Neanderthals built complex cave rings 175,000 years ago

Neanderthals built complex cave rings 175,000 years ago.

popularmechanics.com/science/a21023/neanderthals-built-mystery-cave-rings-175000-years-ago/

Does this give more weight to the theory that neanderthals were actually more intelligent than homo sapiens?

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thuleanperspective.com/tag/neanderthal/
geneticliteracyproject.org/2015/02/23/why-do-asians-have-twenty-percent-more-neandrathal-dna-than-europeans/
neuroscience.stanford.edu/news/ask-neuroscientist-does-bigger-brain-make-you-smarter
youtube.com/watch?v=o589CAu73UM
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Nice meme - I feel sad that you waste precious time with fake theories to theorize other bullshit.

>Does this give more weight to the theory that neanderthals were actually more intelligent than homo sapiens?

I'm pretty sure homo sapiens (us) can make rings of rocks. So no, I wouldn't say so.

Sorry if it hurts your feelings that homo sapiens may have actually been the inferior species who got lucky.

WE WUZ NEANDERTHALS

It's a scientific consensus that their disappeared because their weapons didn't work for the kind of prey they were facing at the time of their extinction. Smarter or not, they just weren't apt competition for homo sapiens. Great minds in frail bodies didn't have place back them.

Read genesis.

Sad part is you don't realize you were created as a whole and 100% capable of giving answers and justifications for your decisions.
Judgement day is close.

>Great minds in frail bodies didn't have place back them.

We don't know if they had "great minds", but we do know they definitely did NOT have "frail bodies." They would have been far stronger than homo sapiens, although probably less nimble and with lower endurance.

>Read genesis

The bible is a lie, and god doesn't exist. Go back to /pol/ you mindless conservative, this board is about actual history.

>meteor hits earth
>mass extinction event
>cockroaches survive

Does this mean cockroaches were more intelligent than homo sapiens?

Go troll somewhere else.

Exactly. I come to this board to discuss history. Not christian apologetics and neo nazi circlejerks

>Read genesis
The Bible is not a viable source. Go to /pol/ instead.

Typical homo sapien apologetic. You failed to apply your own analogy.

>The cockroaches in this case are homo sapiens
>Neanderthals going extinct doesn't discredit the possibility of them being more intelligent than humans

Are you being serious?

Never heard of homo sapien guilt, but looks like that's a thing now too. What's next, hominid shamming because we're not glorious reptile race or some stupid shit like that. Fuck Veeky Forums and you're homo sapien bashing, I'm going back to watching porn and not dealing with neanderthal lovers.

Stop identifying /pol/ with christfaggotry.

Neanderthals were a bunch of super strong manlets. That hunted ice age mega fauna and "picked berries".

Pre contact Homo Sapien was a super tall skinnny fat warm climate plains hunter.

We were able to have decent threads about religious topics before you started posting here you fucking cunt
I can honestly say that you are the absolute worst poster on this board, and not even Constantine has given Christians such stigma on this board as you
Fuck off

No. But it's not out of the question to think they may have been.

After all, the warmer climate at the end of the ice age introduced new diseases, and the extinction of their main staple megafaunas is what most likely killed them off.

What if they were hopelessly decayed remnants of a particle collider

so we didn't literally ate them to extinction?

Neat.

Fuck off, we didn't get lucky, we killed the neanderthals fair and square. We may not be as smart but we're better at surviving, ergo we are superior.

Excluding selected African populations, everyone has Neanderthal gene in their bloods. They didn't disappear.

Homo sapians were more intelligent which allowed them to work together in greater numbers. In a one on one battle a neanderthaler would probably have won, but when the homo sapiens started to outnumber the neanderthalers in combat they were no match.

Who cares, we ate them.
/thread

>/threading yourself
typical Homo Sapien niggardry

HS females were literally MADE for BIG HAIRY NEANDERTHAL dick

This. When it comes down to it, homo sapiens just fucked Neanderthals into extinction.

>Respecting the meta-rules of a korean ancient pottery classification tips exchange forum subsection

WE
WUZ
CAVE BEARS
N SHIT

This idea that Neanderthals were the smart ones and we're the dumb ones is just an extension of liberal politics

If they were so much smarter they wouldn't have died out.

>because today's discovery pre-dates any known human cave exploration, he says, "it is curious to note that it was not Humans (Homo sapiens) who were the first to explore far into caves, or to draw animals."

HOMO SAPIENS BTFO

GIT GUD SKREBS

LRN2 HUMAN

Neanderthals confirmed for jungle fever and fucking themselves out of existence with smoking hot brown homo sapiens chicks from Africa.

>Does this give more weight to the theory that neanderthals were actually more intelligent than homo sapiens?

Yeah everyone needs to give this a fucking rest already.

They were all human. They all had language and culture and shit. Get the fuck over it already you Homo Sapiens racist superiority fucks.

>This idea that Neanderthals were the smart ones and we're the dumb ones is just an extension of liberal politics

No it isn't. It's a fairly plausible but unprovable hypothesis based on their anatomy. And the ones who push it most are not liberals but white supremacists.

>If they were so much smarter they wouldn't have died out.

Well that's certainly not true.

Of course its true. A creature with human like intelligence wouldn't go down so easily.
Animals go extinct because if they aren't suited to the new situation they either evolve, or die. Humans are not the same, we can think and come up with a plan.

You are severely underestimating how lucky we are (climatologically speaking), if the final Neanderthals (& other late Hominids) made it just another 15-20k years, I think race relations today would be a whole lot different..

>need meat to survive
>no more meat

Ok what's your plan?

Migrate

You've obviously never been to /pol/ if you think we allow Christians to proselytise there.

OP you should have posted the article with different question. Could have had interesting conversation instead it's full of retards fling their shit around

>Migrate

Where? There's no suitable territory for thousands of miles.

Neanderthals built the pyramids.
Discuss.

I don't get why it's controversial that they could've been as smart as us or even smarter.
Efficiency is also very important. They were built as fuck manlets who probably required a huge amount of energy compared to us homo sapiens, and this might have been their Achilles heel when homo sapiens showed up and started competing with them for game. Maybe they just starved. Or, after all, maybe they were killed by a virus brought by the homos, who knows.

We are the niggers that chimped out and burned down the homes of the civilised and killed them all

>Evolutionists desperately clinging to their delusions of evolved superiority.

There's a decent documentary on Netflix called Decoding Neanderthals. They made the world's oldest known synthetic material (a birch pitch used as a glue) that we still do not know how to reproduce in the quantities they did. There's also evidence that they used certain materials as pigments and had rudimentary burial rituals.

What does this even mean faggot?

>Muh "all animals are best suited to their environment"
>Could a human survive at the bottom of the ocean?
>Checkmate Teleologists

>misreading it THIS hard
0/10 b8, apply yourself next time

Fucking evolutionists.

......no

Discussed.

>the theory that neanderthals were actually more intelligent than homo sapiens?
That's not a theory m8. That's a hypothesis, and not a very good one.

I am the Messiah. No discussion needed, just praise me.

Melanesians

>tips fedora
I can see the presumptive anti-science, anti-intellectuals have reared their ugly heads.
Something I find compelling is that most (if they aren't fedora tippers) find any number of crackpot theory acceptable, unless it impedes upon their will to be degenerates.
Of course, that's just my observation, but hey, I'm just another retarded bible thumping conservative.


"The great mythos evolution tells us that we are not to understand it by nature, if it should come to pass that we scientifically verify evolution we in the same stroke philosophically negate it."

He's not as bad as "Hebrew Grammar lesson guy". Although I suppose the Jew equivalent is slightly better insofar as I haven't seen him in a while. But that's probably because he got banned.

Why does the theory of evolution hurt your feelings so? So far, we have no way of knowing if a God exists and the theory of evolution doesn't somehow claim to disprove God.
Nature is a beautiful thing, and in all likelyhood, evolution is it's driving force. No one but nature and the drive of adaptivity can come up with the amazing creatures you can find out there. If you truly believe in a God, open a biology book, and you'll definitely see a hand of God in some of the organisms that live on this Earth.

>all animals are best suited to their environment
that's kinda demonstrably false though

>this board is about actual history.

History is His Story.

Lashing out at unknown Anons.

Yes, you're a great poster. Really contribute quite a bit. I mean, look at that blurry picture you posted. Awesome.

He got BTFO.

You're welcome.

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holy shit

>WE WUZ BETTER THAN HOMO SAPIENS AND SHEIT
>Homosexual and Homo sapiens both have homo in them
>We are all Homo sapiens
>OP is a faggot

OP is a neanderthal and wants to make himself feel better

Individual Neanders were probably smart as fuk, but humans only got as far as we have by eventually living in large colonies which would have been very hard for Neanderthals due to large dietary requirements.

Hebrew grammar lesson guy?

>/pol/
>Christian
We don't like them there either.

African detected

Because its mainly based off the belief that larger brain size = greater intelligence. Dinosaurs had larger brains then most modern animals including humans, but their actual cognitive functions were relatively hardwired and had little ability for anything outside of that.

Bigger brains does not correlate to greater intelligence.

Maybe, but there isn't enough evidence for that yet. Biggest example I can think of their intelligence was the manufacture of synthetic glue for use in making spears in large quantities, as of the time of the article written it was still unclear how they managed it.

Personally I think most ancestors and close relatives of homo sapiens were probably a fair bit more intelligent than they are generally given credit for, so I would be hesitant to call Neanderthals more intelligent just because we have found more evidence of their intelligence

Whatever the case they were out-competed/out-bred and driven to extinction.

Their DNA is present in non-African humans so they were assimilated to some extent, although some of it may have been violent.

Even if it were entirely peaceful, hybrid Neanderthal males appear to have been sterile or have had very low fertility. They were pretty much doomed through peace or war.

but it's not just raw size though, it's about encephalization i.e size relative to body size
and moreover, we're talking about a fairly close species, comparing it to distant mammals with a much different brain structure doesn't make much sense
among humans, but possibly closer relatives, I'm fairly sure brain size is partly correlated with IQ for instance

>Neanderthals were stereotyped as morons for hundreds of years
> now they're seen as the Uber race compared to us so-called lowly humans by white nationalists

>selected

There aren't any pure Sapiens left in Africa, except possibly an uncontacted tribe in the Congo, if they still exist. Even the formerly thought to be pure Yoruba now have a little Neanderthal in then.

As far as mammals, elephants and dolphins have much bigger brains than humans.

For some period of time they were

European historian Varg "stab a Sami in the head" Vikernes' research says white people today are 99,7% neanderthal, but jews don't want white people to know this.

thuleanperspective.com/tag/neanderthal/

Neanderthals don't actually extinct. They evolved into white race we know today. The whole human is from homo sapiens is a bullshit. Different species of Homos evolved into different kind of race. Well, that is my theory anyway.

Why is Varg so stupid?

Your theory is shit.

And why is it shit? The whole human come from one single homo species from Africa is a lot stupider my theory of that different race archetype come from different homo species.

I'm feeling somber. It's a great loss that such a proud and noble people were to disappear forever. The Neanderthals should have been the ones to reap the benefits of this cruel, unjust world. With our disconsolate women weeping we'd see them leave us behind for the stars, forever thankful for them building a civilization we could only wish admire.

Racists are really grasping at straws.

>scientific consensus

genetics says otherwise. all humans are rediculously closely related. plus we know that europeans only have about 6% neaderthal DNA

Except once again, its a fallacy because there's no actual correlation with greater brain size or cranial sizes equating with greater cognitive abilities or functions.

To add to this, East Asians have the most neanderthal DNA out of any race. About 20% more than Caucasians.

geneticliteracyproject.org/2015/02/23/why-do-asians-have-twenty-percent-more-neandrathal-dna-than-europeans/

Actually, larger cranium size in humans correlates positively with higher IQ

neuroscience.stanford.edu/news/ask-neuroscientist-does-bigger-brain-make-you-smarter

Not only that, but cranium size is also unevenly distribruted geographically. Pic related.

Nice false equivalency. Shame it isn't relevant.

Well the evidence points towards that, so yes WE WUZ
Just like the Egyptians however, Niggers weren't.

>99,7%
>,
>997%
>997/100
>99.7/1
I am a Man with 99.7 Neanderthals
This is a pretty accurate description actually
t.britfag

9.97
my god am I an arse

its much less averages about 2%

I'm 4% myself, not sure how to feel. I do have a weirdly large chest like a barrel

What's so great about cave rings?

The neanderthal cave paintings are more impressive

>The relationship between brain size and intelligence, both amongst humans and between different species, has never been particularly well-defined. Humans like to believe that our exceptional cognitive abilities must indicate that we are the kings of the animal kingdom in terms of brain size, or at least that we have the largest brains relative to our body size. As nature would have it, both of these common assumptions are incorrect. Whales and elephants have much bigger brains than humans, and we have about the same brain-to-body mass ratio as mice. Since it would be against human nature to admit defeat, scientists have crafted a third measure of brain size called the encephalization quotient, which is the ratio of actual brain mass relative to the predicted brain mass for an animal’s size (based off the assumption that larger animals require slightly less brain matter relative to their size compared to very small animals).
My point is proven in your own link.

>skinnny fat
Nigger what? Try "some of the most effective endurance hunters to ever live". Ancient Homo sapiens literally chased down their prey until it was too tired to run. It's the same hunting strategy used by dogs, which is why H.Sapiens and dogs become so close, as they had complimentary lifestyles. A Hunter Gatherer at peak physical could chase down a horse, cheetah, or deer, given a large enough of a range, and once they got close enough they used an Atlatl to attack their query from a safe distance. They weren't muscular because they didn't need to be.

Neanderthals hid in underbrush and ambushed their prey with heavy spears. They were stocky manlets with squeaky, high pitched voices who were dependent upon a single biome: primeval black forests. When the climate changed, Neanderthals were stranded without their hunting grounds and were out-competed by the H. sapiens, who had no such trouble adapting to a temperate biome, or any other biome, for that matter.

>manlets
Nigger, you do know if Neanderthals survived they likely would've evolved to attain taller statures. You know what the earliest Homo Sapiens i.e. our ancestors were in terms of height at the same time? Just as short ranging between 5'4 and 5'6 in height, which is about the same as the modern Chinese average height for a male today.
>squeaky high pitched voices
Citation required.

Also Neanderthals had superior vision and could carry meat from a carcass of an animal they killed over 30 miles with no stamina problems, stronger barrel shaped rib-cage, way WAY superior upper body and arm strength too boot.

>Citation required

youtube.com/watch?v=o589CAu73UM

>theory
>no hard evidence
>video "documentary"
Into the trash it goes.

>you do know if Neanderthals survived they likely would've evolved to attain taller statures
Why would they need height in the underbrush of the black forest where instinct taught them to dwell for the entire span of their existence?

>Also Neanderthals had superior vision and could carry meat from a carcass of an animal they killed over 30 miles with no stamina problems, stronger barrel shaped rib-cage, way WAY superior upper body and arm strength too boot.
30 miles was peanuts by the standards of hunter gatherers, who were endurance hunters verses ambush hunters. And all that extra strength didn't mean diddly squat when their biome disappeared.

>Into the trash it goes.
Oh please. Where's your evidence for Neanderthal being baritones? Like everything else about Neaderthals, H.Sapiens were simply more adaptable, more versatile, and capable of working together in far larger groups. The Neanderthals were cucked by H.Sapiens.

If the Neanderthals were so great.

Where are they now?

Check mate