Daily reminder that "Great" Britain gave Hong Kong back to China like a little bitch.
> The Foreign Office proposed a counter-strategy founded upon a distinction between 'sovereignty' and 'administration'. It suggested that Thatcher aim to reach an agreement with China whereby Britain would cede a titular sovereignty over Hong Kong to Peking, in exchange for Peking's formal agreement **to allow British administration to remain in place in Hong Kong beyond 1997.** Thatcher eventually digested the proposal in principle **more easily** than the Foreign Office had feared
> Thatcher later said that Deng told her bluntly that China could easily take Hong Kong by force, stating that "I could walk in and take the whole lot this afternoon"
> Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping tells her that sovereignty is not negotiable and China will take back Hong Kong on its own terms in 1997 no matter whether UK agrees or not.
> Mrs Thatcher falls off steps after talks with Chinese leader on Hong Kong issue
> On the rainy July night in 1997, Thatcher was present for the formal transfer of sovereignty of Hong Kong back to China, an outcome which Thatcher expressed regret over towards the end of her life.
Hong Kong was a rental property and the lease was up.
James Reed
I feel really bad for hong kongians. I've talked to mainland chinese and they feel people from HK "owe" them something. Typical collectivist bullshit. We will see the decadence of HK within our lifetime
Tyler Wright
Hong Kong was leased for 99 years.
It would have been dishonourable to break the agreement.
Luis Ramirez
So? China is a Nuclear power too. Uk, France, US wouldn't do shit
Hunter Myers
We should have given it to Taiwan.
Angel Gutierrez
Typical weak woman trying to do a man's job, donald trump or stalin would have told that chink they would drop a nuclear payload on them and to stop wearing pajmas
Ayden James
My school had lots of Chinese from Hong Kong. They didn't consider themselves Chinese.
Julian Moore
Hong Kong is getting what they deserve by not demanding to stay with us at the time. In 50 years they'll have been absorbed into the enslaved mass that makes up mainland Chinese society.
Owen Allen
I love how everyone is already so familiar with Donald Trump's ability as a head of state despite him never holding the office of so much as a postman Because countries are no different than businesses, right?
Nicholas Gomez
It wasn't agreed to at all. Hong Kong itself was British indefinitely, only the outlying territories were on lease. Britain just handed over its own territory to China like a little bitch.
Jose Garcia
Britain also gave the Suez Canal to Egypt like a little bitch.
No wonder Argentina thought it could just pick up the Falklands, by then Britain was known as a complete beta pushover. I guess Thatcher just snapped at that point.
Colton Richardson
If this is beta behavior then wouldnt this make Russia the biggest cuck on the planet? I cant think of a nation that has given up more landmass.
Alexander Gomez
You mean in 1917? Yes that was an extremely pathetic surrender, but they got it back after, and at least it came after years of war, not just pissing your pants when China looks in your direction.
Angel Flores
Absolutely not. The treaty said HK was to be given back.
Connor Phillips
No im thinkng their whole history. They sold Alaska for similar reason Britain didnt bother to keep Hong Kong. WW1 and the end of the cold war are similar cases I guess. Im not familiar with chinas history but i dont think it has lost as much land as Russia.
Henry Adams
Same as they did with Taiwan right?
Parker Cruz
HK was extremely profitable though while Alaska was literally who: the land. It was decades before they discovered gold and oil in there.
Xavier Ross
Yeah, the collapse of the USSR was the greatest pushover move in history and it's not like they even had to do it. Gorbachev was just too beta.
Adrian Rodriguez
No, it only applied to the outer districts, not the island itself.
Look it up and stop lying.
Blake Barnes
Selling unprofitable empty land, and autonomous regions voting for independence is not at all the same as giving away an extremely wealthy city against its people's own will to a foreign power just because that power threatens you with violence.
Christian Powell
How would defending Hong Kong profit Britain? How much profit it provides is irelevant if the profit lost defending it makes it pointless.
Jordan Cox
China could've shut off the water to HK whenever they wanted and HK would've been on it's knees, the handover was the only way possible
Daniel Hall
That is basically the same thing you idiot, HK simply cannot survive without the outer districts. Do you even realize what HK looks like ?
Elijah Lopez
Just you wait until he runs the US into the ground and sells it for profit multiple times. He'll make America great again.
Eli Ward
>gives profitable bit of land in asia to chinks >STILL refuses to gib clay in Norn Iron
Andrew Morgan
> British Empire: Oh you want us to fuck off? Hahahahah make us you stupid chink.
> Britain a century later: Oh you want us to fuck off and hand you a world class city we built on a platter? Well I guess we better start packing!
Oh how the mighty have fallen...
Thomas Nguyen
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Jaxon White
>Waaaah no one replied to my perfectly memed post >I know, I'll make it even better !
Jack Anderson
The best Ireland can do is to get Americans to fund terrorists to buy weapons from Colonel Gaddafi, China has the economic and military strength to fuck people up.
Besides, the majority of people in Northern Ireland want to stay in Britain and when that changes it will go to Ireland.
Sebastian Harris
So? Majority of Hong Cucks wanted Brits to stay.
Ryder Lewis
False.
Hong Kong wanted to be independent. Singapore style. Or at least linked with the cunts in Taiwank.
Isaac Bailey
Yeah but you know what you can't make changes to? Reality.
Jaxson Kelly
Anti British shitposting is so pathetic
Nicholas Kelly
> Although Hong Kong Island and Kowloon had been ceded to the United Kingdom in perpetuity, the control on the New Territories was a 99-year lease. The finite nature of the 99-year lease did not hinder Hong Kong's development as the New Territories were combined as a part of Hong Kong.
> instead of talking about modern HK history I am going to tell everyone how butthurt I am!
You do realise if you don't like a thread you can just ignore it right?
Nicholas Green
>obvious bait thread started in bad faith
>its about the history bro
Adrian Cook
You are literally like a Jew who goes into a holocaust thread just to complain about how "anti-semitic" the discussion is.
Connor Allen
and the majority of Ireland wanted Ireland to leave Britain
Caleb Wright
After a collected assortment of faggots got people killed on purpose during war time to change public opinion.
David Campbell
And like many people already stated in this thread, HK simply can not survive without its outer territories.
That is where basically all its food and water comes from.
Owen Roberts
Ireland voted for home rule before WW1, bro.
Cooper Harris
you think just because people didn't support an armed uprising to achieve independence that they didn't want independence at all? they wanted it democratically but it was obvious post-1916 that Home Rule wouldn't achieve them much
Brayden Sullivan
They aren't Chinese. They're what Chinese people should be.
Juan Long
>getting involved in a land war in asia
Joshua Gomez
>Le land war in Asia epik maymay XD
Aiden Thomas
The last time Western fought in China, the summer palace got burned to ash
Mason Turner
You think you can force a nationality onto someone just like the British did to you, you clearly don't care about what people actually want.
Justin Morris
Actually the last time the West fought against China they got pushed out of North Korea by a bunch of Chinese equipped with nerf guns.
Ayden Wilson
Are you seriously saying that the UK would beat China in an all-out war?
World opinion was against them, and so was the legality of their original treaty. The time had passed.
Gavin Turner
>America's navy is as weak as the UK's
Nicholas Ramirez
>they feel people from HK "owe" them something.
Sounds like you're bullshitting
It's about 50/50.
The ones I know say they are Hong Kongers first and Chinese second.
Blake Jones
Oh and you think HK island will function without the outlying territories?
The Chinese would have shut off the tap and HK would have crashed.
Matthew Wright
False
Hipster Hong Cucks want the Brits back because "muh democracy", but they forget that HK was not a democracy under British rule either. It was a crown colony.
Jace Gutierrez
Actually, the last time Westerners fought China it was a stalemate, and in Vietnam they lost.
Aaron Scott
>Sounds like you're bullshitting
I wish I was. The new generation of mainland chinese are really entitled and arrogant.
Parker Flores
I was talking of 90's Hong Kong you idjit. Not today's Hong Cucks.
Ryder Reed
>WE B OPPRESSED fuck off, Northern Ireland has the same to be separate from Ireland as Armagh and Tyrone do
Owen Phillips
China is the one that got pushed out of south korea chink
Matthew Myers
We've already beaten China twice in war.
Being outnumbered and outgunned by them in both occasions.
So you keep your whore mouth shut.
Henry Ramirez
>Seriously comparing late-Qing China with Deng's China >Seriously comparing late XIX British empire with 90's British empire.
Wyatt Perry
Is there any other country that spends this much time rewriting history like Britain does?
Brits literally don't even know about this. They were all told that all of Hong Kong was on a 99 year lease to hide how much of a pathetically shameful surrender this was.