What can Veeky Forums tell me about the Papal States?

Why didn't they expand more?

You do realize that was a false document, right?

Oh they tried but in the end just kind of couldn't expand anymore because of the political situation

The other Italian states plus the HRE, France and later Spain

The last thing you want to give the person with the highest religious authority is political power

And what was Byzantium suppose to do?

Bitch a bit and be miserable about their lost empire

So do nothing? What a pathetic state, be glad there was no blood over the land.

Mexico?

No you idiot, Rome. He died in Rome.

He dropped dead at the hospital's door, visiting his hospitalised godchild
RIP, still don't know what really happened there

pretty sure Peter founded Mexico city after he saw an eagle with Jesus's face land on a rock

No that was just a mexican.

Yeah jesus finally chased down the snake of Eden and bit his head off

Peter isn't mexican you idiot, he was Venetian

We aren't talking about Peter though.

What's a Cephas?

That's Peter, Peter died in Rome. What the hell is going on in this thread?

Memes

why are Romaboos trying to steal from Mexican history?

>Mexican
>History

>Peter died in Rome.
Pretty sure he died in Russia...

>history
>his-story
>neglecting her-story
sexist

Russia wasn't a state you fag.
>giving a shit about her-story

yeah, a province of Mexico

No gf for you

>wanting a gf
>not having a 2d waifu

Romaboos have been butthurt ever since we destroyed them at the Alamo

What?

...

>knowing nothing about the Punic Wars

Proof?
Rome won the Punic wars, friend.

WE

Rome only won because they stole Santa Anna's leg

But Rome isn't America though, it's in Italy.

neither is mexico, retard

US has a Syracuse, a Paris, a "New" York pretty sure they have a Rome somewhere

There's an Athens near me actually. Americans are terrible at naming

But what the fuck?
>two Romes' in America

not my fault you are geographically illiterate

Yeah, it's actually kinda neat, this city was called this way because it too was settled on seven hills
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome,_Georgia

I know Mexico is in Mexico, why the fuck are we even having this discussion? Peter died in Rome, and ergo that is the spot for the Vicar of Christ. Ergo with that the Vicar of Christ sits there and can do whatever.

But what the fuck does that have to do with Mexico pal?

what? the Vicar of Christ is in Port du Prince

Nothing, because we aren't talking about Mexico user, please stop, you're hurting my poor heart.
Really?

>search mexico
>11 results
We clearly were, stop trying to twist this around

Yep, Peter died of syphilis in Port du Prince

But the thread is about the Papal state!
No, he died from being martyred in Rome.

Mexico is the Papal State!

Whatever, I'm going to sleep

No it isn't!

sweet dreams, sweet Prince du Port

Are you literally retarded? take a class in basic world history for christ's sake

Are you? Am I being rused? All I wanted to do was have a nice conversation about why Byzantium sucks.

No fuck off back to Mexico

But I'm white.

Sure José

>Am I being rused?
Ironic given that you are clearly pretending to be retarded.

>said the Mexican trying to bring up Mexico in a thread that's not about Mexico

no one in the modern era is mexican, retard. Mexico hasn't been a state for 400 years

I. Goddammit I just wanted to talk about the Papal States.

but we are. Mexico is the Papal State. what don't you understand?

Then stop bringing up Mexico

Proof?
Stop bullying me.

just look at OP's pic. that's Mexico

No it's not.

Proof?

Mexico is thicker.

Mexico is thicker than the Papal State? But Mexico is the Papal State

Proof

I already told you. Look at OP's pic. it clearly says "Papal States". that's Mexico

But that land connected to it is right next to Swiss alps.

Yeah. Mexico is close to the Alps

No it's not!

Proof?

Mexico is in North America, right under the US.

Forged wasn't taken to mean false in medieval understanding. Many legitimate documents were forged, having basis in truth. It was the subject that mattered, not the credibility of the "author". According to the legend, Constantine had contracted a severe case of leprosy that was miraculously cured by the intercession of Pope Sylvester I and decided to reward the pontiff with half the empire.

Lies. the Holy Spirit allows me to decern between truth and lies. everything you post reeks of demonic influences

Stop bullying me

>legitimizing a legend by forging a document that proves it
yeah that's still lying

Okay then wise ass, what's the "Byzantine" empire gonna do about it?

nothing. I don't give a shit about your doctrinal disputes. I just can't believe you tried so hard to justify the forging of a document. is this the same logic you apply to the Pseudo-Pauline epistles? does it not matter that Paul didn't write them?

If you don't care, why bitch about it? What's done is done and you should wash your hands from the situation.

Who gives a fuck about the papalcy.
What a bunch of fucking faggots.

Touching the kids! Touching the kids!!!
Lol you fucking catholic scum suckers.
90% of all child rape cases since 1948 have been by the catholic clergy you sick fucks.

Sure is plebbit in here

>protestant namefaggery

I'm interested in church history, not in who is "correct". I'm bitching about it because you actually tried to justify someone forging a document just because the content of it came from a legend. I mean my god, I am just amazed the lengths you went to to defend such a thing

If the legend were true or not, who knows? The forger believed it, and the donation was accepted. It may seem deceptive in the modern age, but forgeries were not always so scandalous.

>fafa
faggot faggot?

Wtf is happening and why have I followed the conversation this far? Are you mentally deficient sir?

>It may seem deceptive in the modern age
but it literally was deceptive. the forger probably did believe it but that isn't what matters. the document was forged to convince others that this was true and to delegitimize the Orthodox Church. He was trying to make his case stronger than it actually was. that is deception. just because I think someone is a murderer doesn't mean I should plant a bloodied knife on them