Nietzsche on Islam

>Christianity destroyed for us the whole harvest of ancient civilization, and later it also destroyed for us the whole harvest of Mohammedan civilization. The wonderful culture of the Moors in Spain, which was fundamentally nearer to us and appealed more to our senses and tastes than that of Rome and Greece, was trampled down (—I do not say by what sort of feet—) Why? Because it had to thank noble and manly instincts for its origin—because it said yes to life, even to the rare and refined luxuriousness of Moorish life!… The crusaders later made war on something before which it would have been more fitting for them to have grovelled in the dust—a civilization beside which even that of our nineteenth century seems very poor and very “senile.”—What they wanted, of course, was booty: the orient was rich…. Let us put aside our prejudices! The crusades were a higher form of piracy, nothing more! The German nobility, which is fundamentally a Viking nobility, was in its element there: the church knew only too well how the German nobility was to be won…. The German noble, always the “Swiss guard” of the church, always in the service of every bad instinct of the church—but well paid…. Consider the fact that it is precisely the aid of German swords and German blood and valour that has enabled the church to carry through its war to the death upon everything noble on earth! At this point a host of painful questions suggest themselves. The German nobility stands outside the history of the higher civilization: the reason is obvious…. Christianity, alcohol—the two great means of corruption.

What did he mean by this?

>nothing covered but her eyes
>wearing sunglasses
bravo

Please stop posting

no

what?

I wonder how he feels now.

>Hitler admires Islam and wishes Europe was Muslim

>Nietzsche admires Islam and wishes Europe was Muslim

>Merkel admires Islam and wishes Europe was Muslim

The writing was on the wall but no one listened.

fuck off Constantmeme

I don't think nietzsche was familiar with wahhabism.

a bunch of orientalist nonsense

germans, troughout the 19th and up till the half of the 20th century, were big islamoboos, this was helped by them knowing nothing about islam apart from stories and some translations of kuran

so for many germans islam became this thing they projected all their various true desires into, for nietzche it was that other thing that was so not lame in all the ways christianity is lame and o look they liked colors at some point and beating women too - that must mean they are all about embracing life
for romanticists generaly it was the whole orientalism thing, a different, more 'natural' or more uninhibited way of living, thats literaly how they saw it, but romanticists were a bunch of retard hippyes any way
for some protestants it was the iconoclastic and puritanical aspects that they admired, prussians liked them for their apparent zealous not afraid of anything attitude as well as the simple doctrine of submission, and nazis just outright loved islam for a whole number of reasons, from poligamy to jihad to glorifying warior culture and their entire logic of hegemony and domination written into the ayats, hitler generaly liked how all muslims act as a whole as in the notion of ummah, which while being rather lefty was still traditional enough, plus they were natural allyes against the brits, but any way

granted himler walked around with a copy of baghavat gita and shopenhauer was big on hinduism too, so looks like they realy liked anything that wasnt christianity(even tho theres concrete reasons for a ss member to appreciate and find inspiration in the baghavat gita, it kind of deals with exactly those kinds of 'ethical issues')

and then today, theres merkel

austrians, or hungarians, strangely never shared this affinity, must be cause they actualy had to deal with muslims irl

think it must have something to do with that whole deal

Add Napoleon too senpai.

I fucking hate that picture
The point makes no fucking sense because if the woman on the left put on more clothes nobody would behead her. If the woman on the right shows her ankle she gets turned into a social pariah for being a harlot
Its not even a muslim thing its just people in the west (because only someone in the west would draw this) have absolutely no fucking clue how widespread sexism is in the world and think its only bad here.

Nietzche's understanding of Islam would be limited to history books which stopped with people like based Avveroes.

It is correct to say he did not know about wahhabism or frankly anything about what the state of the middle east way.

It would be like if you only read about India from the before the year 0, than praised it and never realized it's turned into a giant toilet

>barbaric germans

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Germanics are extremely bloodthirsty savage cruel people. Outwardly they're all smiles and politeness but when you get to know them they're vicious like lions or wolves.

Look at all the misery they have caused worldwide. Wars, colonialism, diseases. Being such a small amount of people they have killed so many more people than they have produced. They're also sexual deviants yet don't use sex to create children. They are a nasty race of devils who have no love for anything except their own individual selves. They don't even like other Germanics or their family members. Everything is competition to them. The Germanics biology is one of seeking out imperishable fame to achieve wealth and sexual partners by any means necessary. And Germanics love it! They take tremendous pride in their ability to kill and destroy, they obsess over violence all day everyday. To the Germanic, families tearing themselves apart and living lives filled with harsh competitiveness is the foundation of their deranged brand of normalcy.

And this way of thinking which Germanics claim is normal has been pushed onto the entire world and everyone cannot succeed in capitalist life without adopting the fierce brutality of the Germanic.

When blacks, Asians, South Americans and other native populations say "I hate white people" they should be saying "I hate Germanics"


they're also mechanistic and ideologically shallow. All their philosophy revolves around how the individual needs to comport himself in society, something everyone else can figure out for themselves. They're ALL little Eichmanns.

Anglos are literally A Germanic tribe.

germanics have taken over the world. The Germanic mind is considered the normal healthy mind. Anyone who does not conform to Germanic way of thought is treated as abnormal and in need of correction. Look at all the pain they have caused. Non-Germanics have had to change their culture and society in order to match Germanics level of selfish interest. Those who do not conform are considered irrelevant and worthy of death and colonization.

It is abhorrent that one should force his mindset onto another. Aboriginal Australians do not want to act like "the white man", they have been robbed of their land and way of life just like the countless other peoples whom the Germanics have conquered. When ancient Romans and Greeks invaded lands they would take care of the native populations, building services and roads but they would be mostly left untouched as long as they paid taxes. When Alexander conquered he built schools and library's and the native peoples loved him for it.

We are so ingrained with Germanic perspective that we don't even realize it.

My question is, how did we reach the modern age of colonialism where Germanics have not only taken away from natives their land, but also their souls? It is evil, pure evil.

Germans aren't efficient.
They're autistic.
They are precise and they are detail oriented. These traits can lead to efficiency but they do not necessarily do so.

Precisely machining each screw so they all line up the same way when tightened is not efficient. It shows obsessive attention to detail that while often commendable has no relation whatsoever to efficiency.

I don't know how anyone can look at Nazi tank design and and honestly come away with the impression that Germans are efficient by default. They certainly can be efficient but they can also be bloody minded obsessives that do something the wrong way over and over again simply because that's how it's always been done and doing otherwise offends their sense of "ordnung" aka. Autism.

So can we please drop the whole "much Germans would never do that because much German efficiency" argument. There's nothing efficient about getting pissed and shit on by whores but that's never stopped Germans from being massive perverts.

Aspergers and autism is german genetics

I know I shouldn't comment the cartoon, but we have had groups of women harass other women for not wearing a shawl or some other more covering clothing, in Sweden.
Have we ever had something similar where western women harass and even attack other white women for being to covered?

It is easy to admire a country or civilisation when it is an exotic foreign power.

Reminder

Islam was considered as the epitome of democracy by many thinkers and scholars in the 18th and 19th century. The combination of revolutionary theology, militaristic creed and relatively egalitarian social structure made them regard it as something like a milleniarist movement that is going to wipe the slate clean.

The eternal Aryan.

Islam is a military doctrine disguised as a religion so that makes sense.

More like Catholic saints.

>It is easy to admire a country or civilisation when it is an exotic foreign power.
This, reminds me of the Putinboos on the 4chins.

a misconception this blatant HAS to be bait.

this comment mostly hits it Something to add though was that Britain and France had become allies with the Ottomans in this period and tried to create this "noble savage" image for Muslims so there would be no widespread disagreement. The artists in that period, as with any period, had their views strongly influenced by what the government told them and encouraged them to think, which led to the romanticizing of Islam. Of course this never happened anywhere in the Balkans or anywhere Christians actually had to live under Islamic rule, only by people who had never met a Muslim. The west is currently learning the consequences of that.

Medieval Islamic Empires =! Modern salafist hurka durka jahoodies

>morons that admire culture they don't actually understand.

Nietzsche is right. If you want a faith that's moral, true and has philosophical depth, consider Islam, the world's oldest religion.

Germans deserve Islam.

> Islam, the world's oldest religion.
Muhammad began preaching Islam around 610 AD. This puts Islam at around 1400 years old, making it one of the world's younger religions. Islam is a monotheistic religious tradition that developed in the Middle East in the 7th century C.E.

>Not recognizing bait

Islam is much older than Mohammed. Adam was the first Muslim.

The lady on the left could take off her sunglasses in public without being stoned to death.

Islam considers all other monotheistic religions that have appeared over the years to just be corruptions of Islam. it certainly isn't true but it's a core belief to justify the faith

Orientalism was popular at the time, and I can understand why. That's just it.

The ideology of Nietzsche is in contradiction with orthodox islam. He just liked "eastern" culture, or the idea he had of it, not the religion of the orientals.

I'm pretty sure that anime is technically haram.

Only if it depicts the Prophet (PBUH)

Doesn't the 2nd commandment forbid all depictions of anything on earth? At least that's how a lot of muslims interpret it.

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Are you talking about from the Quran, or the Bible?

it is haram, any drawings or imagery of humans/animals must leave the eyes or have a neck-less figure. im guessing the point is not to imitate god's creation or alter it.

The point is about idolatry.

It's not haram among many Muslims, it depends on which hadiths you subscribe to.