Aryans?

I mean why didn't the nazi's feel proud of their own original ethnicity instead of a foreign race? Why weren't they proud of being germanic instead?

Interesting I thought chariot was found in middle east-egypt first than moved itsway towards asia.

Aryanfapping predated the Nazis. The Indo-Iranians were a convenient excuse to form some Pan-European identity with claims to Russia/Bits of Central Asia.

So in general the term indo - European and indo-iranian both mean the same thing?

To those deluded hacks, yes, but IRL nah.

so are iranians aryans?

are they the true ubermensch?

is that why they want to nuke israel?

They were proud of being Germanic. They just thought Germans and Northern Europeans were the purest Aryans.

They were. Its not a nazi thing. It was a european and western thing until after WW2. Aryan was used to mean undo-european. It never meant blond hair and blue eyes to the nazis, thats totally made up. It didnt mean only germanic people either. To the nazis all indo-europeans except slavs were aryans, including persians and north indians. Aryan didnt even mean white to the nazis since finns and hungarians arent aryan and brown people like indians are. Nazis were not white supremists or white nationalists although they considered finns and hungarians to be equal to aryans. Nazis were german nationalists

They were the inhabitants of the Caucasus from around 4500 BC.

They spread from here across Europe and Persia. In fact, Zoroastrianism was a slightly adapted version of the Aryan pantheon of Gods, in response to all the violence that was going on around 1600 BC. As a response to this violence, Zoroaster simplified the religious tradition of his time into a simple good-evil dichotomy. These events and innovations would start what's now known as the Axial age, in which pretty much all of our religious and philosophical traditions were started

If you take "Aryan" to mean Proto-Indo-European, they were right.

Superior races to nazis included chinese and japanese people

That wording is kind of unclear, what I mean to say is nazis considered chinese and japanese people to be superior races. But slavs they considered inferior so they werent white supremists or white nationalists.

Ironically, Croats are more Aryan than Germans since they're literally Slavicist Iranians.

Nazis were fond of them and didnt consider them inferior like other slavs

So they were caucasians that migrated to europe a long time ago? And somehow people managed to find a way to consider themselves a pure "aryan" race after thousands of years?

Also why weren't slavs considered Aryans?

"Pure aryan" was a euphemism for pure gentile. Although you only had to be pure for 4 generations.

Im not entirely sure why slavs werent cinsidered aryan, it may just be because they were considered too inferior or because of presumed tatar and other non indo european heritage.

qt scandinavians with blonde hair, blue eyes and celestial noses

or some steppe peoples that invaded India during the bronze age collapse

They didn't ride horses. They used (war) chariots

All slavs are Aryan. Some just get along with Germans better.

"Myth of the light pigmented "Nordic looking" Proto Indo-Europeans debunked.
So as it turns out, prehistoric North Pontic Steppe populations buried in Kurgan mounds are overwhelmingly dark pigmented (by modern Eurocentric standards). The populations of this area and time period are the most favored among linguists today to have been the speakers of the Proto Indo-European language (this hypothesis is known as the Kurgan hypothesis). See data below for details."

"The table above represents frequencies found in ancient samples compared to modern Ukrainian ones. The dataset for the ancient sample is a combined pooling of both the Yamnaya culture and the succeeding Catacomb culture from the same area. Note the SNP rs12912832 [OCA2] in the HERC2 gene which predicts blue eyes is present in 65% of modern Ukrainians, but was only present in 16% of the ancient samples. Also note that the ancient samples have much lower frequencies in all three SNPs which predict light pigmentation including SNPs in the TYR gene which are associated with blondism.

SOURCE : Wilde et al., Direct evidence for positive selection of skin, hair, and eye pigmentation in Europeans during the last 5,000 y PNAS, Published online before print on March 10, 2014, DO:I10.1073/pnas.1316513111"

"Another article released a year later basically revealed the same thing, although this study focused the pigmentation of many ancient European populations in comparison to modern ones including pre Neolithic Western Hunter Gatherers and early Neolithic Farmers in Europe. But the study did also include a sample set from the Yamnaya culture which is identified by most linguists as the speakers of the Proto Indo-European language on the eve of their great expansion. Only 11% of the Yamnaya in this sample from the Samar Oblast region carry alleles for light eyes, as they are noticeably darker pigmented in skin and eyes than contemporary Southern Europeans. See data below.

Etymologically Iran literally means (land of) aryans. It was Eranshahr in middle persian(sasanian era), eran being the plural of er (aryan), and still today the -an denotes plural in modern persian/farsi (amongst other terminations). Shahr is obviously related to shah and kingdom or empire are valid translations.The sasanian monarch was the shahan sha eran ud aneran king of kings of iran and non-iran or, literally, king of kings of iranians and non-iranians. The parthian version, less evolved, is literally shahan sha aryan ud anaryan.

The achaemenid persian kings like Darius or Xerxes often end their list of titles with "parsa parsahaya, puça ariya ariya ciça". Basically "persian son of persian, iranian of iranian seed" or "aryan of aryan seed".

In the same fashion, an archaic name for the north of India or even the whole Hindustan (depends on the context and specially the writer) was Aryavarta. Basically it's the same, land of aryans.

Now genetically may or may not be another completely different story, but culturally, linguistically and in identity iranians and indians are the heirs of the aryans. Religiously too in the case of indian hindus (and other religions ultimately derived from hinduism like budhism).

>Now genetically may or may not be another completely different story,
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-Europeans#Genetics

>like budhism
>Rejecting Vedas
>Aryan

Light skin alleles did exist among PIE

eupedia.com/forum/threads/29435-Light-skin-allele-of-SLC24A5-gene-was-spread-by-the-Indo-Europeans-(R1a-R1b)

Stop trying to brownwash them.

They were a bunch of nomads living in southern russia. They domesticated the horse and invented the wheel, and conquered the whole fucking world save for China and Egypt. They were probably phenotypically european, which causes a lot of butthurt.

This is a list of civilizations founded by the indo-europeans :

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-European_migrations#Europe_2
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-European_migrations#Indo-Iranian_migrations

Aryans was used as a term for Indo-Europeans (pic related) for the longest time, until Nazism tainted the term.

Religiously heir of the aryans =/= aryan. Religiously muslims and christians are both heirs of ancient israelites and nobody in the abrahamic family gets along well.

No they learned about it through their invaders

They still use the term referring to Indian languages, henceforth, "Indo-Aryan". It stopped being used because it's incorrect t refer to the whole language family as Aryan.

Aryans = all people of European heritage. But only PURE heritage.

Anglos = made by the devil to destroy the Aryan race

This must be a language map, right?

Because I refuse to believe that Pakis are somehow ethnically related to Nordics.

Aryan was the self designation of the Indo-Iranian speaking peoples

The nazis aped the term for themselves

Yes. Language =/= Genetics. A German is more related to a Finn than he is to a Kurd.

Aryan=Indo-Iranian, not Indo-European. Germans were never Aryan to begin with.

Things like Aryan, Germanic, Persian, etc., are all ethnic terms, not genetic terms. All these ethnicities have a common origin, and all the race mixing in the world won't change that as long as their culture remains the same.

Indo-european is first and foremost a linguistical term.

Out dated, r1a people ahd them, the first indo europeans were r1b though and broen eyed/haired withd arker skin than Southern Europenas:

eupedia.com/forum/threads/31498-Ancient-steppe-dark-light-pigmentation-a-surprising-pattern-unlike-modern-day-clines

- Yamnaya culture - dark hair pigmentation; mixed eyes (light and dark colours); darker skin
- Catacomb culture - predominantly dark pigmentation just like in case of Yamnaya culture
- Xiaohe mummies - light brown, dark brown, chestnut, red and black hair colours
- Andronovo-Sintashta - blond, light brown, dark brown hair; mixed eyes (light & dark); fair to medium skin
- Mongolian Altai - dark brown, brown, dark blond, black hair; eyes mainly brown
- Tagar culture - blond and brown hair; mixed eyes (blue, green, brown); skin fair to medium
- Tashtyk culture (samples from Khakassia) - blond, brown hair; blue and green eyes; skin fair to medium
- Pazyryk culture - blond ("Ukok Plateau Princess"), brown, black ("Amazon of Ak-Alach") hair
- Karasuk culture - mixed eyes (light and dark, that is blue, green and brown)
- Mezocsat culture (in Hungary) - one sample - dark blond hair and brown eyes

The Siberians were the fair headed/eyed ones, central asians, not the Yamnaya.

>Anglos
>Aryan

pick one

Are you drunk? Please make an effort with the spelling.

It shouldn't come as a surprise that they were darker skinned as light skin only developped as a consequence of an agriculture-based food supply. It makes sense that the early indo-europeans would've been swarthier, as they originated from the middle east and migrated north.

But I'm not talking about the early indo-europeans.

Do you think that the Attican Greeks were darker than the Minoans they replaced? Honest question.

Where does this meme come from that Croatians are Iranian people? It's literally retarded

It's literally true, though. Darius the great's real was Dariusevic, but it was latinized by the eternal Roman.

lmgtfy.com/?q=Croats Iranian Origin

Official race power rankings
1. Anglos
POWER GAP WIDER THAN YOUR MOM'S VAGINA
100000000000000. Everything else.
Germanic shits can't compete.

>Im not entirely sure why slavs werent cinsidered aryan
Geopolitics, son.

But aren't Anglos Germanic

Anglos are a mix of celts and germanics, with a dash of viking and french.

>They moved into European territory and overwhelmed the matriarchal people in place.

Sounds like a whole lot of BS.

>large chunks of Finland red

Every time..

''viking'' is not an ethnicity you amerifat if anything they have norse admixture and norse were germanic