So....what the fuck happened in Yugoslavia?

So....what the fuck happened in Yugoslavia?

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They were never fully integrated and relied on the popularity and will of a strongman to hold the disparate states together.

Serb chimpout.

>Slavs
The same thing that always happen

Tito, correct?

TL;DR

>group of different slavic peoples gets cobbled together by a charismatic dictator
>resulting country plays the US and USSR off of each other and gets the big bucks
>charismatic dictator dies and Cold War ends
>most of the slavic people that joined up with the country want to leave
>Serbs want Yugoslavia to stay as is because they dominate the government, and because they're afraid of what will happen to ethnic Serb minorities once the other ethnicities get their own countries
>Serbs attempt to prevent Slovenia from becoming independent by force
>the war lasts ten days, because there are no ethnic Serbs in Slovenia, so the Serbs barely care
>Serbs attempt to prevent Croatia from becoming independent
>brutal war, Vukovar gets burned to the ground
>Bosnia tries to become independent
>Bosnian Serbs (totally not related to Serbia, honest guys) begin killing a shitload of Muslims, Croatia also intervenes in the country
>after the UN declares "safe zones" the Serbs storm attack them, storm two of them, and at the safe zone in Srebrenica, kill all of the adult male refugees, about 8,000 in total
>NATO tries a no fly zone
>Serbs shoot down NATO jets
>NATO bombs the shit out of the Bosnian Serbs and force a peace deal
>insurgency in Kosovo heats up
>Kosovo has the most ethnic Serbs and is considered part of Serbia proper
>tens of thousands of Kosovars flee their homes, and there are massacres by the Serbian military and police
>Clinton loses patience, as this shit has been going on for 8 years now
>NATO bombs Serbia proper until they withdraw from Kosovo
>Serbia eternally salty over losing a large amount of clay and getting bombed by NATO
>Russia salty because Serbia is traditionally a Russian client state (Russia went to war for Serbia in WW1) and NATO bombed them anyway

Lowest iq in Europe and hyperinflation gee I wonder

Yugoslavia was kept afloat by Tito's political savvy, for most of his life he managed to play both east and west leveraging his important location in world war 2 and the Cold War to keep his country relavent. His persona and harsh hand when responding to ethnic violence kept the nation at peace. When Tito died, the party tried to evoke his image and continue as he had, but either they couldn't maintain the same pressure on the opposing ethnic groups or the conjured image of Tito didn't have enough authority among the people.

"After Tito? Tito."
The party motto after his death.

Who is that man.
Why does he hold the baaby tiger such.

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You got your answer in the previous thread already:

I'll start at the beginning, which is end of WW1. The Serbs were always the majority in Yugoslavia, and in the 'Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes' the Serb king split up country in such a way, that the Serbs were also the majority in almost every province (pic related). This caused considerable anger in all the other ethnicities, and most of all the Croats, who in return became Nazi collaborators and committed horrible war crimes against Serbian civilians (Jasenovac concentration camp).

The communists inherited Yugoslavia after WW2, and they knew exactly what was the problem and at all cost wanted to avoid repeating it. So they decided to balance the power between all ethnicities, such that no single ethnicity could pass laws that would harm another. Most importantly this meant leaving the supreme executive power in the hands of a council of 6, the communist party chairman of each member state - and requiring a simple majority to declare war, change the constitution, pass laws, etc. Montenegro, Serbia, and Macedonia would always give the "pro-Serbian/Orthodox" vote, while the other 3, Bosnia, Croatia and Slovenia could counter it. If the parties couldn't find a compromise over ethnic issues, they would always end up in a stalemate. To seal the deal, the member states were forbidden to secede by the constitution, ruling out any change in the supreme council and making the civil war of 91-95 impossible (!). And to make doubly sure, they even declared Croatia and Bosnia as multi-ethnic in their respective constitutions, forcing any constitutional changes to be approved by every ethnicity in the respective state.

So Croatia and Bosnia were twice bound by law, Serbia was bound by the fact that they had large minorities in other constituent states, and Montenegro, Slovenia and Macedonia were also bound by the constitution. The communist feared a break up the most, and they made it impossible.

Now, enter the mid to late 80s, where communism was starting to fall apart and the economy declined. After the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989, many people wanted away from communism, even many former communists themselves. For the minorities this meant either seceding, or fighting the hardliners in Belgrade - of course the former option was more convenient. Slovenia especially wanted to secede, since they were the most economically developed republic.

Milosevic came to power as the chairman of the Serbian communist party, and he realized what a secession of Slovenia would mean in the supreme council - a 3 to 2 "pro-Serbian/Orthodox" majority on every vote. Since Serbia never had any claim on Slovenia, he could let them go all the same. So Milosevic (most probably) incited Kucan to start the separatist in Slovenia. When the vote came around in the supreme council to mobilize the Yugoslav People's Army (at that time the 4th largest in Europe) to crush the revolt, the Bosnians and Croatians voted against, the Montenegrins and Macedonians for, and everybody waited for Milosevic (Serbia) to seal the deal. However, Milosevic voted against, and the army was powerless.

Since the Slovenian separatists were uncontested and were besieging Yugoslav border troops and recruits in their barracks, Yugoslavia had no other option but to (unconstitutionally) accept the Slovenian independence. At the cost of the lives of few recruits, Milosevic had won a great victory for the Serbs, who now de-facto ruled the council. And since he was the Serbian chairman, he was the de-facto new dictator of Yugoslavia. Croatia and Bosnia couldn't possibly leave, since unlike Slovenia, they were bound by their own constitutions and would have to convince the Serbian minority in their country to secede - which would never have happened.

Of course, many Croats and Bosnians were having none of it. And this is where the civil war begins.

BBC Documentary, The Death of Yugoslavia:

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forced multiculturalism was tried
many slavs died

what a bunch of bulshit this whole thread is, like watching some cnn propaganda crap.

neither tito created yugoslavia, nor serbs created a chimpout. Sloveniand and Croats declared independence and said, well Serbs that live in our countries can fuck off. It was sponsored separatism, war and revolutions, by exactly same people, and in exactly the same way seen in so many countries afterward.

Really, if you think CNN is propaganda against anything except for Republicans, you've lost.

Burgers do not give a fuck about literally anything until somebody forces us to give a fuck.

Woe to those who break our blissful slumber.

You forgot the massive foreign debt and inflation.

It was a paramilitary group called Arkan's Tigers.

The council of six only came into effect from the 1980 onwards when Tito died.
Member states were allowed to secede when the 1974 constitution was declared.

>Member states were allowed to secede when the 1974 constitution was declared.

Nope.

>Previous constitutions had granted the republics the constitutional right right to self-determination, including a right to secede. In 1974 Constitution, state that these rights belong to the "nations of Yugoslavia." At the same time, constitution includes a number of provisions that may deny a right to secede. Article 5 requires the consent of all republics and provinces before the borders of Yugoslavia can be altered. Article 283 gives the Yugoslav Assembly the power to determine alterations in the state's boundaries. It was not clearly defined whether it was possible unilateral secession or only if the federal government and all of the republics and provinces agree to it.[6][7]

poor tiger :(

he was later given back to the zoo unharmed where he lived a happy and carefree life :)

Something which can't be said for half the people in OP's pic.

Been on a Serbian military music binge for days now thank to Veeky Forums

Why are the Balkans so violent? I thought white folks were supposed to be peaceful.

>Yugos
>White

Because revenge. Someone's ancestors killed someone elses ancestors and they've been going back and forth for hundreds of years.

Literally nothing happened

> white folks were supposed to be peaceful

This is some anglocentric horseshit.

m8... In the last century died 100 milions of ours men to get some soil in a continent where bananas grew

>serbs got raped in both world wars but end up on the winning side at the end of the wars
>they weren't occupied by the soviets so they got to play as non-alligned country during the cold war
>serbs got too cocky and actually believed their propaganda they're masters of something
>they got raped again

Every time there's a war Polish and Serbs get massacred by invading forces and collaborationeers...
We feel u bro

It was a serbian country, I doubt they would be chimping out against themselves.

>I thought white folks were supposed to be peaceful.

t.sheltered white retard

Because they were genocidal murderers and they completely deserved to die. Arkan first and foremost. You cant slaughter civilians willy nilly and expect no consequences.

not true

shut up pussy

You've clearly never met a serb.

>triggered Vlah detected
Eat buranija brate. Its good for you.

> I thought white folks were supposed to be peaceful
Really, you're just going to post this bait, on a history image board of all places? Well it's bretty good I give the b8 a 8 don't h8 m8.

>Yugoslavia
>Serbian country
Are you retarded? Serbs held most political and military positions, but in no way was Yugoslavia 'a serbian country'. You're either talking straight from your colon or pulling a joke on a rather serious Mongolian collage board.

>shooting down NATO jets
Thats just fucking stupid

>white folks
>peaceful

>I thought white folks were supposed to be peaceful.
lol

Y. I think its based AF

It wasn't serbian, but they wanted it to be, which is why they chimped out.

>serbs got raped in both world wars but end up on the winning side at the end of the wars
>serbs got too cocky and actually believed their propaganda they're masters of something

lol this is so true, they got some crazy myths about those wars, serbs in the early 90s thought they were invincible and could win against the entire world. But as the great powers giveth the great powers taketh.

Slavs are the mexicans of Europe.

Because they will fuck you up, just because they can.