“In the middle of April [1917] the Germans took a sombre decision. Ludendorff refers to it with bated breath. Full allowance must be made for the desperate stakes to which the German war leaders were already committed. They were in the mood which had opened unlimited submarine warfare with the certainty of bringing the United States into the war against them. Upon the Western front they had from the beginning used the most terrible means of offense at their disposal. They had employed poison gas on the largest scale and had invented the ‘Flammenwerfer.’ Nevertheless it was with a sense of awe that they turned upon Russia the most grisly of all weapons. They transported Lenin in a sealed truck like a plague bacillus from Switzerland into Russia.”
Winston S. Churchill The World Crisis, Volume five.
This isn't news. And a country financing political dissidents in an area they want to destabilize, regardless of whether they agree with those dissidents, is nothing uncommon. I expect Germany didn't anticipate Lenin being so successful.
I'd say it's comparable to the middle east right now. You support some fringe radical groups for geopolitical reasons then it gets out of hand and they hate your guts.
Evan Cruz
It was a very disloyal, bitch move though. The Kaiser and the emperor of Russia were cousins who spoke via telegraph frequently!
Brayden Brown
The tsar had already resigned by the time of Lenins return to Russia though.
Eli King
Yeah, it's pretty common knowledge. I thinks it's funny how it led to a rise of socialism among the German rear-echelon though.
Angel Cook
People on here meme about the Anglo menace when '''''''''Aryan''''''''' Germany is responsible for both the Nazis AND the USSR, they LITERALLY doomed western civilization, single-handedly. Fucking barbarian cunts causing the fall of rome AGAIN
Juan Sanders
But user, the Nazis tried to save western civilization. The Anglos are the ones who've been fighting against a powerful Europe. They fought Napoleon, they fought Kaiser Willy, and they fought Hitler. If the Brits hadn't been such butthurt children, Europe would have ascended to it's rightful place hundreds of years ago.
Connor Long
>powerful empire >dumbasses who spent their energy trying to enslave Europe instead of enslaving brown people
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
Lucas Campbell
Anglos aren't against a powerful europe, just a united one. Europe has never required unity to be great. The current EU attempt at unity is also failing fucking miserably.
Julian Rivera
Your right, our current situation is much better. We're so much freer under Albion's generous gaze. I'm so glad I get to live in a world where there's going to be more Muslims than Europeans in Europe in 100 years. This is the perfect future. Thank you for the open borders and free trade.
Because the current EU attempt is inherently internationalist. Do you think Napoleon wanted to import millions of Muslims into Europe? Would Kaiser Wilhelm or Hitler have done that? A divided Europe is doomed to tear itself apart, it's exactly why we got where we are in the first place.
National competition is what made Europe great, I'll agree with you on that. But technology has progressed beyond national competition. We live in a time where you can fly between any major city on Earth in less than a day. The time of competition between nations is over, the time of competition between civilizations has begun. If the West is going to compete on a world scale with everyone else, it has to be united.
Brandon Sanders
The even funnier thing is that the germans blame the attempted communist revolution towards the end of ww1 on "da joos" instead of on themselves when they had fomented a bolshevik revolution in a neighbouring country only a year or so before
Landon Diaz
>Your right, our current situation is much better. We're so much freer under Albion's generous gaze. I'm so glad I get to live in a world where there's going to be more Muslims than Europeans in Europe in 100 years. This is the perfect future. Thank you for the open borders and free trade. Merkels fault
>technology has progressed beyond national competition. We live in a time where you can fly between any major city on Earth in less than a day. The time of competition between nations is over, the time of competition between civilizations has begun
You only say this as a part of your attempt to shift blame onto britain and away from the germans
You have absolutely no evidence for this assertion other than wishful thinking
Boy i sure get tired of hearing butthurt about the uk sometimes
Charles Turner
>Merkels fault Are you fucking dense? Do you think there would be a Merkel if Napoleon won? If Wilhelm won? If Hitler won? Britain has led Europe for the past two centuries, crushing anyone else who attempted to rival them, and this is where they led us.
> You only say this as a part of your attempt to shift blame onto britain and away from the germans Did Germany crush Napoleon?
> You have absolutely no evidence for this assertion other than wishful thinking I need evidence to prove that Europe is stronger together than apart? That's like saying you need proof that 2 is a larger number than 1. A united Europe's economy would be the largest in the world and would have a consumer market and military that rivals the US.
Jason Hall
>implying Europe's disunity isn't the main source of its strength >implying competition doesn't create strong people and encourage innovation >implying this isn't one of the primary reasons why the 19th century saw European steamships patrolling the Yangtze and not Chinese steamships patrolling the Danube
Anthony Russell
Do you think a country like Belgium, or Portugal, or Netherlands is going to have a realistic chance fighting India, or China, or Pakistan in 10 years? In 20 years? In 50 years? Pic related, this isn't the 19th century anymore, it doesn't take a month to get to China nowadays. We live in a world where some redneck in Kentucky can use an Xbox controller to kill some Haji in Afghanistan with a drone, and be back home in time for dinner. The competition is not regional anymore, the competition is global. If you're not thinking on a global scale, you're going to get left in the dust.
Lucas Thomas
Just like Persia BTFO Greece, am I right?
Asher Murphy
It's exactly people like you that are shit-scared of the US and China that drive the disgusting europeanism of today.
Josiah Hughes
This "Germans destroy Europe" meme is getting old. Anglos and Americans were funding the USSR were funding the Bolsheviks and USSR during the whole WW2, they would've starved to death against the Germans if not.
Fall of Rome? You dumb cunt, no respectable historian believes Rome was "destroyed" by barbarians, it's a Renaissance art fetish. And "Germanics" then are the ancestors of pretty much everyone in Europe now. Italians are primarily descended from the barbarians who migrated to Rome.
Nathaniel Carter
Was there global competition in Ancient Greece? Could you fly a jet from Athens to Beijing in a few hours in the 5th century BC?
So you think Portugal or Spain or Netherlands would be able to single-handedly hold their own in a fight against China in a decade or so? Or do you just not care about your fellow Europeans?
Leo Nguyen
This is part of the German strategy of "revolutionary infestation". Germany didn't just support communists, they also supported nationalists in Ireland, Poland, Ukraine and Finland, and they supported Islamic radicals in the Middle East. Lenin was just their most successful and most lasting coup - which would later bite them in the ass though.
You should look up characters like:
Max von Oppenheim Ernst Jaeckh Colmar von der Goltz Alexander Parvus Hans von Beseler
John Gutierrez
These posts OP.
>What do we make of that? Clearly that Lenin was a crypto monarchist whose intention was to destroy the Russian Emprie as much as he could to ensure the success of the Second Reich.
Seriously though we should view it as a common tool of real politik and something that has been going on since literally the Roman Empire.
