Increasingly, there is a trend of Americans lecturing people in the rest of the world what their history is or should be, based on a certain ideology. In one example, modern Egyptians are told by Americans that they are Semetic Arab invaders who bear little resemblance to the original inhabitants of Ancient Kemet. But there is little these people of the world can do, as their voices are drowned out by the Americans, who are too numerous and culturally dominant.
I am myself a non-white and non-American. Any objections to this observation made by Americans, can be considered a microaggression against a Person of Color. Think carefully before you reply.
I am a non-white. Telling me to go to /pol/ is not only staggeringly tone deaf, but also an attempt to silence the views of a Person of Color.
Jonathan Myers
Fucking terrible post kill yourself
Parker Cook
Why does he even get bogged down in this shit?
Just ignore American retardedness.
Jacob Jones
Block em and ignore em
Andrew Bailey
>Why does he even get bogged down in this shit? he loves to fling shit at people (who fling even bigger turds at him admittedly) he's a very confrontational person i don't mean that in a particularly negative light just that he's the sort of a dev who will join a comment section about his game at least now they are a proper company but you should have seen him in the years prior
Justin James
It's still kind of stupid. He has nothing to gain by arguing with these people.
Asher Bennett
If I didn't enjoy arguing with retards on the internet, I would have left Veeky Forums years ago.
Ayden Howard
That's literally the point of having a Twitter once you reach a certain level of importance.
Gavin Mitchell
lel, I've also seen Americans on twitter complain about how racist and "bizarre" it is that the Assassin's Creed film has a Spanish protagonist that's played by a "white dude".
Luis Taylor
He seems like a cool guy to have a beer with.
What's this game he's making?
Lucas Gomez
well, yes, i was trying to make that point he's just like that i don't think it's wise or reasonable or anything in his position he has everything to lose - well not everything obviously but he's in a position of "power" or "prestige" or whatever you want to call it (as in he's the studio head, and these retards are literal nobodies) and he drops down to the level of the shitflingers that doesn't reflect well on him IMO i mean yeah it gets a laugh from his supporters (or even people like me) but i think it's sort of dangerous in that in this day and age he might cross some fag trigger bullshit that will be felt in the "mainstream" and the fallout will hit him i don't understand him
also incidentally i find it very annoying that if he does have to do this he doesn't do it properly like, don't just trade insults and snide remarks with these people just bash them hard with sources, articles, actual data ('our historian said no' comes close but it could be even more powerful and "sourced" i think) don't play the "omg what could you know about this topic i am czech you are not" card... be smarter than that (IF you absolutely do have to deal with these mongoloids)
Asher James
I gain nothing by trying to entice people on Veeky Forums to make arguments instead of formless assertions, but I keep posting here, just like
Michael Wood
kingdom come: deliverance think "realistic medieval" rpg basically as in no magic, no fetch quests but a simulated, believable medieval environment
not an open world sandbox kind of game, it's a bunch of villages and a monastery and a castle on a couple of square miles you are a blacksmith caught up in the sorta civil war in 1400 bohemia
Joshua Scott
Veeky Forums went from the best board in it's first 2-3 weeks to the absolute worst board.
Austin Reyes
you gain entertainment which is perhaps the same thing vávra gets out of this but unlike him it ends there except he has the potential to hurt his sales/reviews/alienate fanbase/create internet drama
that is what i find so puzzling
Isaiah Jenkins
Kingdom Come Deliverance
Christopher James
Kingdom Come: Deliverance (that feel when googling that guy's name gives nothing but results about how racist and sexist that game and everything medieval in general is).
Though in that exchange I think they're actually talking about Witcher 3.
Nolan Rodriguez
He's not making AAA games here.
Twitter SJWs just aren't going to matter for his bottom line, and he runs his own studio, so there's no boss breathing down his neck to cut it out.
Jack Ramirez
Some Europeans imagine that they have an exclusive claim on European history. The fact of the matter is, since European culture forms the basis of dominant American culture, it is free game for Americans, the cultural descendants of Europe, to claim and define as they please.
Americans can tell Europeans what their history is, and Europeans cannot do anything about this.
Jayden Moore
>Increasingly, there is a trend of Americans lecturing people in the rest of the world what their history is or should be
Source? Statistics?
Joseph Williams
their forests are absolutely spot on however (well actually not historically correct because apparently in the middle ages animals would eat most of the shit to a certain level or something, but spot on in how they look today)
David Evans
He's an indie dev, if anything this generates publicity for him. Just look ITT, people are already asking about his game.
Jordan Jenkins
Honestly I want Americans to be washed clean in the sea of nuclear flames.
Fuck you cunts
t. butthurt yuropoor
Bentley Price
The American system is designed to provide large amounts of free entertainment.
Enjoy it.
Zachary Rogers
>He's not making AAA games here. well maybe not strictly triple A but let's not make KC:D look like some pixel indie bullshit it's still a multimillion dollar kind of deal and unlike the aforementioned pixel bullshit bad sales will hurt a lot
Aaron Fisher
It's like listening to someone talking about D'n'D, talking about Elves and shit.These people don't have a legit identity/perspective, they're a modern social construct with whites and blacks being the main division.
Ryan Adams
It doesn't matter if there's a source
/pol/ seems to think every board wants to talk about how dumb SJWs are instead of the actual board topic
For fuck's sake if I wanted to talk about how dumb SJWs are, then I would go to /pol/ and not here, a fucking history board
Angel Barnes
We all do user, we all do.
Gabriel Gray
>modern Egyptians are told by Americans that they are Semetic Arab invaders
....Isn't this true? The only ones tied to ancient Egypt being the Copts?
Jayden Gomez
The kind of people who have a problem with medieval games not including African-Americans are not the kind of people who would ever buy this.
Ethan Young
I think the kind of people who buy really realistic games about blacksmiths in medieval Bohemia and the kind of people who get into arguments about diversity on twitter don't share a lot of space on the Venn diagram.
And if he's running the company, it's his money. I wouldn't want any dirty hippie dollars if it means I have to give up making people angry.
Isaac Sullivan
like i said he is an indie dev in that he is independent, but the thing still has a budget of several million dollars and is expected to be sold across the platforms and compete on the market if the big reviewers slam this they will certainly feel it - a lot
Jose Robinson
>He's not making AAA games here. The Kickstarter wanted £300,000, it earned £1.1 million. Their investor, satisfied, then gave them another £4million. It's not a budget indie game.
Chase Baker
They're wrong because they're idiots, not because they're burgerinian. I'm danish but that doesn't make me a fucking authority on Danish history. Most people are just wrong on history. And while I think daniel is a cool guy, that's a shit retort
Samuel Cox
>I think the kind of people who buy really realistic games about blacksmiths in medieval Bohemia and the kind of people who get into arguments about diversity on twitter don't share a lot of space on the Venn diagram. >And if he's running the company, it's his money. I wouldn't want any dirty hippie dollars if it means I have to give up making people angry. ah but the people you mention might get traction in reviews and so on and so forth and make no mistake general audience success is something they will be aiming for - like i said the game cost several million dollars to this point, they can't be catering to niche enthusiasts only
also he is not the final boss, he is the head of the studio but most of the funding came from a czech investor after a smaller part of it was brought via kickstarter (and some of vávra & friends starting cash) an investor who will be expecting dem dollarydoos
Thomas Bennett
I once had a conversation with a guy from California. He said that they were more "European" over there, I found it quite laughable. But whereas nationalism is growing in Europe, the trend of ever increasing nu-males does not seem to end in the United States.
Charles Sullivan
I wish I cared more about Bohemia.
I want a game like this set in Western Europe.
Jackson Williams
Americans are not saying Coptic people are true Egyptians, they are saying american blacks were kings and queens of Egypt.
Camden Morales
Americans seem to think "European" means leftarded SJW faggot.
American, basically.
Julian Powell
real life x game comparison
Andrew Ortiz
Modern Egypt is Arab by culture due to the conquest of the muslims. However, due to the weakness of the Byzantine empire the region was captured with a very SMALL force compared to the total population living there. So even most "Arabs" there are still Egyptian by blood.
Landon Turner
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Chase Torres
I love this guy. He's my rolemodel.
Jacob Johnson
Is it true that US schools banned various Mark Twain books because he used the word "nigger" in them?
Camden Brown
also to be perfectly honest i kind of think the game will fail like, it will be a neat game for medieval hobbyists and nerds but it will be a failure as a product, as a video game
Adam Lewis
i do love the local maps though
>tfw no snailpeople or rabbits shooting monks
Asher Adams
The editor of Tom Sawyer actually removed the word "nigger" from the latest edition.
Nathan Parker
Its too neat for average CoD plebian, but on the other hand paradox games are doing ok since they don't have competition.
Levi Hughes
Games that fail with the fratbro audience usually find solace within underground and "artsy" scenes.
David Howard
Go to hell, American
Carter Wilson
Cities and towns with a somewhat believable scale are so immensely rare in vidya. It seems rpg makers always need to make a miniature continent for some reason. But 10 houses in a capital city is just taking me right out of the experience
Owen Young
the_capital_of_skyrim.bmp
Daniel Bailey
They don't give a shit. They are doing this game because they want to make this game.
They are not looking for the AAA dudebro audience.
Believe it or not, games can still be successful even if they don't pull millions in sales.
Sometimes appealing to your niche, and loyal, audience, and doing it right, will still give you profits.
Not everyone aims only to the lowest common denominator by spending 3/4 of their budget in marketing of the latest cinematic experience because videogames shouldn't be too videogamey.
David Lopez
the is just a village the game takes place in bumfuck nowhere literally just half a dozen small settlements and a fort or two
Caleb Bailey
Sorry, did I trigger you?
Jeremiah Flores
they are still looking to recoup about five million dollars (just a minimum bare guess going by the publicly admitted costs so far) to make even however
Evan Reyes
Probably not. "Realistic" medieval games are on high demand atm. The game will do decently well probably.
Henry Parker
This type of games usually have super autistic fanbases who pull in lots of money. Look at Train Simulator and crap like that.
Angel Nelson
>Thanks for reporting me. I am actually founder of the studio, so not sure it will help.
John Allen
Didn't mean to imply that the picture posted wasn't properly scaled. I'm saying it's too rare. It's misguided that games can't have a large amount of content in a small geographical area. Witcher 3 just had some huge cities and their outskirts. Kingdom come will have one small commune iirc, maybe 2? But they'll be almost to scale. Meanwhile the cities of skyrim have 10-20 houses, they'll be spread with 3-5 meters between them, and they'll still be smaller than that town, but it'll be the capital of a continent and the home of the king
Luis Morgan
Americans should be banned from Veeky Forums. Most of them are historically illiterate and understand only meme history fed to them on History Channel and social media, which is what leads to such retardation as We Wuz Kingz
Jaxson Fisher
Vávra is a bit of an edgelord 2bh. If he were born like ten or twenty years later he would be wearing the black button up shirt with flames, you know the one.
Gabriel Powell
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Hudson Baker
Yeah, Bethesda games suffer from this a lot.
Hello, welcome to the extremely racist skyrim one of the richest provinces in Tamriel
Population: 200 people. Oh and nords only make 40% of the population.
Witcher 3 was quite good on this. The game area on the map is not really that big, but for the player it is quite large.
Aaron Butler
If you read this thread it is just anons circlejerking about twitter posts while talking nonsensical shit about Americans. A high level of discourse indeed.
Owen Gutierrez
What is the actual content of the game besides realism?
Joshua Bell
Assassin's Creed makes pretty good maps usually.
I still missed the missing parts of Paris, but the central part was 1:1.
Leo Mitchell
AMERICAN DETECTED
AMERICANS GET OUT REEE
William Sullivan
Bohemia 1403, you play as a blacksmiths son, presumably you'll be involved in restoring order to the throne
Bentley Thomas
No, you just learn to be a blacksmith and you make and sell metal tools and stuff.
Chase Williams
I can't tell if this is a joke or you're talking out your ass. You definitely don't.
Bentley Morales
It's an RPG, I do what I want.
Chase Taylor
yer a blacksmith whose village gets fucked by raiders loyal to the kings brother (who kidnapped the king) you presumably get involved at a very low level in the conflict on the side of the royal loyalists fucking up cuman raiders and shit further acts are supposed to take place in a more urban environment which supports my pet crazy theory that you will be in the service of one of the lords who went to get the king from his brothers prison in vienna (or was it prague? i forgot) (as in real life history)
Too bad, off to /pol/ with you. That or kill yourself.
Alexander Robinson
>If I didn't enjoy arguing with retards on the internet, I would have left Veeky Forums years ago. Veeky Forums is anonymous and most people here have literally nothing to lose
Jaxson Wood
yeah the "evil capitalist west things" that were "prohibited" are a bunch of bullshit obviously things were not easy to get but learning english was not inaccessible, nor were computers prohibited
Asher Smith
>it's impossible to be knowledgeable or even an expert in the history of a country you weren't born in >being born in a country automatically grants you a perfect understanding of that countries history
Aiden Brooks
>However, due to the weakness of the Byzantine empire the region was captured with a very SMALL force compared to the total population living there. So even most "Arabs" there are still Egyptian by blood. It doesn't actually matter how big the force was.
Unless it was the biggest cuckening of known history, where the invaders would literally take 20-50 wives per each of theme, Egypt was one of the most populous regions of the world back in the times and Arabian peninsula was never populous. There simply weren't enough arabs alive to alter the genetic material of Egyptians so much that they turned from black to arab.
Christian Lee
I am a Person of Color. You don't get to tell me what to do, especially if you are white.
Michael Scott
>American trying to dictate
Aiden Wilson
>I am a Person of Color
Isaac Foster
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Daniel Williams
Are you tryin to imply that white is not a color and that all people of European descent can be broadly stroked with the label of 'white' in an attempt to race shame people whose opinions you disagree with?
You better watch those microaggressions bro it's 2016
Robert White
>Boss of his studio >Replying like some Veeky Forums Manchild.
It shouldve ended here and like this
"We're gunning for historical accuracy in our game and having consulted with historians on the issue, we've concluded to not include people of color in this game as it is not accurate with the period." >BUBUT DA MOORS N SHIEEEET, NIGGAS WAS IN DA MDEIVAL AGES CENTRAL EUROPE BEING KINGS ND KNIGHTS NIQQAAAAA "I am sorry to hear of your concerns but the studio has made its decision. If there are any concerns regarding this issue, please contact the *list of historians consulted.*
Like that. Just like that. Or at least the twitter version of that.
Replying like that gets your company accused of a bigot, holy shit such irresponsibility.
Easton Hernandez
SPANIARDS ARE WHITE YOU FUCK
Brandon Wright
it's also funny because andrew sachs is technically jewish and not "white", but at the same time could easily pass for either a spaniard or an englishman.
Adam Mitchell
Is nu-male the new cuck?
Gabriel Davis
they're synonymous.
Julian Baker
>For the purpose of determining what is history, please do not start threads about events taking place less than 25 years ago. Historical discussions should be focused on past events, and not their contemporary consequences. Discussion of modern politics, current events, popular culture, or other non-historical topics should be posted elsewhere. General discussions about international culture should go on /int/. >Veeky Forums is not /pol/, and Global Rule #3 is in effect. Do not try to treat this board as /pol/ with dates. Blatant racism and trolling will not be tolerated, and a high level of discourse is expected.
Dominic Adams
How does one become this cucked? Or are you a shitskin
Daniel Bailey
I come here to talk about the past, not get mad over the modern political atmosphere
Fuck off back to /pol/
Blake Young
my thoughts exactly
Jayden Gomez
Fuck off, shitskin.
But seriously you're right. There is no debate about this anywhere outside of the histrically illiterate and tumblr. /thread
Charles Adams
>Fuck off back to /pol
Is this supposed to dissuade me? Lol no thanks you butthurt faggot. I'll come and go as I please
Kayden Flores
Man I see you post about this all the time. It is not just Americans doing this.