slavic and Finnic peoples living in there. Most of the Novgorodian manuscripts are in Old Novgorodian language.

>implying user is wrong
Any era that produces more art is of big interest to historians. That doesn't necessarily mean it was some pivotal point in human history.

I think it actually did IIRC

Novgorod's zenith is seen as something of a golden age for medieval Russian culture

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Byzantine empire was also probably 50% or more literate.

i love how desperate Finnish nationalists are to make their people seem to be historically relevant

Which period? At its height 70% of the empire was literally middle eastern goatfuckistan.

Can you honestly say you wouldn't do the same in that position?

Not to that degree no. There are WEWUZ people everywhere nowadays but this is beyond dumb

And a good chunk of the rest was Balkanic Goatfuckislavia. And some hermits here and there

And then the Moscow subhumans came and ruined everything for Eastern Europe for the next several hundred years.

Meanwhile in moscow...

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well, they did unite russia
thats something

awful*

That's what you meant right?

i mean, its awful that the city was destroyed, but without conquering novgorod, russia would have probably never become relevant

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Novgorod
Too bad polacks didn't save it

>russia would have probably never become relevant
And that is... bad?

Russia is a shit stain on the world map that should not be there.

Might have something to do with Byzantines seeking refuge in Italy, not in the far north of Russia.

it was an okay place to be but it had to die soon as i decided to play as Muscovy

Better to be irrelevant than to be a shithole.

>Implying new ideas and increased learnimg didn't go along with the art
Wew

of course
after all, muscovites united all russian people under one flag

>not playing Novgorod
>not conquering Muscovy and forming Russia
>not RPing as a heavily religious Russian Republic under the influence of the Orthodox Church
wew lad

>muscovy
>Principality of rus

>play as novgorod
>rivaled by muscovy, denmark and lithuania
>poland chooses not to PU Lithuania
>get declared war by muscovy 5 months into the game
wew, that went well

>Kievan Rus'
>The state full of vikings, Turkish Jews, Ukrainians, and Belorussians
>Unitinf Russians

Maybe Konstantinopolis. Everyone that reads a bit of history knows that rest of the realm was poor as fuck, especially Anatolia. Also considering the lack of investment and being poor, it doesn't come as a surprise them welcoming Turks with open arms.

You're retarded.

We know you are, but what does that make him?

I always keep Tver as a pet.
It's so cute

>not playing with the God-tier MEIOU mod

shyghivici dighiv