The Greeks, long since united under Rome, fought for self governance from the Turks.
Why did the Italians, long since united by the Romans, and more importantly the Romans/Latins not fight for reestablishing the Roman identity? Why not Italy as a whole?
Was Rome really just a "pope" city?
Jaxon Nelson
Maybe because Italy did not become completely irrelevant after the fall of Rome and had more to it than muh heritage.
Dominic Cruz
Well, Italy was part of the HRE
Ryan Morris
The greeks had a monolithic and alien entity ruling over them, the italians ruled themselves, or at worst were part of HRE
Lincoln Hill
Only like half of it
Liam Miller
> Italy did not become completely irrelevant
You mean 3 cities and a guy did not become completely irrelevant. Venice, Milan, Genoa, and the Pope. Now guess which of those 3 border actually important kingdoms.
Colton Davis
Because Italy was set up in a way to survive the fall of Rome. It was one of the best developed lands in Europe. By that I mean they had more towns than the rest of the old Empire did, and their towns most importantly had churches and walls. I'd argue the walls being the most important part.
From having so many towns with walls that could be governed by their mayors or their local bishops, each town grew it's own little identity over the years. Barbarian kings came and went in the Italian penninsula and so the Roman identity faded.
Anyway that's the basis for it. The Roman identity for the common people, if you wanted to argue that they felt one, was soon replaced with a Tuscan identity, a Napoletian identity, etc.
Jaxson Moore
Gothic wars killed off the Roman identity pretty badly, and the Vatican cancer in the middle of Italy prevented it from unifying earlier.
Dylan Barnes
It's all the Popes fault. For millennia he did all he could to prevent a united Italy and now he's trying to destroy not just the Italian nation but all of Europe. Catholicism not even once. It's the destroyer of nations.
Jayden Thompson
Please shut the fuck up and stop spouting shit you clearly know nothing about
Jordan Jackson
>3 cities Implying that having three important cities wasn't a huge deal in the Middle Ages
Joshua Butler
"Roman" was not an ethnicity.
Alexander Sullivan
Also, the modern Greek language at least reasonably resembles the language of Ancient Greece, whereas modern Italian is quite different from Classical Latin.
Mason Ward
Turks and greeks aren't that different matey
Lincoln Johnson
>please stop saying fact that hurt my feelings
It's going to be alright, your mother will soon let you suck on her saggy tit to make you feel better, user.
Asher Cook
I'm actually from Rome and people here are proud of their past
Jeremiah Torres
Carry on, glorious Roman.
Wyatt Peterson
>Gaius Julius Caesar >Not the 1st emperor
wtf,,,
Ian Butler
He was Dictator for Life, Not Emperor
He functioned as an Emperor except for in name
Anthony Smith
M E M E S
Jace Murphy
>no woman emperor TRIGGERED
Jayden Phillips
we don't know how many of them identified as a woman though
Anthony Russell
hadrien, anyone?
Jack White
as an italian, i can confrim this
also >Florence (Rinascimento >Naples (Regno delle Due Sicilie) >Palermo (Federico II)