MUH LEGIONS VARUS

judaism

The Romans achieved nothing of worth after 146BC. The Punic Wars were the last achievement of Rome that required any resolve or strength. The Empire blobs were a colonization, by Late Rome there were barely any Romans living in the "Roman" Empire ("LOOK AT ME, I iz ROman now"). The WRE was a joke and the East very soon became a bad joke. All of the hype comes from the Pope tricking barbarians into saying "We iz Roman Empires because the Pope says so", and so preserving the church- later to, by Innocent III, establish an effective European theocracy.

*tips Spengler*

>be general during the Republic, conquering some barbarian tribe
>get gold, glory, everyone loves you, become consul, stamp your feet all day, become proconsul, kill more barbarians, retire to sunny Spain

>be general during the Empire
>kill barbarians
>get exiled/disgraced/murdered for being a better general than the Emperor

Your meme was dead in 1700 Gibbon.

>within a few decades the republic cultivated marius, sulla and gaius julius
>within hundreds of years the empire didn't cultivate one general on that level.
Empirefags disgust me

uh.marcus Agrippa,. Aurelian, Trajan, Constantine, and the shitton of Illyrian generals that carried the empire?

So basically, emperor's and a few unnoticeable generals you are touting because they just did their fucking job of beating a small raiding warband?

None of them are half the geneal marius was. And marius wasn't half the general caesar was

Id love to see what would Marius, Sylla or Cesar against the motherfucking Huns.
Dont mind me, theyre all superb but in Late Antiquity there were also very good generals or on the same level that those three, but couldnt survive long enough.
Dont forget Aetius or Stillicho for example.

the Praetorian Guard
not even joking

Aurelian reconqured the Gaulic Empire and Palmyran Empire fighting battles against superior or equal forces.

Saying he wasn't a good general just shows that you don't know late Roman history.

>who is motherfucking Belisarius

...

Caesar was planning a war against the Parthians. And you know smelly horse archer niggers are all the same.

>Sulla's marching on rome with 6 legions
>muh gladiators will defend the city

Military genius right there.

*Vare

t. Latin pro

>o no, i lost 10% of muh army
Did Augustus overreact?

oh yes, the elusive ablative case

>7 time consul
>most based kraut remover in history
Sullafag pls

>ablative

Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses

He was a bitch. Did the senate quit after Cannae?

quid de me dixisti, pathice?

Agreed

Not only did they not give up after Cannae, they didn't give up after a bunch of other horrible losses and defeats
Say what you will about the senate, they were men who wouldn't quit until they won or they died.

>facies mea cum dux Iaponicus fori audacias plebis sinit

aut futue aut pugnemus

t. Divus Augustus

>futue

Tuam matrem praefero, ape (a probus esse)

How can MARIUS BE SO FUCKING BASED

equidem praefero sororem tuam (ceterum puto eam magnam esse meretricem), sed in hac vita omnia habere non possumus.

Well I mean he did create the greatest killing machine the world has ever known

Cesar would feast in Attila skull since he had balls of marble

Why were the Romans the ulrimate genocidal cunts? They comitted 9 genocides during their entire reign.

To list them:
Carthaginian genocide
Samnite genocide
Greek genocide
Gallic genocide
Belgae genocide
Jewish genocide
Dacian genocide
Latin genocide
Armenian genocide

What gives? The last one even happened a hundred years ago! So we can't give the exuse of the moral standards being different back then.

(you)

>not letting those gallic women and children past his encirclement
>letting them starve and die in the middle of no man's land
>genocided villages that dared oppose him

Fuck this guy was brutal.

>Carthaginian genocide
Carthaginians are Phoenicians, they wiped out the city of Carthage and enslaved most of the survivors after the third Punic War, but they didn't genocide them or other Phoenician colonies in North Africa or Hispania and Iberia.
>Samnite genocide
No such thing.
>Greek genocide
No such thing.
>Jewish genocide
No such thing.
>Dacian genocide
No such thing.
>Latin genocide
No such thing.
>Armenian genocide
No such thing.

>unnoticeable

He just named the best Emperors in Roman history. Please refrain from shitposting.

For every great man the Republic produced, the Empire did as well. The problem is that Empire also produced far more shitheads who ruined everything.

What's wrong with genocide? It's literally the most effective way of dealing with your problems.

The weak should fear the stong.

Survival of the fitess

Too bad they didnt get all the jews

Well the Roman Army was starving too, he couldnt feed the enemy as well.

>Jewish genocide
>No such thing
>Bar Kokhba
ISHYGDDT

>forgetting the entire tribes of Gauls, Germani and Britannai being removed
>forgetting how the holy land and Egypt were depopulated after the last Jewish revolt
>forgetting the series of attempted empire-wide Christian purges
>forgetting how the Gothic families were wholly massacred after Stillcho was beheaded

Wasteland or no, peace is peace. Pretty sure Rome invented genocide.

Come on dude

Revolt ! = genocide

1 million Gauls being exterminated isn't wiping out the entire collective population. Also Christians aren't a race either and the pogroms against Goths are massively over exaggerated. I'm not buying it.

There were no empire wide christian purges, this is 4th century church propaganda.

>Armenian genocide
>implying Turks are modern day Romans

Fucking triggered me mate

overall it's exagerrate but there was a serious persecution across the whole empire (except for Constantine's section) in the late 3rd century

Well if you lool at the context under Diocletion, they seriously had it coming.

You can go atempting to destroy a Nation with such deep and rooted tradition as Rome and not get backlash.

Especially when you do crazy shit like interupting their worship Westboro style.

You know absolutely nothing about Imperial Rome.
Victory in the last Punic war was the start of Rome as the greatest civilisation on earth.

Your pathetic opinions are worthy of no further comment.

Vae Victis!!

>Late Empire

>Lorica Segmenta

>Carrying Polybian era spears

Wew lad

Nothing personel, romans

When I describe "genocide" I speak tribally. So these Gauls were cool, but THOSE Gauls will get raped, killed, their village burnt and the ashes burnt again. You can't tell me the Romans didn't demonstrate punitive actions to those who resist or betray Rome. I.E. Gauls, Germans, Brits and even Greeks. An Emperor actually got so mad he died when the tribes dared to question his wisdom concerning this.

As for religious persecution, you can't tell me that "everyone in the Empire make a sacrifice to Jupiter, or else" isn't an empire-wide persucution of both Jews and Christians. It would definitely escalated to the exaggerated persucution described by early Bishops.

The Romans policy toward Jewish resistance is different from Christian, because Judaism was ancient, even in the 4th century. Christianity was afforded no respect, and was treated harshly.

I'm not sucking any bishops dick, but getting burned alive to appease the pagan gods wasn't unheard of.

Google Dioclentian

I am not a re-enactor, so maxima mea culpa.

The Romans did not enforce Roman religion in the entire empire, that is retarded. They had the most religious freedom of anyone at the time. There was a huge christian church built in Rome at the time of the Diocletian pursecutions.

They did have city wide sacrifices in Rome that you were required to attend as per tradition. But instead Christians would chimpout and disrupt them. The first Bishop Diocletian had burned was because he wouldnt stop interupting roman religion services.

The Jews got their shit pushed in because the Romans let greek settlers build a temple in jerusalem and the jews chimped out and attacked a legion.

The Romans never did anything with out a purpose. It was always cause and effect.

Th

Christianity was probably the first time the Romans ever dealt with a group of people activily attempting to destroy the Patheon

>Empire wide

Tell me about the christians in Britannia, Gaul, Spain, etc..

But they are, or maybe are and should fucking know better

Christians

LITERALLY plebs.

Back when the aristoi kept them in line everything was chill.

>Armenian Genocide by the Ottoscum
>Saying Roman's did it
Either you think the Ottos were the 3rd Rome or you think that the Roman Empire existed 100 years ago

Either way you're autistic

good post