What's the most effay political ideology?

Post-apocalyptic reclusive Authoritarian Disctatorship.

Any normal minded conservative/liberal can be pretty effay.

that's true as well. they're both very un-effay. i mean on one side you have fucking redneck faggots who don't believe in climate change, and on the other side you have faggots who can't even make up their own opinion. neo-liberalism is a pushover way of doing politics.

Right-wing Monarchism

In a monarchy there's no right or left wing you fucking twat, take my (you) for even making me respond

thats gay

Being apolitical

Milo isn't alt-right

prob neofascism, look up Martin Saellner

Anything ideology that's strictly to one side of the political spectrum is always going to be un-effay. The most effay political ideology is accepting that you have so little power that it doesn't matter what you support, nothing is going to change.

some sort of fascist race-based socialism, where one person rules unopposed so they can implement policies that help society without obstruction. left wing fascism I guess but for the good of the race. where's my monopoly-breaking, wealth-redistributing, social program implementing, environmental and consumer protection focused leader who wants to save europe and her people?

HUGO BOSS

I sincerely hope this is bait and that you aren't that fucking dense.

As an ideology, communism is really effay, but the typical commies today look like trash

>socialism is compatible with monarchy

>fascism
>socialism
pick one you fucking retard

>who are nazis

>milo isn't alt-right
well....

Nihilism and apathy for the ultimate dead/cold/borderline satanist/effete fits

Fascism if you are more preppy/formal

well they just said they were socialist to please people but fascism is essentially the opposite of socialism.

Democratic socialism, not the bernie or scandivian """socialism""" or the """"""""democratic"""""" forms of socialism that have existed throughout history, but actual democratic socialism. No asshole dictator abusing an idology to mass murder and opress others. Democratic socialism.

Also stop the "IS X EFFAY?????" threads nigger faggot

Nazi's weren't socialist ya goon

anarchism obv

Google "national socialism" you ignorant twat.

Ignoring it all and focusing on compassion for all things

theres an anarchy sign spraypainted on the dog shit bin near my college which i always laugh at when i walk past. i really hope it was ironic but it probably wasn't.

>socialist fascism
And i thought that /b/ was the most autistic place on Veeky Forums ...

I'm pretty middle of the road, if not more left leaning. I've always just considered myself a libertarian, but I can't even fully agree with that. Alt-right is probably the most effay as long as you aren't a full-blown stormfag.

Nationalism is the best quality you could have.

How fascism opposite of socialism?
i see more there in common rather than difference both support big government which socialism will end as, and both serve the nation/citizens from the power the states gets

Whichever one isn't yours

socialism = everyone equal
fascism = a person's depends on their race, which is predetermined

anarcho-capitalism

How can one person be so retarded?

Google the definition of both of those terms and then come back before you post again.

>Alt-right

End this shitty reddit meme.

a genetic goldmine

they should be called fucking fascists, not alt-right.

Wouldn't compassion for all things guide you towards wanting to create a system that maximizes universal satisfaction?

Fascism maximizes power of the state and it's ability to suppress dissent, no regard for people. Socialism is meant to distribute wealth and power more evenly among populous.

National Socialism wasn't for the people at all. The use of the word socialism was -whodda thunk- just a tool used by the Nazi party to further solidify grasp on power, using want for populism in an economically destitute and humiliated Germany. NatSoc is a system that takes the production/wealth created by the people and funnels that into making owners of companies more powerful *for the further advancement of state power* both domestic and international.

National Socialism is like welfare for the state. Instead of distribution of wealth and programs for the main purpose of creating a more equal populous, it strives to maximize state power.

>Communism distributes money to all equally.

>Rawlsian (big boy socialist theorist) or Democratic Socialism seeks to do much the same, except continuing to perpetuate inequality as means of incentive for people to pursue skilled labor jobs.

>NatSoc seeks to distribute created wealth and use it for strengthening of a totalitarian state

they may not be the exact definitions but they are simplified versions of what each ideology stands for, pretty much.

yeah they were by definition, I dont think you understand nazism

No, they aren't.

Fascism's MO is to keep the current state in power at ALL costs. It's hardcore authoritarianism. Stalin was a fascist who believed in communism. Any leader or state can be fascist.

You're conflating Nazism and fascism.

it's a shame that you see so many smart people fall for fascism. it's the same shit happening today as what happened in germany when the nazis came to power. in difficult times, fascism gets popular because people think that being divisive and blaming others is going to be the solution rather than working together.

Fascism is not interchangeable with authoritarianism. It is an economic model, not a political one

NatSoc =/= Marxian Socialism

NatSoc is for the state, that's why it's not called Authoritarian Socialism. It wasn't a totalitarian attempt to instate economic equality, it was a totalitarian attempt to - in essence - nationalize the labor force to strengthen Germany

Most other kinds of socialism strive to aid the people (the proles)

The situation today is nothing like 1918. The current crisis sweeping Europe is actually rather unprecedented, and "working together" is an incredibly vague solution in the midst of such a complex situation

>fascism is bad

stop this meme

i am not saying they are the same but, and that's a huge BUT, by definition socialism is the political theory that advocates the means of production and exchange to be regulated by the community as a whole,
and fascism is an authoritarian system and nationalistic of government and social organization, they are different but not opposite, even thought on it's root fascism is right wing it's just another authoritarian system of government, and by implying socialism which increase the power of government. which can led to authoritarian
plus fascism is now thrown away as a nickname to authoritarian beacuase it's more easy to the ear.

nihilism is the only Veeky Forums ideology

You're on Veeky Forums, do you really expect any different?

Anarcho-Individualism

how can you be this retarded?

thats a fucking retarded ideology and so are you

*teleports 360 degrees behind you
*unzips katana*

>psshhhh...nothin personnel...kiddo

oooh shit yeas I see your point and I totally get where you're coming from.

I will say though that while authoritarianism and socialism can go together, and fascism is authoritarian, fascism is by definition right wing.

So you're totally right, just your wording made it technically wrong and I'm gonna stay bein a dick and point that out

you spooked son

I guess when I say compassion I'm thinking of compassion from a buddhist perspective and so wanting to reduce suffering rather than maximising satisfaction

i would assume that if nobody is suffering, then everyone is pretty goddamn satisfied my guy

buddhism is pretty left wing to be honest.

so is christianity

kek

the new testament is but not the old testament

old testament is jew stuff tho aint it?

it has a lot of killing, mostly ordered by god and for little to no reason.

>left wing fascism
you actually don't need to put "left wing" before it, fascism is already left wing

Fascism is generally right wing idiot.

fascism
ˈfaʃJz(ə)m/Submit
noun
an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
synonyms: authoritarianism, totalitarianism, dictatorship, despotism, autocracy, absolute rule, Nazism, rightism, militarism; More
(in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practices.
"this is yet another example of health fascism in action"

enlightened despotism

>Be me, Nazi Germany
>Send filthy commies to labour camps
>Declare war on the Soviet Union
>Nationalize the means of production, instead of letting the workers control it
>Establish laws to discriminate against inferior races, therefore creating a hierarchy
>Over 70 years later, degenerates on a Malaysian Tetris board define me as socialist

Literally cannot exist

don't forget he mass privatization and banning of independent unions

this

totally accept it, it is the internet

From what media portrays, I'd say a dystopian level authoritarian regime.

you sperg

Traditionalism and Capitalism

the modern gaudy degenerate Jewified world is not effay. traditions are effay.

taking money from other people via the government is not effay. welfare is not effay. accomplishing things on your own is effay.

individualism is just narcissism. society is exclusionary by nature, you have to lose some amount of individualism to be apart of society. being yourself is effay. being weird for the sake of art or irony is tiresome and nobody will like you besides other pretenders.

on the other hand, subscribing to group think is not effay. the smallest and most complex 'group' is the individual. make your own choices and think for yourself. basing your beliefs off of people or ideologies is evil and lazy. basing your beliefs off of research and logic to coming to your own conclusions is effay.

getting caught up in kike-fueled distractions like global warming, abortion, etc are not effay. you're not a good person for believing the government can solve global warming. you're not a good person for being pro-abortion. you're a useful idiot who is so boring that their own life struggles and goals aren't enough - you need moral superiority to feel good about yourself. that's not effay.

freedom and personal choice are effay. group-think is not effay.

I am absolutely loving the fact that the political discourse on Veeky Forums is infinitely more salient and considered than that of /pol/.

>thinking youre free under capitalism.
wew lad

>thinking youre free under capitalism.

I am. I have enough resources to do whatever I please. Other people supply me with what I want in return for my resources.

It's completely voluntary. 100% freedom.

as much as i agree with you (i am not ) we never lived a truly capitalistic state, you do enjoy the fruits of the free market, but there are still big influences from the state to the economy which fucks it up

to be fair most /pol/ users believe the same thing. and /pol/ is generally just edgy racists being racist, not really much political discussion going on there imo.

hahahaha look at all you edgy rightists. into the gulags with you

also capitalism isnt a political ideology

>but there are still big influences from the state to the economy which fucks it up

Yeah, like welfare. $1.1T is taken from some people and given to other people. It's not effay.

Still the closest thing we have to capitalism. The more capital you have the more freedom and choices you have.

Much better than any other system built for losers by losers, where the successful are punished and the unsuccessful claim to be oppressed by the successful.

>also capitalism isnt a political ideology

yes it is.

no, you don't understand and your google definitions are new and don't matter since the real meanings of right and left wing have been tactically obfuscated by modern partisan politics for various reasons too numerous to go into here

the established left right spectrum is very simple and an idiot can understand it easily, but i'll explain it to you anyway

in the simplest terms, the left is about the group, the right is about the individual. real right wing people don't even really believe that there's such a thing as "society". the furthest right ideology would be ultra-libertarian, i.e. anarchism.

leftism is about the group, the collective. making the conditions for group living as good as possible. all true leftist ideology aims to make society work for itself- the body of people is more important than the individual person. collectivist state-oriented authoritarian governments are as left wing as you can get. nationalism and racism and whatever else is unimportant and those things occur everywhere on the spectrum, they aren't limited to left or right. nazism, for example, is very clearly leftist- they nationalized every single industry for a singular effort, held up the "volkesgemeinschaft" as the ideal goal, direct racial unification and so on. left wing in every regard.

don't get conned into thinking right = bad guys, left = good guys. it's all modern electioneering and bullshit. the classical definitions won't actually adjust because buzzfeed or wikipedia or some other 21st century media org is shouting one particular thing at you over and over. right = individual, left = group.

stop being retarded it is

its not.
its a common misconception that it is

And I am absolutely hating the fact that we discuss politics on a board dedicated to fashion.

crossboarders fuck off

>its a common misconception that it is

Maybe for losers like you who can't succeed on their own merits, and needs the government to regulate that you get a portion too.

Property Owning Democracy.

Reasonable levels of socialism while still understanding that inequality is necessary in motivating people to become doctors instead of just collecting garbage.

>Free and equal public education.
An educated populous is a more prosperous one
>A right to means for supporting oneself and one’s family at a minimal level of social acceptability.
Everyone should have a house and food. We'll keep you alive.
>Publicly financed political campaigns.
Money should not be a barrier to ones ability to affect change
>The right to a portion of the society’s wealth
Unemployment is literally unavoidable in a society. Structural unemployment will rise soon by no fault of the laborers

hide this thread then

but you can't deny that some political ideologies ARE less Veeky Forums.

I think that's enough of a case to have just one thread on it.