How does one of the world's most expensive stock (Berkshire Hathaway) have so little transparency amongst management and have someone like pic related literally spout out generic investing memes like "buy low and sell high"?
>it's a Ponzi scheme right guys? Nah, brah, more like insider trading, which companies voluntarily engage in because if Buffet invests in them everyone else will too.
Christopher Wright
Kek just imagine the shitfest if it were uncovered that he's running a Ponzi scheme. It would be hilarious.
Jaxon Brooks
It's just a front for the linch pin of the American insurance industry. He buys companies with lots of hard assets(BNSF) so that he can use it as collateral for huge reinsurance policies.
The insurance industry is one of the least regulated and easiest financial industries to get into. There's just one basic rule: have enough assets to cover all possible claims.
Austin Wood
Would it even be a ponzi scheme at this point? It could be a legit corp by now.
Jace Moore
>create a company that holds a bunch of dividend paying stocks >take company public >Get money from IPO to invest in more dividend paying stocks
Don't pay out dividends to share holders of said company
Warren buffett literrally takes other peoples money and invest it in stocks but keeps all the dividends. Thats the secret to wealth, use other peoples money to get rich.
James Bennett
>Warren buffett literrally takes other peoples money and invest it in stocks but keeps all the dividends. Thats the secret to wealth, use other peoples money to get rich.
I don't know if you're just saying that or if you really know something. However, you're exactly correct.
When he buys an entire company, the company's profits that used to be taxed and/or paid out as dividends are now no longer profits but capital used to purchase other companies or grow existing businesses. The profits cease to exist and therefore are no longer lost to taxation.
Berkshire-Hathaway's ownership of insurance companies allows the company to have a huge float, a pool of money that they must eventually pay back (assuming generous actuarial tables) but in the meantime is an interest-free loan. Returns can be juiced by charging greater premiums, delaying payment of claims, or just not paying claims.
Connor Wright
You have no idea how tax laws or accounting work
Ryan Stewart
If you fully own multiple businesses, profits from one business can be used to develop other businesses. That is exactly what BRK did with See's Candies.
For businesses that are siloed, then they will have to pay taxes before their profits can be used by the holding company.
However, if you structure the company in a way that it is just a subsidiary of the main company, the P/L for taxation purposes is done at the holding company level.
Hunter Torres
He's exactly right. What are you arguing
Alexander Clark
Jews?
Easton Murphy
>dumpster kid takes up meme investing with his $100 that he should have spent on video games >ends up getting completely distracted (again) looking up random shit about warren buffett
can we at least make this about reptilians and space cowboys if we're just going to fuck around?
Austin Rodriguez
The only reason it's so expensive is Warren Buffet refuses to split it.
Dominic Myers
everyone once in awhile you can come onto Veeky Forums and run into someone that has some knowledge and knows what they are talking about. This is one of those times.
Luis Gray
Ever since I learned that while exceedingly rich, he refused a $30k kitchen extension for his pregnant daughter I've disliked this cunt.
Jaxson Smith
What the fuck is his Buffet's daughter doing here? Someone escort this tragedy home.
David Cruz
I would kek so hard.
Jack Walker
How does one need to set up two corporations to be able to take advantage of this?
Jaxson Lewis
holding owns stock of bought. Bought disperses dividends to holding
holding does not disperse dividends. Holds instead. not taxed b/c gonna buy new "inventory" with it.
repeat w/ multiple boughts its fucking elegant and bretty gud.
Damn, that's genius, but only if you find something to "invest" dividends in; how does that work? Does BRK just using dividends to purchase new holdings every year? Is that what's going on?
Ryder Young
He refuses to split it to keep people like Veeky Forums from investing in his company
Bentley Rivera
He doesn't believe in inheritance. All his money is going to charity when he dies
Evan Edwards
that's gotta be the biggest kick in the dick for his kids
Justin Watson
By the B shares
If you had enough money you can arbitrage the A shares and B shares by shorting B shares, then buying a shares and converting to b, then giving back those b shares to the broker. This is assuming A shares/convertible rate is lower than the price of b shares.
Cooper Wright
>the P/L for taxation purposes is done at the holding company level. Uh, like, no.
Owen Collins
Alchemy!
Chase Robinson
all for what though? he doesnt indulge in anything except coca cola. lives in a plain house, no yacht, no fancy cars, he does own a jet but thats only because its convenient for him flying. Why have so much wealth and not have any fun?