The fall of the Ottoman Empire was a mistake

If only we had known

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post the correct map at least you double nigger
also daily reminder that this could have prevented so much bloodshed and sadness, but the brits and the french wanted all that oil money and a jewstate

Sheikhdom hips

They kept the Balkan niggers and Arab shits under control. Also no Jew shitstain.

That's more than good enough of a reason for it to exist.

>he wants big, islamic and millitaristic just at the door of Europe
>mfw

militaristic empire*

Tension is good. It keeps culture unified and society ethnically homogeneous, while also keeping Liberals away from power.

Look at how Europe has collapsed in peacetime with the Left takeovers.

>Vienna
>Linz
>Morocco
>Sicily and Malta
>all the lands near Volga

>under turkish control
>ever

I call your map bullshit, roach.

His map is bigger than the actual, but it is more accurate than yours. Your map is from end times of Ottoman Empire.

Was OE one of the niggerest empires to have ever been in europe? Nothing good came of it.

Nothing good came after it either.

Balkans a shit.

kek, every new ottoman empire map i see is bigger than the last

But they are muslim.
The moment they step on their feet, they would backstab you.
If the Ottoman empire was alive and well in 1930s, it could have easily go to Vienna yet again just in couple of years.
Bulgaria and Greece were in crisis and Yugoslavia could have been easily removed away.
USSR wouldn't have been interested in defending Europe,Germany and USA were in times after the big crisis.France would have sided with the turks and Brits just dont give a fuck.

A worthy sacrifice.

Now all of Europe is being destroyed.

>Now all of Europe is being destroyed.
Thanks to who?

Liberals that manifest themselves during peacetime and destroy society from within.

Also, Suleiman died in 1566.

The death of Arab nationalism was a mistake

that's not Austria-Hungary

Fuck Turks.

Constantinople belongs to Greece you ISIS fucks.

the Ottoman Empire was a mistake

Mmmm, what is this bullshit?

The Ottomans never had Sardinia (Nor Sicily as far as I know).

This would be the hope, that had it survived a bit longer it could have reformed islam. In a way it feels like all the secualar regimes that rose up out of its ashes were too progressive, not providing the groundwork that would be needed to change into a true secular state. So instead they all fell back to islamic bullshit.

>door of Europe
Asia begins east of Vienna

Why ottoman tho?
They're not even arab. Just muslim. They'd suck as leaders of Islam.

>They're not even arab. Just muslim.

That's the point, arabs with their retarded desert mindset are the problem.

lmao no they weren't. They were up to their tits in rebellions for almost 100 years before WWI.

The Ottomans use to soft rule, like the British. basically, they imposed little law on their subjects, except for taxation and to unify during war.

When they started to decline (as Empires naturally do), they blamed their system. They started trying to be more French in their ways, who used hard rule. This meant the French imposed on their colonies that those colonies were now France first.

The Ottomans tried this, saying people were no longer their ethnic group first, or their religion first. They threw off all the limiters of Islam (which use to function more as a Libertarian system, where Muslim politicians were simply forbidden from certain actions, which is why many historical politicians in the Muslim world tried to push Islam and Muslims out of the political sphere), but this obviously pissed off a lot of people. They lost the balkans, most of their european colonies, all of North Africa, Egypt successfully formed their own Empire in Africa TWICE before the British and French came in and told them to stop (Look up Muhammad Ali).

The Ottomans deserved to fall because they started sucking.

It was trying to remove Religious influence that caused them to fall and their people to rebel.

Sorry, Abrahamic religions are better than any secular (example: Communism) or nationalistic (example, WWI and WWII) ideals.

>It keeps culture unified and society ethnically homogeneous

lmao this is retarded. Empires are the least homogeneous systems ever. This culture meme needs to die. As cultures always have. They die every 10 years or so.

Europe is more prosperous and peaceful today than it's ever been. WWI and WWII were the Right takeovers. Remember those things?

>Turks are better than arabs

>Ottomans
>Sicily and Sardinia
>this is what turkroaches actually believe

You're free to present a single arab country better than Turkey.

Kuwait
Dubai
Iran
Egypt

There's a reason some of them are shit; They were ruled by Turkey.

Maybe, but how the land was divided afterwards was a mistake that we're paying for to this day. Saudi Arabia and Israel in particular should never have been allowed to exist.

Wot. The map he posted was when the ottomans were in their peak.
The map you posted was before they were annihilated in WWI and had only remained in existence b/c the British and French propped up the Empire to stop Russian and Austrian expansionism in the Balkans.
The Ottoman Empire was known as the sick old man of Europe for quite a long time prior to its dismantling. Just be grateful they weren't more generous to the Greeks Mehmet. Churchill was too busy going after oil for the west to have after WWI to overpower Germany than to actually give a shit about dismabtling it correctly.
But whatever, worship a propped up crumbling Empire that was never a good thing.
Greek Genocide, Armenian Genocide, Christian Slaves, Muh pirates, Muh gay buttsecks even though it's haram

Iranians aren't Arab.

>iran is arabic

None of those countries is better than Turkey in the present.

Well maybe Iran culturally as it always has been.

Also of course.

I missed United Arab Emirates.

Good luck governing half the middle east like a bunch of city states whose economy revolves exclusively around oil, Faisal.

Good luck governing half the middle east like it's yours to genocide, Mehmet.

>Mfw Turks are so insecure they constantly post fake maps of their "empire"